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I think similarity in regards to the line. Except mine is not a vertical concept where morality lies either above or below. Mine is more horizontal, where if something negative falls on my line of time and events, then everything after doesn’t count. It’s textbook Perfectionism OCD. But good news is, it doesn’t have to be this way forever. You can adopt a new way of perceiving things that causes way less stress and agony.
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Hey just checking in hoping you’re doing okay today!
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Doing much better! I am just on edge that I could fall back into it. I am just going to keep going and not ruminating. Thanks for checking in!
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@LucyA5118 Awesome!! Keep it up you’re doing great. I’m right there with you, trying to keep moving forward without rumination
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I have but it’s really hard to do because the obsession/compulsion all relates to me being happy and I haven’t done the list in months because it know it might take me weeks on end to complete without it feeling right so I haven’t even done the compulsion but still think about it every minute of every day and even when I try to hold on to past memories that made me happy ocd finds a way to make reality say nope those were all fake and never happened
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Hey! I’m really sorry that you’re having such a tough time. I relate to a lot of what you shared, huge part of my ocd “requires” me to suffer or punish myself. It’s absolute torture. Have you worked with a therapist doing ERP?
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So I have technically been doing ERP for the last several months and still feel awful. It’s hard to do ERP for my situation because it’s not necessarily a fear but me just wanting to know my life has been real and that I can be happy in other ways outside of doing the list. I haven’t done the list in months because I know it will take at least 24 hours minimum to complete and possibly much longer if it doesn’t “feel right.” So I am not doing the compulsion and still feel totally miserable as if my life was all made up and the only way to be happy is by doing this list to make my life seem real. So awful I feel so hopeless and as much as I don’t want to do the list I don’t know what else to do because I’ve stayed away from doing it since March and still feel this way.
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@LucyA5118 Yeah I totally get that. It’s awful an awful feeling. There’s a good chance that if you do decide to do the list, you’ll probably feel you have to do it again and again and again. That’s awesome that you haven’t been giving into that compulsion! Takes a lot of strength. Maybe you still feel bad because you’re engaging in mental compulsions?? Are you still actively trying to figure out if your life is real? Can you identify what the core fear of all of this could be, like why it’s so bad for you not to know if your life is real or not?
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@annano you’re totally right. I am giving into mental compulsions I spend almost every day trying to think of a way out of this mess. I try not to and try to live my life as normal and find myself thinking about it whenever I feel happy. I convince myself it’s all a trick and because reality put me on this negative scale (I basically somehow formed a line in my head where above means good and below means bad) and it used that idea I made a while ago against me and basically said that once reality started on I was on the negative side of the line. So even when I think I’m happy not a minute later I realize that it’s false reality and that I’m really miserable and it’s made yo
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Man, I soooo relate. It’s absolute torture and I see why you’re finding a way out. There is a way out! You just gotta practice new ways of thinking and ultimately deciding that you’re not gunna live this way anymore. Have you done ERP w a therapist?? Sometimes it’s so much better to at least start treatment with a therapist bc you have accountability and help from a non OCD brain
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Wow I’m so happy you understand haha... I sound crazy talking about all of these invisible barries like the line and rules and other crazy stuff. I’ve been to multiple therapists and stuck with one for a while with no luck. No matter how hard I try the demons cover every scenario and say that it’s just them messing with me and there really isn’t even a therapist there to begin with. Every time I’ve gotten better by thinking a certain way the OCD (even writing this I’m thinking it’s not OCD it’s reality that’s controlling you and the only option) finds a way to use rules or methods I’ve taken to get myself out of past obsession cycles unable to be used again. So for example when I first got into this phase of being in the dungeon with no way to ever be happy other then doing the list I thought “Okay well at least I have past memories that were happy with my family so that’s enough I will just live in this dungeon knowing I at least have that” so then once I accepted that I was able to move on and it faded away. The next time OCD kicked in (the demons what I’m really thinking) I was able to get out by thinking “All that’s left is reality this isn’t reality” and as I thought that and believed that thought there was a negative thing (blob, dot, feeling in my head like with the line just some invisible thing) attached to reality that led me down into the dungeon again except this time (and since this is reality) it said I was just made the moment I thought of reality and all of my life before that wasn’t real therefore, erasing all of the good memories, my family, my life basically as I knew it disappear up until that point I decided on living in reality. So now I have had nothing to turn to because this is it this is reality according to reality. My only “out” is the list. For the last several months I have been dealing with this and even when I think I’m making progress it assures me that I’m still on the negative side of the line and that progress is only the demons tricking me and I’m still in the same spot.
