At one time I was kind of good at ignoring the intrusive thoughts when I recognized the OCD patterns in them but later on as I was getting deeper in the spiritual community I am not able to do that. I am confronted with things like that if you believe it/if you put too much energy into that, the thoughts can come true. Any insights how to deal with this?
I don't know as I am thinking about it more, the way of thinking maybe haven't changed from the past. It's maybe just really only emotionally filled fear. That was making me feel like it's different from the younger times. Thank you for making me think about it. Have a nice day.:)
@Dan8421 I’m glad you’re feeling better. You have a nice day too!
Not sure that I understand what these thoughts are. I suffer from Scrupulosity, as well, but my thoughts are an attack on my faith and happen probably, at least partially, as a result of fear of loss of salvation. Let's face it, with OCD, anxiety/fear always seem to play a role in addition to genetics coupled with environmental factors. I don't see all that much on this NOCD app regarding Scrupulosity.
I used to be stuck in a spiritual community that told me things like that, and it was awful. I felt like every thought I had was drawing me farther away from God and that my intrusive thoughts made me a worse person. Those people are wrong that tell you that if you believe or put energy into thoughts they will come true. You’re sick— OCD is a physical sickness of the brain and should be treated no differently than a broken leg—and most religions teach that sickness and suffering is a time to draw closer to God and chance to grow. So contrary to what those people say your intrusive thoughts are a spiritual opportunity for growth and not a thing that will come true and harm you or others. Keep doing ERP and following your therapist. It may take a while to find a spiritual community that understand, but if there is a good God (and I believe there is), then there exists a good spiritual community for you that will understand OCD. I might be able to help more if you tell me what faith or religion you belong to because I’ve studied Christianity and mental health a little bit. Also sorry for the rambling.
Hey Gabrielle, thanks for the reply. I am more spiritually based than that I would follow certain religion. By the spiritual community I meant rather esoteric kind of teachings, not a particular group but more like anything that's on youtube. So the things like manifesting, law of attraction etc. Magical thinking is a big problem of mine and while some teachings help me on my spiritual pathway, some things just turn against me. And the problem is that I kind of believe that by putting lot of energy into some thought it can come true. And that is bad when it's concerning OCD.
Okay, I see what you mean, Dan. That would be a struggle. What you mean by putting “energy” into a thought? Does that just mean thinking about it or something else?
Can anyone relate to this?: I wanted to fix my OCD (aggressive and sexual) by turning to spirituality and spiritual teachings (A Course in Miracles). Now the OCD uses the spiritual content to torture me with existential thoughts and worries all day, for example: „the world is an illusion“ or „you’re just dreaming this — you have to ‚wake up‘“. Problem is that these ocd thoughts are backed up by the spiritual literature. I don’t know what to believe in anymore and if I try to figure that out, I’m back in the ocd cycle again.
For those of you who also believe/have believed in law of attraction, how do you go about it with ocd? I don’t want to put so much weight on my thoughts because that’s what got me in this mess, but I also believe I create my own reality. It feels like a catch 22. Would love some thoughts on it ❤️🩹 Hope everyone has a decent day!
so you know how the more you have an intrusive thought, the more likely it is to show up in your dreams? well coming from someone who is atheist/agnostic and is skeptical on some holistic/spiritual takes on things, i am having a difficult time wondering why my intrusive thoughts are showing up in my dreams the way they do. once i wake up, whether it’s right afterwards or later in the day, i’ll remember the part of my dream that is totally fueled by an intrusive thought. unfortunately it’s not pleasant and very upsetting. so, how do any of you deal with this? i get worried and wonder if it has something to do with my subconscious trying to tell me something/having a spiritual meaning or a higher power trying to tell me something. these are super common ocd subtypes too so i know it’s that. i just struggle sometimes with the rumination.
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