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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 2y
Can Depression worsen OCD and vice versa?
Just as the title asks. Feels like the only "joy" I feel comes from my intrusive thoughts, which is nonsense.
Just as the title asks. Feels like the only "joy" I feel comes from my intrusive thoughts, which is nonsense.
Yes, mental illnesses play off one another. So does stress, so that’s why decreasing stress is important too.
Easier said than done, unfortunately. Just feels like I'm always anxious over the slightest hint of a trigger, which only increases stress.
@Anonymous Everything is “easier said than done” in a sense but it needs to be said so you know what/what not to do to feel and get better.
I feel like that is happening to me now, my depression and anxiety make my OCD flare up so much
I think it’s a mixture of anxiety and depression symptoms. The literal second I had my first obsessive thought, every bit of joy/happiness/excitement/drive for life/libido left me. Instantly. My theme uses that loss of feelings to prove the theme as true. And I’m off to the races. I’m my opinion, not enough is made of how the symptoms of extreme anxiety and depression influence OCD. And how we start to use these symptoms as ‘proof’. It’s horrible.
I feel like something like that has happened to me. Like I don't even know who I am or what I like anymore. From there, OCD fills in the blanks. I hate it.
@Anonymous Yep exactly the same mate. I think it’s a case of we have been doing this for so long, letting fear and anxiety fill the blanks for so long, that it blurs our idea of self. From what I’ve read with regards to recovery stories. They all have similar things: 1) they say ERP is the key. 2) they say it’s incredibly hard and have set backs 3) once they realise they make progress, their normal self returns slowly. It’s a compulsion for me thinking this way, but it makes me feel better knowing.
@gp I'm trying to refine how I perform ERP, so it's definitely a process. I only try to perform it once a day at a set time to prevent it from becoming a compulsion for reassurance. Again, it's a process.
Yes because I have major depression disorder due to how long I’ve fought my ocd thoughts . They feed one another and it’s screwed up but it’s true . Anxiety and depression go hand in hand and when ocd comes in they all throw a party
At least I know I'm not alone in this. Any tips on how to deal with it?
@Anonymous What are your main struggles?
@KMOR Whenever I see a child or child-like character in a video game/movie/etc, I get anxious because I feel like I am "attracted" to them, especially if they have a design/trait that I like or have a "mature" design to them. That would be the biggest one I'm trying to tackle right now.
@Anonymous So you have pedophilia ocd ?
@KMOR Yeah, that and what I believe to be "Pure" OCD, as I am constantly trying to argue away intrusive thoughts or otherwise hoping they become "acceptable". There are others, but that's the big one for me right now.
@Anonymous I know so many mamas that struggle with this. Are you a parent at all? The best way into this exposure is sort of realizing our brains take a minute to realize what we’re looking at whether it be in real life or virtual
@KMOR I'm actually a male, and although I don't have any kids of my own, I do have three nieces and a nephew which my intrusive thoughts like targeting (especially my oldest niece). My triggers mostly come from video games (namely Zelda and Pokémon), which I play a lot on my free time, so triggers are constant. That's the part that I'm confused about, since shouldn't seeing triggers more often make me accustomed to them, not more sensitive to them?
@Anonymous Depends ! So genuinely your therapist will start therapy off by showing you homework of triggers then get heavier triggers towards the end as you improve . You don’t dive into a pool of water instantly until you know you can at least stand in it first without drowning
@KMOR Well, I mostly talk about what's bothering me at the time while working out ways to refine my therapy. Thing is I don't try to actively look for images of kids (too creepy), especially since they come up naturally as is whether it be video games, TV, or movies. However, I feel like I may try to avoid or simply ignore these characters as much as possible, which probably makes it worse when I do see them. But at the same time, I don't want to keep looking at them and letting my OCD run rampant; that feels like something highly unethical and immoral.
@Anonymous That’s understandable so do you work with a therapist now?
@KMOR Yes I am. When I started over a year ago, I was meeting with her once a week. Now it's once a month. I want to try and handle this on my own. But now it feels like every time I see/hear of a child or child-like character my mind races and I become super conscious about my body. And if I react in a way that I deem "inappropriate" or "immoral", I linger in it to try and get a better answer.
So, yesterday while I was laying in bed, I was relaxing when suddenly I had an intrusive thought about someone, but the thing is that it brought me a sense of enjoyment or calmness for a few seconds before it went away. Once it did, it was only until hours later when I realized what had happened and I began to freak out because I'm reading everywhere that when someone experiences this type of thing, the anxiety happens shortly after the enjoyment or "false" enjoyment. Can OCD do this?
Does anyone else find that their compulsions actually make their OCD/obsession worse? I don’t mean in the obvious way, like that it strengthens the OCD cycle, I mean in the way that when I perform my compulsions, they make my anxiety so much worse in the moment. My main compulsions are ruminating, arguing with my thoughts, and memory reviewing, but they all just end up giving me more intrusive thoughts/questions, making my anxiety more intense, and making me think my intrusive thoughts are real. I’ve always read that you perform compulsions because they bring you relief, and I suppose for me, they more make me feel like I’m working towards “solving the issue” or “answering my question”, so then is that my version of “relief”? In reality, it just makes my anxiety worse because the more I ruminate/memory review, the more jumbled together and foggy my thoughts/memories become, which in turn makes me think that if I ruminate/memory review just a little more, I’ll be able to “push through that fog” and find my answer, which then also causes me anxiety because my brain feels foggy and hence makes completing my compulsions/figuring out my obsession impossible (which I guess is good because I’m not supposed to complete my compulsions). All of this is making me believe that I don’t have OCD and that my intrusive thoughts are true and that’s why I can’t shake them and that’s why I feel the need to figure them out and why I feel so foggy… Or is this just meta OCD playing it’s devious tricks on me? Has anyone else experienced this or is this not OCD and I should be concerned that my obsession is true?
I dont know what to do anymore. I think Ive had the 'pure O' version of OCD for more than ten years. I feel like so much of my life has been wasted from this disease. For the longest time I just tried to ignore the intrusive thoughts, and push them off as anxiety, and basically dissociated for years of my life. Feels like Ive just been on autopilot and a shell of myself for nearly 15 years. Its actually hard to even imagine of all the experiences, emotions, connections with others, and personal growth that Ive missed out on- if I do, I think it would be too much to handle. I think Ive even forgot and dont even know at this point what it is to live a normal life and experience positive emotions. Now that I sought treatment for it specifically, it feels like it's gotten worse. Like by acknowledging that part of myself, suddenly added focus just makes it more real and in the forefront now. I wonder if I am actually going insane. Will not go into details for reassurance but the thoughts just rip my soul out. Its so difficult as well because I will get random 'clarity moments' throughout the day where I feel like Ive solved something, then get completely derailed by another OCD thought stream and forget everything. It feels like Im just on a merry-go-round of hell, not going anywhere thinking I am at times.
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