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I must say, you’re super strong for not giving into the one compulsion that you’ve convinced yourself could possibly bring relief from such an awful awful narrative. I really relate to this type of thinking and feeling of being trapped. I think it would be very beneficial for you to try and identify what your core fear is in all of this? Is it that you will never get to be happy on earth? Does it having something to do with never knowing for certain if life is real or not? Something else? Also if you feel comfortable sharing, do you have a heavy religious background?
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The core fear is that I could be happier or that I’m not happy enough. I was raised Catholic & still had some religious ties before
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Maybe you can try to sit with that fear and uncertainty without trying to find an answer for it.
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@annano I think that’s a good idea. I just don’t even know what I believe anymore. I try to convince myself that I do believe this is all irrational and that my life has been real but the doubt seems to overpower that sometimes and makes linear blocks for me to think I don’t believe my life is real
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@LucyA5118 It’s like nope you can’t think it’s real because you thought it wasn’t real x amount of times and that’s the limit and proves you are in this dungeon and your past wasn’t real
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@LucyA5118 Ok so let’s say your biggest fear is that your life is not real then maybe try some ERP with that obsession. Find something that triggers that thought and then expose yourself to it without compulsing.
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I ask about the religious portion only because I know the influence my strict religious upbringing has had on my ocd. It reinforced these linear and rigid perceptions of myself and my reality.
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Let’s do it together!! I hope you have a great day :)
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Yes! You too 😊
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i’ve unfortunately fallen into the cycle of trying to figure out my thoughts and find answers as to why i feel so distressed. this still pertains to the situation regarding changing my room for those reading who have seen my multiple posts over the last few days. i’ve been so distressed and in so much panic about it. i’m also panicking over my other room looking so different from when i left it. it’s been making me feel crazy because to me there’s no reason for my anxiety to latch so hard onto something that seems so minuscule. i was thinking i was having anxiety over change, but it’s like symptoms of ocd too that’s making it really hard for me to let go. SO i started thinking maybe it was perfectionism ocd? i’ve realized over time that i do compulsions to where things have to feel “just right”, but i also do that with any environment i’m in. like it HAS to feel cozy to me and provide me comfort in order for me to feel at ease. and this change is causing me to panic because there’s something wrong that i can’t find an answer to. maybe the different colored carpet? but it’s also more than that it feels like. however, now it’s spreading into other areas of my house where i’ve always been fine in and possibly to just any area i’m in at all. hence why it’s making me feel crazy because there’s no reason for me to be THIS distressed over that as i’ve never really had this problem before. and when i did it would last maybe an hour to a couple of days at most, but this has been going for over 2 weeks with my really bad anxiety being this week. i’m doing a little better, but it’s still hard when i can feel that panic waiting for me to acknowledge and just engulf me in the ocd cycle. i’m also analyzing basically any feeling i have so i just feel off in general and like i’m going insane. i’ve been so hyper focused on how i feel and that will send me spiraling too. multiple themes then start coming in like existential ocd and fear of solipsism. not to mention my harm and contamination ocd that just adds on when i’m this vulnerable. then i worry if no one is real, then no one feels the way i do. or just in general that what if no one feels the way i do. honestly, i think being out of college and in my house with nothing to do is causing me too much time with my thoughts. which is why i’m so distressed about everything that pops into my brain.
