Need information. I have reassured myself for the past year that I wont kill myself since I have Suicide ocd. I did research that Ocd is ego dystonic, and ppl with ocd never commit their worst fear. And ocd attacks what you love, so obviously since i have suicide ocd, i love myself and life. And I do. Dying is my worst fear. Thus the suicide ocd. But since reassurance halts ocd recovery, I am trying to disprove the research i read so my reassurance doesn't work anymore, so I can recover. I say that "Suicide ocd doesn't prevent suicide" for an E.R.P exercise, but my mind keeps reassuring me that it does, because of the research I read. I need helo trying to disprove my reassurance so I can fully recover! Does Pocd prevent pedophelia acts? Does Harm Ocd prevent harm acts? And does Socd prevent homosexual acts?

Hi, I’m sorry I don’t have anything to help you disprove your reassurance. However, I too suffer from Suicidal OCD and was actually hoping to ask you about your experience. I’ve been having quite a rough time recently and been looking for people who suffer from the same theme. So would you mind sharing your experience with me?

I would approach this by leaving OCD out of the focus altogether. "I can't know for sure what I will do in the future" or "there's no way to be certain how or when I'll die" might work just as well

Well, yeah technically a thought has to be ego dystonic to cause OCD otherwise there wouldn't be any anxiety over it. But having anxiety over something and fighting that anxiety is not a guarantee about the truth of anything. People who do have attractions towards the same sex can still get HOCD if they have other reasons why the prospect of it is scary (either the threat of change in self image is causing anxiety, or something like homophobia or fear of others' reactions, black and white ideas about what it would mean for their future/relationship/etc. And people with POCD can be paedophiles, the reasons why the idea of starting to consider the idea that you're a paedophile would cause anxiety are pretty obvious. Those two are both about identity, they're more about who you are than what you might do. And of course they don't create magical guarantees about how you might behave tomorrow- in fact, plenty of people with HOCD for example act on thoughts in order to test how they feel about it, and people with POCD may do the same, or fantasize about children on purpose to test the idea. I've not heard about suicide OCD seeing as anyone who acted on it is probably dead, but certainly people with harm OCD are just as capable of causing harm as anyone else is and they do so as much as anyone else. A woman on this app has harm OCD about her daughter which stressed her so much that one day she shouted at her daughter badly. These things can be self fulfilling prophecies. It's also fairly common to act on them in general. We have a member who kissed a baby they were babysitting on the mouth to try to prove OCD wrong, someone who acted on a harm thought about their sister as soon as they had extra information saying the intrusive idea of what to do wouldn't actually cause that much harm. OCD ideas are like earworms. The only thing which can help out in that regard is to commit to live by your values (part of ACT)- i.e., your relationship is valuable to you so even if tomorrow you are worried that you might be gay, you commit to not end the relationship. Similarly, cheating may be against your values, or molesting children etc. You wake up each day and commit to live by your values. That's all any of us can do in day to day life, OCD or not. But no, as far as I'm aware, having OCD about something doesn't prevent it unless you take the extreme compulsive action of locking yourself in a cupboard for the rest of your life. That's the only way there can be any kind of a guarantee. Someone with hit and run OCD might accidentally or absentmindedly hit someone with a car one day, not know what to do, and end up fleeing the scene. The only thing it makes any sense to do in life is to take *normal, reasonable, appropriate* actions to prevent stuff from happening. Where in doubt, act normal. Yes you could potentially kill yourself one day, just like any of us could. Instead of avoiding triggers and hiding the knives, behave like normal and cut out the reassurance. Those thoughts only feel more important than the idea "what if you're gay?" because you've spent so long responding to them as if they're important. Once you stop, they'll go away. As for your reassurance problem, you say your mind keeps reassuring you, but self reassurance is a compulsion. That means that it's fully within your control not to do. Whilst it may be a well-ingrained habit to reassure yourself or (clearly) debate and research this issue, you're capable of not doing so and instead allowing your thoughts to happen, to cause intense anxiety, and to pass away again without doing any physical or mental compulsions including self reassurance, research or analysis. Please don't respond to this comment with debate or asking for links and resources against your idea that suicide OCD can prevent suicide. Whilst I'm ok with writing this comment to give my perspective and lay some stuff out, I actually don't think this is a particularly appropriate way to approach your OCD. It's good that you recognise that you need to quit reassurance, but the way to do that isn't by attempting to disprove the reassurance, that usually only leads to more rumination and research. Instead you need to quit giving yourself that reassurance in the first place. When this comment and anything else spikes your anxiety, you need to learn to sit with it and accept it's presence in your body until it leaves again, rather than engaging your mind with mulling the information over.

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