Spooksman
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- 4y
babbiebabbie
- Date posted
- 4y
Hey. I went to a ton of priests over the years and while some were able to offer temporary comfort, my fear always came back, because it wasn’t something that could be solved by spiritual counsel. It’s a physical issue, a malfunction in my brain that is going to continue to cause doubt no matter what I do to try and allay it. The one priest who finally actually helped me was the one who’d suffered from mental illness himself, and told me to go get help and do whatever it took to get well from my illness, that that was what God wanted from me. That was my turning point, and I am still so grateful to Fr M for recognizing that my biggest spiritual problem...wasn’t actually spiritual. Love and best wishes in overcoming this. 💜💜
SpooksmanSpooksman
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- 4y
Thank you for your intrest. I think I need to see a priest, honestly. Get it told first hand, with authority that I won't lose my soul over missed mantras. It's hard to do ERP with your immortal soul on the line is all. How have you learned to cope?
GregJGregJ
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
Do you think you’ll lose your soul right? What are your mantras?
SpooksmanSpooksman
- Date posted
- 4y
@GJ7 I touch all four sides of the computer screen with my mouse, as if I were making the sign of the cross, and repeat to myself that 'all good things come from God, thank you God for all good things' in response to just about everything. Because if I don't, my brain drives me down all sorts of paths where the Devil is the one providing whatever it is I'm looking for and my soul is forfeit. Then I repeat three times, as to hit 4 total repeats (4 being the most even and balanced number as the result of two to the power of 2. Sometimes I'll be repeating myself to 256 (four to the fourth power) to purge myself of the evil intrusive thoughts trying to make me a bad person and steal my soul. It's rough.
GregJGregJ
- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
@Spooksman What I remember is that my soul doesn’t belong to me, it belongs to God! So you can forfeit something that is not yours. Also I remember the Bible verse, “Do not be afraid I am with you” and “I go before you always”. God knows and understands what you are dealing with.
GregJGregJ
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
Hi I’ve had thoughts that I’ve traded my soul. Maybe I can help you?
asdfghjasdfghj
- Date posted
- 4y
So when that priest gives you reassurance, how many more priests do you need to see before you are sure? Truth is you can never be sure. This is classic OCD.
SpooksmanSpooksman
- Date posted
- 4y
Gotta have hope right? The meds can only take you so far if you don't seek your own answers.
asdfghjasdfghj
- Date posted
- 4y
@Spooksman I think seeking answers about our obsessions is pretty much a compulsion. I mean I would very much like to know if my family and friends hate me. For someone without ocd it would be fine to get some reassurance. But for me it would be compulsive. I have to live with not having the answers.
SpooksmanSpooksman
- Date posted
- 4y
@asdfghj Maybe you're right, but seeking religious comfort to help with sickness is time-honored too. Would it hurt?
asdfghjasdfghj
- Date posted
- 4y
@Spooksman Yes it could. Priests are not trained in treating OCD. What you mentioned about is not mantras it is rituals. Compulsive rituals to neutralize your anxiety about being a bad person. Priests dont help with that. OCD specialists and ERP helps.
SpooksmanSpooksman
- Date posted
- 4y
@asdfghj I wasn't trying to imply religion could replace proper therapy, sorry. But in addition?
asdfghjasdfghj
- Date posted
- 4y
@Spooksman Im not saying religion is wrong. But reassurance seeking can hurt. Its like: most people seek reassurance sometimes from their priest, mother or boyfriend right. And that makes me think I should be able to do it too. But to me asking my bf if he loves me is a compulsion even though other normal people does it. So I should refrain as it most likely is compulsive.
asdfghjasdfghj
- Date posted
- 4y
@Spooksman And I didnt mean to imply you said youd replace therapy with a priest. But my point is if you do start compulsions your priest could engage in it. And even encourage it because they dont know OCD.
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