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(Long post warning) Hi, I’ve been struggling with severe OCD for six years now. it started in 2019 with my theme being getting sick/emetophobia. it devastated my life. I almost didn’t graduate high school from it. I remember washing my hands for three hours one day until they were nearly bloody while crying and asking why I could not stop doing it. I remember id have to write and rewrite sentences when I did my English homework and that’s why I nearly failed that class. I remember how I would spend up to thirty minutes to an hour pacing the halls of my apartment while my mom was asleep until I neutralized the thoughts about throwing up and I could finally go to bed. I don’t know when it happened, but my theme switched. Sometimes in late 2020 or early 2021, it switched to POCD. It started with a single thought, and I focused on it and it’s been my theme since then for four years. It has been absolutely destroying me. I feel so disgusted and lost and just tired. My compulsions are severe now. I thought they were bad before, but now they’re ten times worse. I can’t eat, drink, change my clothes, walk, or even do things on my phone normally. I’ve developed so many mental compulsions that it’s so intricate and complicated yet at the same time I’ve done them so much that they’ve become normal. An example I have is if im putting on a shirt and I have a “bad” thought, I have to take it off and put it back on two more times (that’ll make it 3 times I put the shirt back on - odd numbers are my safe number). I have to have a good thought on the third time otherwise I have to take it off and put it on two more times to make it five times I put on that shirt. If not that then I just put on a different shirt because the original is now tainted with my bad thought. I can’t open apps on my phone. It’s with the numbers again. If I open TikTok once while having a bad thought - I have to close it and open it two more times and so on. Sometimes I do it up to 30 times. So I just don’t do things usually. I don’t turn on the TV because I know I’ll redo it. I don’t open a book or grab it off my shelf because I’ll have to repeat the action. I can’t even lay in bed without getting up and redoing it even if im exhausted. I just feel so helpless. I don’t know what to do. I feel disgusting and even now my minds screaming at me that I am dirty and what I think is true. I just wish I was free of this, I wish I could just live my life. I’ve wasted hours and days because of my compulsions. I mask it so well around my friends. I don’t do them in front of anyone or I’ve learned to hide it well. But when im back home alone, it goes haywire. I just want to live again.
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This is gonna be a long one: So a little over a month and a half ago, my OCD started to spiral again. I’ve had ups and downs with it in the past, my main themes often changing. When I was younger it as afraid I’d run away, in middle school it was germs. But as I got older I started having intrusive thoughts of the meaning of life, suicide, and dying, with those fears being my common themes now I’ve gotten a lot better since it started back up, but lately have been panicking because I’ve had intrusive thoughts that my methods of trying to heal are wrong. I’m 21, and for the last 3 years have lacked ambition and haven’t pursued my dreams or things I want to do. I just sleep, work, eat junk food, and play games or watch YouTube on my time off. Things I still love, but after years of living this way, I’ve hit a breaking point and want to start doing more with my life and the people in it Yet, almost EVERY new thing I’ve been trying to do or start, I’ve been having thoughts that they’re wrong or won’t help. Here’s some examples: I’ve started trying to eat a bit healthier, and my brain is telling me it’s not gonna fix me and I’m just avoiding food I like (junk I know makes me tired and sad). Then the moment I indulge in even one unhealthy food item, it tells me I’m failing at taking better care of myself and that junk food just numbs the feelings Same with video games. I tell myself it’s okay to play them as long as it’s not to avoid anything or they don’t take up my life like they have been. The second I do I feel guilty, say it’s cheap dopamine and hindering me from being productive and that I’m numbing my feelings again Same story for everything. Trying to walk and go outside more. Head tells me I’m avoiding being home because it makes me anxious. Then when I stay home it tells me I’m wasting time I could be spending outside or with people I love I’ll wanna spend time with my family or friends because I’ve been a hermit for years and miss spending time with them. When I try to, head tells me I can’t because then I’m avoiding the issues I have and seeking reassurance, and that I need to learn to tolerate this alone. But then when I stay home too long, I get anxious and sad because it does make me happy being around them even if I’m not seeking reassurance, and they genuinely do help me feel better (for example I saw my grandparents last night and talked about my feelings and desire to actually go out and live life, and they helped me understand uncertainty is part of life and I should do things I want anyways and even helped come up with things I may like to try doing. Now my brain tells me it’s bad to get help or open up about my pain) I’ll have racing thoughts in my head and I’ll be arguing with myself over rather it’s better to face them head on, ignore them, or let them run their course. It feels like no matter what I do, I’m feeling guilty and shame for it. As if any attempt at feeling pleasure or doing something that makes me happy is “avoiding the problem”, like I HAVE to focus on my intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and sadness 24/7 otherwise I’m “avoiding/burying it again” I know not to avoid these things and it’s best to confront them (if they’re real problems I have like relationship issues and insecurities and loneliness) and learn to tolerate the anxiety and uncertainty of life and OCD, but my attempts at “helping myself” are quite literally what I feel is currently keeping me so miserable. They’re sucking whatever joy I have in life out, telling me it’s bad, and that I have to feel this way all the time so I can “learn to tolerate it” I’m just so scared of doing all of this wrong, and I think my OCD I knows that and is currently using that to toy with me. I want to be healthier and happier, but then I feel guilt and fear for not being healthy 24/7 and indulging in not healthy things like video games and the occasional junk food. Anybody else ever felt this way?
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