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No it's not gay If its girls... lesbians have sex with dildos all the time and they dont like men... Gay isn't your thing if you feel that way about it. Not that being gay is wrong... I assume its HOCD. Relax mr 😁 ocd is a nightmare
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I suffer with HOCD too, though it's the opposite for me cos I'm gay... terrified I'm str8 and living to everyone. 😩
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lying* not living 🤣
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Question for you cool pop- how old were you when you realized you were gay ?
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Kinda always new.... cam out wen u was 23
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Then ocd started to fuck with my head
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@coolpop Did you have crushes on guys when you were younger ??
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@rachel1219 Yeah I didnt understand what was happening... then I kinda new... but as I said... ocd was there so I was in dought 🙈 still do be at times..... but my intrusive thoughts led me to believe bein gay was the reason. And I thought I having them ment I wasnt gay. Sorry that sounds confusing... but I hope it makes sence 🤣
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@coolpop No problem- but did you have crushes on guys or just intrusive thoughts about guys ? And did you have any crushes on girls ? How old were you when your crushes on guys started?
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@coolpop Like were the crushes on guys - romantic crushes ? Or just intrusive thoughrs
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@rachel1219 Read my last comment 👍
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@coolpop I understand - but I’m just trying to understand if your crushes on guys were romantic and how old were you and if you had any crushes on girls?
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Sorry if I’m too personal
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Kinda triggered me because I thought you were talking to me 😅😅
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My intrusive thoughts were never about being gay... more harm/pocd thoughts.... so it was so frightening for me... cos I always thought, "am I having them cos I'm not gay"
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☝️☝️☝️☝️
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Right but did you have romantic crushes on guys - and ever any crushes on girls ?
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I had crushes on men but as I've said my intrusive thoughts were never about being gay.
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I jus linked them to it.
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Does that help...?
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Got it - so never any crushes on girls ? My daughter has crushes on boys and has had crushes on boys - but recently after watching an inappropriate TikTok video she said she her brain convinces her that she needs to be “gay”. I don’t think you get to choose like that
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No it's not a choice... try to remind her, love comes from the heart not the head... thoughts are just thoughts... I know that's very shitty to say.... but thats how I dealt with my intrusions... OCD is crippling and I hope your daughter is ok. ❤
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@coolpop I def do . She gets intrusive thoughts about being gay - all her life from ages 6-12 she has only had crushes on guys . Never on girls - she actively has a crush on a boy right now - but she denies it - because the ocd won’t let her see it.
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@rachel1219 I believe that with women especially- you can experiment with the same sex - but if your straight your straight . I’m her mom and I grew up with all this outside social media influences and etc and experienced stuff but at the end of the day it can’t change your sexuality... so when she says “I want to be gay “ I laugh and tell her “ya I want to be gay too let’s be gay today “ and then she says “something holds me back from being gay “
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@rachel1219 If it helps she can call ocd out... I used to say "this is ocd" when i got a thought... things calm down when u spend less time ingageing...
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@coolpop Very true- she does need to figure this out herself too- I can only tell her so much - especially a pre teen who thinks she has it “all figured out “
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@rachel1219 It’s hard with her though too - because it’s like all this TikTok garbage - Instagram garbage - with women shaking their boobs and butts and she says she likes watching it and then she is like “it’s because I’m gay “!!!!
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@rachel1219 Like really ?
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@rachel1219 I get what your saying... but the fear she feels... is real to her, so maybe less reassurance and more, I love you no matter how you identify. Show her that it's not an issue. That way your not engaging with her fear and leaving it in the "unknown". Its best that way, for her and you. The more reassuring u are.. the bigger the fear feels to her.
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@rachel1219 Didnt we all at that age 🙈
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I was only ever with one girl... but that's jus part of growing up.. I realised I was gay so I began dating men, and then I was hit hit with ocd... (not gay intrusive thoughts) just linked my themes to the fact i was gay.
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I’m assuming the crush on the girl was at a very young age....
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Yeah I was 15....
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Yes we told her yesterday- me and her father - no one cares what your preferences are - they are your preferences- but we don’t have to decide this right now.... we just have to go about our day
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Well I hope I was somewhat helpful 🙈 it's not easy... things will work out... all u can be, is there for her. ❤
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Yes
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Your right
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Thank you so much
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Also wishing you the best of luck
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Thanks 😁 if you have anymore questions, I'm here.
