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Oof. Sexual Orientation OCD has to be the most confusing to deal with, since lbrh, a lot of actual queer people don’t realize they’re queer for awhile, and struggle with clarifying their identity even afterwards. I can’t speak with authority bc I’ve never suffered from sexual orientation OCD, but I think that in someone who’s in denial about their sexuality, the distress comes from internalized homophobia (“I can’t be gay! Gay people are bad/gross/going to Hell!”) and/or a fear of social reprisal. Whereas in HOCD, the distress comes from the constant questioning of “but what if I’m wrong about who I am??? What if [x occurrence] means that I’m actually a lesbian?” The brain does react to stimuli that it interprets to be sexual, independent of actual conscious pleasure or desire. This is why some people orgasm while being raped, and why sufferers of various sexual OCDs feel the dreaded groinal response. I don’t know what you were thinking or feeling about the women you looked at as a young’un, but it’s perfectly plausible that you were aroused by the sexual nature of the images rather than by the idea of potentially having sex with any of the women, and that isn’t a mark against your heterosexuality. I fantasize about Captain America and the Winter Soldier getting it on, but I have 0 interest in having sex with men. Alternatively, if you DO desire to have sex with women, that doesn’t take away from your desire for men. You could be a Kinsey 2. (We as a society should never have let the Kinsey Scale fall by the wayside: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale) You also seem to know what ideas are giving you distress (“what if I’m actually a lesbian?”) and what that kind of distress is doing to you (making you question and forget your attraction/crushes/relationships). That’s good, because that awareness of what’s going on is your indicator that those thoughts are intrusive, not reflective of your actual desires, and something to practice your ERP on :)
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thank you for such an in depth response!!
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So what do you identified as before ocd?
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i identified as bi but was still confused then took it back and said i was straight. then i had hocd!
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@ll28 I mean I once came out as bi too, but my definition of by at that moment was just admiting some guys are good looking and I basically just came out so the thoughs would shut up, but they didnt, but now my brain uses that as evidence that I must be really bi and would end up with a man, and that's not what I wanted, ever since I was a kid I just wanted to have a wife and kids, and I don't care if it was society or some other reason, I knew I WANTED IT, but now it's like all that desire is gone
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@Nicolas:) Ohh, this is kinda my case as well. I also had a thought at some point that maybe im bisexual, but never came out to anyone, i just had a thought. And i also thought or at least i think, that it was because i could admit that some women are attractive and pretty and that they just look good. Maybe i thought that we as a woman should not find other women pretty? I dont know. I just could admit that they are pretty and i admired them. So i also might mistaken it as being bisexual.
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@Nicolas:) Ohh, this is kinda my case as well. I also had a thought at some point that maybe im bisexual, but never came out to anyone, i just had a thought. And i also thought or at least i think, that it was because i could admit that some women are attractive and pretty and that they just look good. Maybe i thought that we as a woman should not find other women pretty? I dont know. I just could admit that they are pretty and i admired them. So i also might mistaken it as being bisexual.
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@Nicolas:) i feel like this all the time!! it’s so frustrating and i don’t know what to do with it! i came out as bi when i was 12 to my parents, but because they didn’t make a big deal about it i’m always worried i didn’t make the right call.
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@mer_park3r - I mean, I'm not sure if it's the same case, cause I wasn't bi, but OCD it's a bitch for everyone, that's for sure
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MY STORY i’ve grown up in a mostly supportive family and area and we are not homophobic. i grew up knowing what gay people were and i don’t care i grew up not to care. im from nj. my parents are friends with a lesbian couple and we see them once in while. i grew up watching people like joey graceffa whose gay. i also had some school friends that were gay like this kid kevin and this girl elizabeth. i also babysit a little gay boy who likes to dress up as a girl and i always tell him to embrace it and defend him. i wouldn’t care if a friend was gay or anything like i wouldn’t care if my sister was it would just make me rethink things about myself i think. from a young age i liked male attention and had labeled boys as crushes from my mom says. i dont think i liked girls when i was younger and my mom said it was only guys. but idk maybe there was. However i do remeber hairy men when i was younger would gross me out like with black hair and pale. my mom said every since i was a little girl i would tell her i liked boys. as i got older and in middle school i always wanted guys to want me and think i was funny and pretty and i would get awkward around them and nervous around them. but i remeber i didn’t have specific things i found hot or attractive and if someone said something was hot i would just agree and start telling myself it was hot even when i didn’t care i just wanted to be cool. then hocd hit at 13-15 during covid where i was so confused. the first time i had hocd i would like not avoid the thoughts i would do a lot of testing to figure it out for hours and hours in diffrent ways and would feel the same arousal and attraction im feeling now. but i remeber wanting to end up straight and try and rule out gay stuff. but it wasn’t avoidance i didnt have anything against gay people. when the thoughts were still there i still would only act on stuff with boys. when i first had it i remeber crying to my mom for like a month and i was like whatever she’s not helping im gonna figure this out by myself. that’s when i started testing myself for two years. over time it was just there. ofc it was distressing but i don’t remember much. slowly when i went to high school it faded because i loved going to parties and flirting with guys and talking about them and thinking what boy am i gonna kiss tonight it’s gonna be a crazy night. when covid ended and we went back to real like i started going to parties and kissing boys. i started dating one boy and we would talk all the time just not really hangout so we broke up because i wanted more male attention and was kinda bored of the relation shop. i started hu