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You could be in denial...but before you think “OMG, there’s a possibility I’m in denial”. There’s also a strong possibility you have OCD. Get yourself under the fear. Target what it is you fear, specifically. Once you know that, you can work on ERP for this specifically. I’m scared that I’m letting my parents down by being anything other than straight. Despite telling them numerous times and them telling me they’re not bothered. I’m trying to work on that.
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That I am Gay and lied to ex girlfriend. But my therapist has said people with PoCD are not pedophiles so if I like them thoughts how can it be OCd and to be told I am not a pedophile. So you could say the same response to that what if I did like the PoCD thoughts
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You’d only have lied, if you knew the answer to the question. If my maths teacher asked me what 1+1 is and I thought the answer was 3, but it could possibly be 2 and I answered “3”, would that mean I lied to them? No, because from what I thought, the answer was 3. Just because what you told someone wasn’t correct, doesn’t mean you lied to them! The real reason isn’t you’re scared of lying to her, you’re scared of her thinking you knew the answer and kept it from her. That’s not the same thing. POCD I haven’t experienced but the principal is the same.
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I am Leeds fan
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Ahh perfect. So this should make you understand more what I’m saying. What if, I said to you: one day you’ll start having thoughts you should be a Man Utd fan. You’ll then start watching their games and thinking “wow what a team”, maybe even “damn, I wish I’d been a Utd fan and not a Leeds fan”. Then it hits you “I could be a United fan and not known! This whole time I was pretending to be a Leeds fans when actually Utd were my team”, I guarantee you wouldn’t give it two seconds of your time. You’d probably answer the thought with “F U Utd!” Or something like that. Now you don’t need to know 100% you’re not a United fan, because you don’t fear it, if that were the case. I.e being a Utd fan would be perecieved by you as less consequential that being gay or a pedophile, so youre not going to ruminate over it, because there’s no perceived danger there. You’ll probably laugh reading that, but it’s the exact same principle here. It’s the fear response that’s making you think you need a 100% answer you don’t. And I can almost guarantee all the symptoms you’re having are caused/exaggerated by your anxiety and rumiunation!
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@Anonymous When you start to practice not fearing the possibility the thoughts *might* be true...you’ll start to notice you don’t need to know 100%! Consequently, you won’t ruminate on the thoughts and I bet the ED and other symptoms will pass.
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So are you saying I could act on my PoCD thoughts then??
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Read my message above mate!
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But I have been diagnosed with OCD and told I am not and people with OCD are not in denial?? So with my POCD could I be in denial. I have been diagnosed with ocd by over 10 therapists and told this means I am not??
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So why are you saying I could be in denial when my therapist have told me this is just OCD and I am not? Are you saying people with OCD could be in denial
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I am so confused by your comment as my therapist said this isn’t denial and people with ocd are not in denial
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You’re being to literal. There’s a possibility I could go deaf tomorrow, there’s also a possibility I won’t. The likelyhood is, you’re not. But no one can tell you the answer to that question, you have to accept you won’t know the answer 100%, ever. As I won’t either. What do you truly fear?
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So why would you say that and my therapist has also said I ain’t gay or bi this is just OCD. I fear I am liking the thoughts and get no dislike from the thoughts of doing it.
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I have never said you are or aren’t, you’re presuming that because people with OCD presume the worst. You need to stop trying to cling onto reassurance (diagnosis) and try to accept every possibility. Every single HOCD thinks like that. So what if you did like the thoughts, what is the fear of that? (I’m not saying you do btw. I’m being hypothetical).
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*sufferer
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I really don’t understand what your mean by this could you elaborate. So why are therapists telling me PoCD means I am not a pedophile and I am not Gay then? Are you saying the therapist could be wrong??
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I’m not saying they’re wrong or right, that’s the point. They’re right in the fact you have OCD (more than likely). But you have to accept the worst case scenario COULD be true. A OCD specialist will never tell you “you’re not gay” or they shouldn’t, as that’s reassurance. That’s not saying you are gay, it’s just not saying you’re straight either. Not answering that question doesn’t mean the worst case scenario is true.
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@Anonymous You have to not run away from the fear - avoidance/reassurance-seeking is the reason you’re so latched in this thought.
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@Anonymous So why are my therapist telling me it means I am not that then? And that no one with PoCD and HOCd, harm realised they are killer, gay, pedophile
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But all the therapists, books, audios I have read have said this means it’s not true? I even contacted ocd therapists who have said this? So why are also people on here saying it’s not true also
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Read what your original point was. You were basically asking if ED means you don’t have HOCD or your fears are true. I’m saying, it doesn’t have to mean anything at all! Someone who is gay, might be able to get an erection when he’s with a woman for a few seconds - does that mean he’s straight? No, it doesn’t. Someone who’s happily married, with 3 children, can’t get an erection with his wife, despite never having any gay thoughts in the past - does that mean he’s gay? No. In both points, the ED or lack of it, doesn’t have to mean anything about their sexuality whatsoever, it could do, but it probably doesn’t.
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There’s many reasons ED can happen. Sexuality is one of about 10,000. This is what irrational beliefs are.
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So answer me this then why are my therapist saying I have ocd and I am not Gay then?? Over 10 have said this to me?? Are they wrong?
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Then you’re with the wrong therapist, simple as that. A therapist who knows how to treat OCD should never tell you that you’re not what you fear/you won’t act on your fear because no one knows that for 100%. You’re looking for 100% answers, no one can give you this. Forget this for a moment? Do you watch football/soccer? If so, who do you support?
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Hey everyone I’ve been doing good lately. I have an ocd therapist and I’m working on myself. Haven’t been doing as many compulsions or checks The last couple days I feel like I lost physical attraction to my wife and my mind says it’s because I’m gay. At this point I’ve been going back and forth on this for years so I’m more accepting but it still freaks me out. Then I noticed a coworker who is define as an attractive guy and thought about what it be like to be gay with him. It didn’t seem horrible but it seemed off somehow. Fast forward I tried gay porn…..again. At first like always it did nothing but I kept like making mental accommodations and trying to physically put myself in the situation. Then all the sudden I ejaculated. Sorry if too graphic. It’s happened before like that but I don’t get why. I feel horrible after it happens too. Anyway I tried straight porn to balance it out and it took forever. Maybe I just need to accept I am gay or not totally straight. I notice attractive guys and girls but I dream about my wife/girls, feel more comfortable thinking about a heterosexual relationship and can’t like get aroused to guys outside of porn. Can anyone relate? What does this mean? I might be seeking reassurance but need help
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