isastyle
- Date posted
- 4y
GregJGregJ
- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
If you do develop another theme you’ll be able to squash it again! How did you do ERP for harm?
isastyleisastyle
- Date posted
- 4y
I worked HEAVILY with uncertainty statements as well as script writing. My harm ocd pertained to gun violence so imaginary exposures worked best. I recognize that OCD is a smart shapeshifter but using tools to be smarter than it can be exhausting :(
GregJGregJ
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
@igluvty I have the same thing I’m dealing with. I am so scared I will shoot and kill someone. Can you give me guidance on how to squash it?
isastyleisastyle
- Date posted
- 4y
@NOCD Advocate - Greg J. I am not a therapist and everything works different for everyone but I am happy to tell you what worked for me! I have a NOCD therapist I’m working with at the moment. The uncertainty statements can help with the concrete event of committing gun violence. Often however, there’s a core fear buried under that concrete event and that is where the script writing comes into play for me. Dr Michael Greenberg has an article online about the core fear and it is very useful! Gun violence is a catastrophic fear and guns are not something we have to use on a daily basis like a kitchen knife or ur vehicle. So when I wrote out a script of the event happening, I noticed the gun itself wasn’t the obstacle to get over, it was the emotional suffering I was most afraid of enduring should something LIKE gun violence occur. hope this helps :)
GregJGregJ
- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
@igluvty Yeah I never understood how scripts worked or helped. So I would just write a script about my fear happening and then not react to it? And read it multiple times per day?
isastyleisastyle
- Date posted
- 4y
@NOCD Advocate - Greg J. Personally writing the script itself and reading it for the first time was the hardest. After that yes, now I read it once or twice everyday and it becomes boring to me. I’m not sure what your compulsions are, I ruminate heavily. So I read it over and over and just told myself it may or may not happen. I know that is what everyone says and it’s hard to believe when ur in the thick of it that it’ll work but you can do this!!
GregJGregJ
- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
@igluvty Yes my only compulsion is ruminating! I feel like we have such a similar OCD fear! Mine is about a specific person that what if I hurt them. So I should write a script about hurting them and the consequences and read it till it gets boring? I also heard you can record scripts and listen to them?
isastyleisastyle
- Date posted
- 4y
@NOCD Advocate - Greg J. If that is something you are prepared to do then yes scripts can be very effective. I haven’t felt the need to record mine but they offer that tool on this app.
Stronger. Stronger.
- Date posted
- 4y
@igluvty Love what you said about the core fear. I always make sure my recorded scripts get to the core fear. “I’m scared that I cheated on my homework. Actually, I probably did cheat on my homework. Because I cheated on my homework, that’s an immoral act, I will get kicked out of school, everyone will know I’m a fraud and I will go to hell.” I just take it alllll the way. When it comes to ethical themes, whether it’s attaching to me or someone else the panic inducing fear is always hell. When it comes to relationship or real event OCD I also go all the way, “that was cheating, I cheated and my husband will divorce me” or “what I did WAS bad. It was horrible. If people knew they would hate me. My husband would leave me and I would have to kill myself.” I just get to the fear that makes me hyperventilate, and knock it out cold. 👊👊
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- Date posted
- 24w
suic. ocd tips
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Cody Fournier
- User type
- Therapist
- Date posted
- 20w
OCD switches themes
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Dude01
- Date posted
- 20w
It's about the Themes, you can't convince me otherwise
"The themes don't matter, it's the OCD that's the real culprit!" I don't buy that. How's that? I didn't have this crap until the real event themes came along. I wasn't born with OCD, I didn't have it from a young age, etc. This was learned, this was real event theme triggered, this was a bad habit that kept on on going and never died, the frequency just picked up and now it's a daily hell. This wasn't happening before the actual themes. Which makes sense. It's a result of being "stuck" in a cycle of guilt, shame, and constant cognitive challenges to "deal" with past deeds. I've very skeptical of any future solution. The fact that there doesn't seem to be any permanent solution for real event OCD is defeating and depressing. I don't know how people "beat OCD" without some level of delusion mindset or baked out of their mind in medication. Doesn't seem to be a holistic or real solution to this. Just more of the same hellish routines. I'm just very pessimistic, it's been years. Where is the hope. Sick of being stuck like this.
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