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I think similarity in regards to the line. Except mine is not a vertical concept where morality lies either above or below. Mine is more horizontal, where if something negative falls on my line of time and events, then everything after doesn’t count. It’s textbook Perfectionism OCD. But good news is, it doesn’t have to be this way forever. You can adopt a new way of perceiving things that causes way less stress and agony.
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Hey just checking in hoping you’re doing okay today!
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Doing much better! I am just on edge that I could fall back into it. I am just going to keep going and not ruminating. Thanks for checking in!
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@LucyA5118 Awesome!! Keep it up you’re doing great. I’m right there with you, trying to keep moving forward without rumination
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I have but it’s really hard to do because the obsession/compulsion all relates to me being happy and I haven’t done the list in months because it know it might take me weeks on end to complete without it feeling right so I haven’t even done the compulsion but still think about it every minute of every day and even when I try to hold on to past memories that made me happy ocd finds a way to make reality say nope those were all fake and never happened
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Hey! I’m really sorry that you’re having such a tough time. I relate to a lot of what you shared, huge part of my ocd “requires” me to suffer or punish myself. It’s absolute torture. Have you worked with a therapist doing ERP?
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So I have technically been doing ERP for the last several months and still feel awful. It’s hard to do ERP for my situation because it’s not necessarily a fear but me just wanting to know my life has been real and that I can be happy in other ways outside of doing the list. I haven’t done the list in months because I know it will take at least 24 hours minimum to complete and possibly much longer if it doesn’t “feel right.” So I am not doing the compulsion and still feel totally miserable as if my life was all made up and the only way to be happy is by doing this list to make my life seem real. So awful I feel so hopeless and as much as I don’t want to do the list I don’t know what else to do because I’ve stayed away from doing it since March and still feel this way.
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@LucyA5118 Yeah I totally get that. It’s awful an awful feeling. There’s a good chance that if you do decide to do the list, you’ll probably feel you have to do it again and again and again. That’s awesome that you haven’t been giving into that compulsion! Takes a lot of strength. Maybe you still feel bad because you’re engaging in mental compulsions?? Are you still actively trying to figure out if your life is real? Can you identify what the core fear of all of this could be, like why it’s so bad for you not to know if your life is real or not?
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@annano you’re totally right. I am giving into mental compulsions I spend almost every day trying to think of a way out of this mess. I try not to and try to live my life as normal and find myself thinking about it whenever I feel happy. I convince myself it’s all a trick and because reality put me on this negative scale (I basically somehow formed a line in my head where above means good and below means bad) and it used that idea I made a while ago against me and basically said that once reality started on I was on the negative side of the line. So even when I think I’m happy not a minute later I realize that it’s false reality and that I’m really miserable and it’s made yo
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Man, I soooo relate. It’s absolute torture and I see why you’re finding a way out. There is a way out! You just gotta practice new ways of thinking and ultimately deciding that you’re not gunna live this way anymore. Have you done ERP w a therapist?? Sometimes it’s so much better to at least start treatment with a therapist bc you have accountability and help from a non OCD brain
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Wow I’m so happy you understand haha... I sound crazy talking about all of these invisible barries like the line and rules and other crazy stuff. I’ve been to multiple therapists and stuck with one for a while with no luck. No matter how hard I try the demons cover every scenario and say that it’s just them messing with me and there really isn’t even a therapist there to begin with. Every time I’ve gotten better by thinking a certain way the OCD (even writing this I’m thinking it’s not OCD it’s reality that’s controlling you and the only option) finds a way to use rules or methods I’ve taken to get myself out of past obsession cycles unable to be used again. So for example when I first got into this phase of being in the dungeon with no way to ever be happy other then doing the list I thought “Okay well at least I have past memories that were happy with my family so that’s enough I will just live in this dungeon knowing I at least have that” so then once I accepted that I was able to move on and it faded away. The next time OCD kicked in (the demons what I’m really thinking) I was able to get out by thinking “All that’s left is reality this isn’t reality” and as I thought that and believed that thought there was a negative thing (blob, dot, feeling in my head like with the line just some invisible thing) attached to reality that led me down into the dungeon again except this time (and since this is reality) it said I was just made the moment I thought of reality and all of my life before that wasn’t real therefore, erasing all of the good memories, my family, my life basically as I knew it disappear up until that point I decided on living in reality. So now I have had nothing to turn to because this is it this is reality according to reality. My only “out” is the list. For the last several months I have been dealing with this and even when I think I’m making progress it assures me that I’m still on the negative side of the line and that progress is only the demons tricking me and I’m still in the same spot.
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I must say, you’re super strong for not giving into the one compulsion that you’ve convinced yourself could possibly bring relief from such an awful awful narrative. I really relate to this type of thinking and feeling of being trapped. I think it would be very beneficial for you to try and identify what your core fear is in all of this? Is it that you will never get to be happy on earth? Does it having something to do with never knowing for certain if life is real or not? Something else? Also if you feel comfortable sharing, do you have a heavy religious background?
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The core fear is that I could be happier or that I’m not happy enough. I was raised Catholic & still had some religious ties before
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Maybe you can try to sit with that fear and uncertainty without trying to find an answer for it.
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@annano I think that’s a good idea. I just don’t even know what I believe anymore. I try to convince myself that I do believe this is all irrational and that my life has been real but the doubt seems to overpower that sometimes and makes linear blocks for me to think I don’t believe my life is real
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@LucyA5118 It’s like nope you can’t think it’s real because you thought it wasn’t real x amount of times and that’s the limit and proves you are in this dungeon and your past wasn’t real
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@LucyA5118 Ok so let’s say your biggest fear is that your life is not real then maybe try some ERP with that obsession. Find something that triggers that thought and then expose yourself to it without compulsing.
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I ask about the religious portion only because I know the influence my strict religious upbringing has had on my ocd. It reinforced these linear and rigid perceptions of myself and my reality.
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Let’s do it together!! I hope you have a great day :)
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Yes! You too 😊
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