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Also were you always comfortable when you realized your sexuality or did you have anxiety and troubling accepting
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That's a tough one... when I came out i was fine, cos I had found me... but then when ocd hit, I was left feeling lost and afraid. It made me question everything... I didnt even know pure o OCD was a thing... I never thought I could be "the person I was again" then wen I do A LOT of research.....(I'm talking like 5 years...) when I came to realisation. I was even more lost. I couldn't believe my brain was I'll, unable to work how everyone elses did. I do believe that if you dont ever experience it.. you can never truly know jus how debilitating it really is.
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Can I ask you somthing?
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Yes
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Sure !!!
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Is that the only intrusive thoughts she has?
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OCD tends to cling onto things you value, love.
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Yes she has only intrusive thoughts every single girl she sees - and then she feels anxious whenever girls are around her now. This all happened in the span in the past 4 months after seeing a video of two girls on tiktok doing inappropriate things- now that is all she thinks about - day and night - being gay.... literally all day long...And then says things like “I have a strong urge to be gay “- before this only Male crushes —always wanted to get married to a man — now she said when she thinks of that she sees herself down the line in the future and gets scared because she doesn’t know if she sees a man or a woman
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Like she will see a girl - next question in her head will be like “do I find her attractive?” - do I want to kiss her ? Do I want to be with her ? Do I want to be “gay” with her ? Do I want to be in the position of being “gay?”
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Like all this doesn’t sound odd? I mean sometimes even I get lost ...
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I know it seems odd... but I completely get it. I'm living with it.. but I also understand you dont get..... so dont panic ❤
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@coolpop Does it get better??
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@rachel1219 Yes it dose... I was on medication myself for about 4 years and I'm off it about 7 months... I dont have intrusive thoughts, but I do get anxiety bad.. I'm taking it day by day.
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Trying to help her
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The fact that it's an intrusion, is an indication that she has ocd. If it didnt bother her, shed be whatever sexuality she is. You have your sexuality from birth, it never changes... that why I said to feel from the head not the head... the head ( thoughts ) is jus a bully that she didnt ask for. Her heart knows what she is (her true self).
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heart not head 🙈 sorry
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Yes true - but sometimes she says her head is also convincing her heart she is gay and her urge gets strong to be “gay” so I tell her “ok that’s fine “ and then she says “no I’m settled on that “.
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I'm not religious sp that's not anything but my feeling on things 🙈 incase u thought I was (preaching) 🤣
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It’a like constant thoughrs all day about being gay - and then she makes up same sex scenarios in her head ...
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That's rumination... its a compulsion.
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@coolpop I’m sure you didn’t do anything this ???
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I hope she matures up and understands
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One more thing to note: she says she wants these thoughts to go away ... if they were pleasing she wouldn’t mind them I believe
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A compulsion is somthing we do, to lessen or reduce the anxiety around the thoughts. So for eg. Resoning, solving, butting meaning to.... the thoughts. When in reality it was jus a thought that means nothing, says nothing about you... though we get sucked into rumination because we attach meaning.... 🙈
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Putting*
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The attachment is the ocd part of the brain that holds no logic... jus fear... and the logic part cant distinguish one from the other... so we get stuck. And that's the mental illness in a nut shell 🤦♂️🙈
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I hope she gets out of this - she is on medication already ... she takes Zoloft
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It’s hard seeing a teenage girl like this - it’s messed up
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I know it's hard and also know its treatable... so maybe research some ocd therapist in your area and find someone that can help
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Yes will do thank you you have super helpful
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Curable is not somthing that is guaranteed... but treatment is there to (manage) the symptoms.
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Yes def managing it ...
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@rachel1219 But I remember growing up and thinking a lot of girls are pretty etc etc .... It never occurred me to constantly my sexuality... I don’t know....
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Theres a brilliant youtuber, Chrissy Hodges. She really helps me not feel alone... maybe watch her and see how u find her content... she has POCD herself. Shes an inspiration.
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Yes I do watch it... and funny thing her HOCD hit the same time my daughters hit 7th/8th grade. It’s a marathon- not a sprint- watching these videos stress my daughter out more.... I do believe that Covid has something to do with this too...
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She overs all the themes of POCD so the sexuality one is there... might help you understand what your daughter is going through alot more.
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