with this one boy and like didn’t really know if i was into it cause i kinda wanted to hoe around and we were kinda like locked in and i didn’t know if i wanted that. so he got the hint i wasn’t into it and stopped talking to me moved on to another girl and got popular in the span of like two weeks. after this i was obsessed with him and got all nervous to see him and i always just wanted to be like can we go back to the way we were. we then started to “hate” eachother and i was so sad all the time he didn’t want me anymore and moved on. we hooked up in and off for two years. then i started hooking up with this one kid cause i always thought he was really funny and chill. we hooked up for a little and then i started to get the ick. i then got with like two other boys at parties. so then we stopped talking and i started talking to the “hate eachother kid” again. we then started dating and he’s my current boyfriend of a little over a year. all these instances made me feel good and i loved the attention and drama. but i struggled with committing with people. i don’t know if this all for validation because i loved when men wanted me it gave me an ego boost and still does even if i didn’t really want them or couldn’t get it to last with a boy. i’m scared it was all for attention and confidence there attention gave me. i liked feeling like a baddie. i liked when the hot funny guys liked me now at 18 it’s back and for six months all i been doing is talking to my mom my sister and my dad about it constantly researching and checking and for those six months i was in a haze of just despair. i was also in erp but it was so bad i couldn’t sit with the distress so i didn’t make much progress and my pyscuatrust told me to stop for a while until we get my brain right with meds. after three weeks no erp and more meds of seretonin and rexulti i finally don’t feel distress or anxious but the feelings of attraction are still there. i thought there supposed to vanish. i’m from nj and from a supportive family and ig supportive environment and friends. i’m 18. and in high school okay so growing up my mo said i only liked guys and would talk about guy crushes and had two celebrity guy crushes. this was all the way up into middle school. then when middle school came around i started liking this guy cause he was funny and popular. then we started dating and everytime he would do something affectionate i would start crying and get so tense and freak out so i broke up with him because he made me so nervous . a year later i still liked him and i got back together with him and the same thing happened so i broke up with him. i think during middle school i liked guys. my mom said i did. i also would get really nervous when any of them would come around to hangout and i wouldn’t talk. but i would also just follow what my friends and sister said. if they said a guy was hot i would just agree. i dont know if i actually found them attractive. i still kinda do this to this day. then covid hit for two years. during those two years i was in my house house and got hocd. so i had hocd sexual intrusive thoughts only and had the groinal really bad. but i would still try and have crushes on guys and think i did. but my hocd also attached itself to one of my pretty friends who was a girl. it made me have a lot of sexual thoughts that i would masturbate to about her. it was about her waist and stuff and it made me loose myself. before hocd me and her were bestfriends and really close and im not sure if i had feelings for her. i mean i was always jealous cause all the guys always wanted her and thought she was pretty. then we got out of covid and i was now in high school. the hocd slowly faded my freshman year. in the begining of freshman year there was this tall brunette guy who i started talking too for months and started dating and i would get all nervous when he came around. i really liked him and enjoyed talking to him. then we broke up cause we never hung out. after that for the next two years i developed what i thought two be two genuine crushes. i would make out with cute guys at parties for the experience and to add cute guys to my kids list. basically hocd was gone but i did this one thing sometimes i did is i would always try to prove i was straight to my mom. like if we were watching tv i would say a guy was hot. i didn’t want her to think i was gay even though she wouldn’t care at all but i would do this because she was the only one i would talk to about my sexual intrusive thoughts and feelings. i was hooking up with my guy best friend but then started to looses interest but he was still obsessed. one day he caught on i wasn’t into it started hanging out with older people and going to there parties and started hooking up with this older girl. i got super jealous and heartbroken cause he didn’t care about me. i don’t know if this heartbreak and crying was because he got popular, he wasn’t giving me attention, we weren’t friends anymore or because i actually liked him. i always had a thing for him after this. i started going to the older people parties and i always wanted to see him there and make him jealous. one and half years later we started talking again and we started dating. once we started dating we started having sex. almost every time or most of the time i finish when he eats me out, we have actual sex or if we’re just humping. we say i love you and stuff. ths first six months we would do everything together like just little shopping trips or whatever. we were always hanging out. then it started to dial down and i started getting annoyed with him sometimes which my mom and sister said was normal. but i still said love you and we would hangout and have sex but idk. i would have thoughts like we aren’t going to last because he’s not smart enough, and sometimes my mom would say this too. but she would also say how much he loved me and how he was such a sweet guy and how he would do anything for me. but idk i just wouldn’t feel it. like i still showed pda and did like him. would a lesbian who didn’t know it yet likely date a guy for a year and a half at 18, have sex like once a week, have orgasmed during penetration, creamed, squirted finished by his hands and mouth then hocd hit again. this time much worse. it was even stronger it felt like with the feelings. the first three months i was in this haze and was crying everyday that i might be gay and how i really really really didn’t want to be. i still have hocd and im in therapy and on medication. i cant tell if my attraction to men is real. my mom says it is and she knows me and im not gay and ive shown genuine excitement about guys. my sister says the same thing. but it feel like ive convinced myself ive been doing it to fit in. the thoughts got bad and ive told my mom my sister my dad and ive told three friends. my mom and sister ive told the details too or the intrusive thoughts and false attraction. i’ve always found women attractive and i find it easier to find them attractive like physically but never felt this way can i conclude im not lesbian? or like is it likely my attraction to men hasn’t been genuine
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