- Date posted
- 19d
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 18d
Hey there… So, first off, welcome to recovery! First rule of OCD is that it is a mirror opposite of your true inner self and value system. If you’re devoutly religious it will persecute you with thoughts of blasphemy, if you love your family, it will make you think you don’t. If you love your wife, it will make you think the opposite. That’s what ALL of this is… Why you may ask? Who knows, that’s not important. Know this, the only way out is IN. You must practice leaning into this and running to it. Trying to pray away or repent from OCD is like trying put out a fire with gasoline. In immunotherapy, doctors actually treat disease with other disease. Essentially, using the human bodies own immune system to cure things like cancer with the common cold or other similar afflictions. It’s the same with mental health, it’s the fight or running away from the thoughts, sensations and urges that keeps the cycle in play. Run to it and face it, OCD is nothing. Practice for just 5 minutes leaning into the thoughts, lean into them..and say stuff like “Yeah, you’re a big scary thought, ooooh look at you” picture the thought as a child running up to you in a Halloween monster costume trying to scare you..Oooh, aren’t you a big scary thought”! It takes practice and you’re going to feel like crap for awhile but this is where the recovery lives. Regardless, you’re in a good place where people will be there for you. Good luck…
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 18d
@TheGirlWhoReadsTooMuch You said “Fight” which is basically another word for CONTROL. You cannot fight yourself. You can’t control your nervous system, you can’t tell it to just “shut off”. That’s like telling your eyes to stop seeing, or telling your lungs to stop breathing, or telling your heart to stop beating, or your ears to stop hearing. You can’t control any of it. The only thing you do control is your reaction and your physical behavior; how you move through life. Feel the fear and do it anyway! That basically means to become indifferent, shrug your shoulders like “who cares”. Practice not giving a shit, ignore it, lean into it, run towards it. This is just your tired and exhausted and depleted nervous system sensitized and burning off stress chemicals, using your own fear to do just that. It’s supposed to feel scary, these are fear chemicals doing what they’ve done for tens of thousands of years to us humans. The only way out is in. You got this.
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 18d
Hey, I can really relate to your experience of religious guilt. I know it's very scary when you try to break way from it. I want you to know that you absolutely CAN leave Christianity if you want to. You said you had religion forced onto you- does that mean you were raised in it, or something else? I was raised in it, but I no longer believe. It was a confusing process for me, and it took years, but I did it. Sure, I feel scared about going to hell sometimes, but I've learned to coexist with my discomfort. In my experience, it's better to distance yourself from religious doctrines and stop beating yourself up over them. Holding those beliefs and worries about crossing a higher power is tiring. That's just my perspective. You can keep believing if you wish to, but go forward with the understanding that you won't be perfect, and you should resist the urge to obsess over it. And as far as the OCD goes, you're right, it tends to butt in a lot. It's really a feed back loop. You fear something, so you worry about it, but then you start ruminating or thought checking which just increases the fear. The only way to break out of it is to not engage. Give neutral responses, sit with the discomfort, and don't give it what it wants
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 18d
@TheGirlWhoReadsTooMuch I'm sorry to hear about how rough things have been for you. I can't give you a definitive roadmap since these are complicated and deeply personal things, but I'll try to help you by walking you through my story. You might relate to it in some ways. It sounds like your belief in religion stems from fear of punishment, and that's a very damaging thing, trust me. Personally, I held onto my belief for so long because I was afraid of what would happen to me if I let go, but that didn't change the fact that nothing could change my past, and I wasn't making progress on myself no matter how hard I prayed or went to church. I had to contend with feelings and observations about my life being in conflict with what I was taught. I also had to trust myself when it came to realizing that the "god" I had in my mind was my own thoughts, and that asking it for help, or answers was futile. It felt good in a way, but it also felt like a loss because I had been using it as a coping mechanism to give me hope. But when I think about it honestly, I also recognize that I tore myself down a lot by viewing my life in religious terms. For instance, I would make myself sound really helpless and pathetic while praying for forgiveness, and I would imagine a disdainful but dutiful, perfect god trying to fix me. What that did was pull me into a cycle, where I would keep doing things that made me feel bad, then I would hate on myself, and after, I would soothe the pain by imagining myself "fixed." Similar to you, that's where a lot of my fears came from, and it's also where my mental compulsions came from. I wouldn't have had so much trouble with OCD if it weren't for these experiences. It kept me in its cycle by convincing me that leaving it was defeat or even doom while also offering me a chance to be redeemed. The thing is, I was never broken, and in fact, the only damage I had was self inflicted because I believed that I was. I don't want you to go through the same cycle. Yes it's difficult and scary to break away from it, but by doing so, you adjust your perspective of yourself and stop letting the cycle rule you. Now, here's what I've learned about OCD that I think you should know. First, understand that it's the result of your nervous system responding to triggers and then activating your brain. This is important for a few reasons. It means that your brain is essentially hijacked by the fear and can't process things normally. It also means that you won't find long term satisfaction by trying to ruminate. It's also the reason why OCD cannot be defeated with logic and reasoning. Second, the only way to quell OCD is to not respond to it. Your nervous system needs to be given space to feel how it feels without you going into problem solving mode. This will help it deal with the sense of urgency and paralysis and over time it will recognize that there is no threat. Third, remember that OCD wants you to do compulsions for its own feeling of security, but that every time you do compulsions, you are reinforcing to it that the fear is real and can only be dealt with through compulsions. Again, this is because it is driven by patterns and not reasoning. Fourth, know that your OCD is going to keep trying to get you to engage. Even if you're making progress, it will try to give you feelings and reasons for why you should care about it again. It thinks it's doing what's best for you, but it's really just stressing itself (you) out for no reason. Lastly, be patient and compassionate toward yourself. This is difficult and draining stuff to go through. You'll doubt yourself, you'll mess up, but progress isn't linear. I truly believe you have what it takes to get through this, and I hope my writing gave you something valuable to use
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