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We've had conversations before about how you have a secondary obsession about doing exposures perfectly. We've also talked about errors in your conceptualization of ERP and thus misusing erp and turning it into a compulsion. Can you recall those conversations? What do you remember from them?
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going our* own direction. Sorry for the typo.
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- 4y ago
I have similar confusions. I was watching a webinar where they talked about eating grapes off a bathroom floor. They said it's obviously possible to do those things now in the pandemic. But I was still like "who the hell would do that under normal circumstances??" Haha I guess the idea is it teaches you that if you can do that, you can obviously touch door handles but what's normal? Before my contamination ocd was triggered by covid 19, I was someone who always washed for 20 seconds with soap after the restroom, before meals and after meetings or handshakes. But some people dont even do that! So what's the line?
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obviously impossible**
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- 4y ago
Yeah, it is odd. I hear a lot that the content of your obsessions & compulsions doesn't matter. But, if that's the case, what's the point of extreme like exposures. It's almost like you're digging into content at that point. I see how doing something really uncomfortable could help aid to put you in the middle ground, also though, like how often am I supposed to stay in the higher end of things. Its interesting.
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@canigetawitness That's a good question. I've tried to do one exposure a day. Today I had to go to the hospital and I knew that would be my one (a HUGE one) and it was a lot. I spent much of the day after it exhausted in bed after a full decontamination session and running my brain like a hamster wheel. It got me thinking like...how many exposures should I do in a day and what's too much? Like obviously the hospital was too much (albeit necessary) but what's the sweet spot? How do I know if I'm going too easy on myself and when I should increase? I'm also terrible at knowing what's too much.
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@canigetawitness the point of extreme exposures is to learn you can handle extreme distress. In fact, the point of ALL exposures is to learn to handle distress. The exposure task is just a means to that end
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Yes, I actually made a question mark sign and put it next to my TV. While watching TV I get the intrusive thought that I might be smearing soap all across my TV and not even know it. I try to sit with that, but then I think of extreme exposures/overcorrection & that if I'm not smearing soap across my TV, I'm avoiding doing the therapy I might need to be doing. It's constant thoughts of "For overcorrection, you need to be smearing soap on your TV" "What if I've done that and now smeared soap on my TV?" "I wouldn't like doing that outside of the disorder, it'd make me uncomfortable, so that's OCD and I need to expose and habituate to it or else I'm avoiding." I'm trying to just watch the TV the way I like, the way I want, I am trying. There's so much guilt & fear though that I'm not doing it hard enough or extreme enough. I'll keep trying. I'm sorry I'm reposting. I remember what you helped me with, the thoughts are so convincing as therapy and they intrude my mind pretty much 24/7. I'll keep trying to just sit with it all.
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- 4y ago
:) you did a nice job explaining peices of what we talked at before. It's clear that you're learning and taking action. Can we review the OCD cycle as it applies to the fear that you're not doing therapy correctly?
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@NOCD Advocate - Katie Yes, I think that just sitting with the thought "There might be soap smeared across your TV." isn't enough therapy. It ultimately boils down to that fear here. My mind immediately goes to overcorrection/high exposures & I start feeling like I need to habituate to some other task that is harder than "What if there's soap smeared on the TV?" I think I'm not pushing myself far enough, when really I'm just torturing myself with the rumination. I know that ERP is about experiencing the obsession & then not performing the compulsion. I try to stick with that. I also know therapists have clients go above & beyond this & that's where I'm getting stuck. It's like I know what I need to do BUT what about the above & beyond exposure part? Feels wrong to exclude that, but also I don't think it'd get me anywhere if I did include it, just further into OCD.
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@canigetawitness I think it might be helpful for you to drop habituation as the goal of therapy all together
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- 4y ago
@NOCD Advocate - Katie Maybe so. I'm meeting with a new therapist on Saturday & I'll mention that. It's been surprisingly difficult explaining all of this to a couple past OCD therapists.
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- 25w ago
Happy Tuesday friends. Question for you all: I have recently started ERP therapy (about one month ago) and I feel in a way it has helped. But I also notice that I feel the thoughts I do have are SO intense that I feel like I’m gonna explode and then I’ll cry and get upset but then feel better after having a “freak out”. Does this happen to any of you guys? Also, I told my therapist yesterday some of the exposures we had been doing made me uncomfortable. Like really really uncomfortable. She made me feel a little bad about not doing it and stated this would prolong my progress if I didn’t do it. I’m not sure if I should push my self to do this exposure because she told me to or to stick up for myself and move at my own pace. Thanks everyone.
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- 24w ago
i would like some advice please and i didn't get any responses 😭.. apologies for reposting but just need some thoughts on this 🥲 //// after frustrations with erp not working, i intentionally brought up the intrusive mental images as well as sensations during an exposure in trying to practice desensitizing myself to them. but now im scared that me purposefully bringing on the images and especially the disturbing outward sensations means that i did something bad or acted on my thought since i took the action to purposefully create and bring the disturbing intrusive images and thoughts and feelings. now it feels like not just a fear but reality. and my anxiety levels are just too much. i'm just feeling terrible and would like some thoughts or support
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- 20w ago
I just started working on my first exposure today with my therapist after screening and creating the lists for several weeks now. We did an exposure together and now I feel 100x worse than I did coming in. I won’t go too into detail but it involved looking at a VERY gory image that had to do with my fear of natural disasters. I called my mom and talked with her and she was shocked and wondered how in the hell that would help me! I agree. Did any of y’all feel this way when you first started or is this just not the right kind of therapy for me?
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