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- 3y
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- 3y
You’re giving them too much power, that’s why they keep returning. Rationalizing is doing a compulsion, it’s like scratching a mosquito bite. The itch goes away temporarily but it’ll start to itch again. You need to take the power away from it by sitting with it the itch. Train your brain by showing it you don’t need to scratch the itch. Allow yourself to feel uncomfortable. Expose yourself to the thing you’re fearing and then it stops coming back
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- 3y
On a scientific standpoint, I heard that logic won't work because the OCD comes from the flight or fight response part and logic/rational thought doesn't communicate to that part of the brain (I'm explaining this terribly) so that's why like on TV some people see something and freeze when they should be running from it cos they'll be safe that way, and you're screaming at the TV "get out of there" but they just stand there and do nothing, it's cos the fight and flight part has taken over and the logical part can't communicate with that part of the brain. Same with ocd. You can see/feel the thoughts or urges, but the rational part of you can only judge or try to out think it, but it won't work.
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- 3y
Yes I read that there’s a specific part of the brain that is activated when we have an intrusive thought, and it triggers our fight or flight response. And our brain tries to solve the fear to ease our anxiety but in reality we shouldn’t give it any energy at all, because giving it energy makes the brain think it’s something we SHOULD be afraid of
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- 3y
I'm with you on this! My OCD tells me the same thing: If you just reflect enough on this, then you'll find an answer or figure it out. It's an OCD trap. OCD wants you to get stuck in a cycle of rationalization & rumination because then it wins. I so understand what you mean about having difficulty not getting angry or judging thoughts when they reappear. I think practicing some self-compassion can be helpful. It can be something as simple as saying to yourself, "It's frustrating that this thought is reappearing when I thought I already had it figured out. But as someone with OCD, this is how my brain works. It's not my fault the thought is back." Of course, the trick here is to resist engaging with the thought, because then you'll be running off into another cycle of rationalization. This could mean refocusing your behavior to another activity that isn't intended to decrease your anxiety. We unfortunately have to be willing to tolerate some level of anxiety, doubt, & uncertainty when refocusing. So much easier said than done, but just know you're not alone in what you're experiencing.
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 3y
I was given ERP homework in which I looked up “late in life lesbian” story lines to help with my HOCD. I got triggered sooo bad and then got worried I’ll get confused because many stories felt similar to mine, married with kids then the question happened. Does anyone else ever feel like OCD keeps dragging you back in, like the more I learn about sexual fluidity and accept it I still feel the need to “check” that’s It’s not happening to me
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- 3y
Yup actually when I finally got over my HOCD and accepted it for what it was, my OCD changed themes to POCD and I have two kids. I swear it’s like OCD doesn’t get what it wants so it keeps coming back in different ways to keep you depressed and anxious
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 3y
@Anon1294 Any advice on how to handle HOCD? No reassurance! Just advice on how to handle ERP
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- 3y
@Anonymous Yes! Okay so the most helpful thing I’ve found is accepting the uncertainty. I am pretty sure I’m straight because I have only been with men, enjoy sex with men, and I have had manyyy crushes on men. But my ocd is like “are you sure?” And my answer is “no ocd, I’m not sure🤷🏻♀️” and I accept the uncertainty. I sometimes just tell myself I’m bi and laugh it off. I allow OCD to win and I don’t allow the thoughts to give me anxiety. I’ve trained my brain to be like “yup oh well I’m gay” even though I’m not, and I don’t live that way at all. And the intrusive thoughts actually lessened and lessened after I started practicing that. It’s about accepting yourself no matter what and then OCD doesn’t have a hold on you anymore, and then the fog lifts and you are able to live life
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 3y
@Anon1294 Thank you! I’ve been in this loop for soooo long and I’ve been resisting but today’s ERP about late life lesbians really triggered me but I guess it’s part of the process. I appreciate your advice and I’m gonna keep going! Fog is getting thinner
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- 21w
I can be way too hard on myself and beat myself up over the smallest slip up in regards to OCD. Sometimes it can feel like I'm gaslighting myself on what was "so blatantly and obviously a moral atrocity in thought and intent", when 95% of the time I'm not even sure what my own intent with dealing with these thoughts is or why I do what I do. It makes me feel like some shameless beast for "daring to even entertain the thought of something so VILE!!!" When I just get so confused and scared on moral issues, like my mind is pulled down a rabbit hole I can't escape until the tricks are done on me and it's too late, i've accepted such ideas I hate until that hate and trying to not give in convince me "it might not be that bad". It feels like anything, even the most mundane things can trigger this. This cycle happens mainly because I feel like there's "no way to escape committing more 'attrocities' in thought or compulsion anyway"...and these cycles become the basis for more of these incidents. there a way to stop this? There have been multiple times where I called myself the R word, and even knowing it's a slur I still called myself that because "I'm nothing if not deserving of such scorn". Any attempt to stop the madness makes it worse and it's like all this I talked about is so convincing I dare not question it until after the fact. Please help.
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- 15w
I know the solution is to always say “yeah that could be true, but I am choosing to live my life anyway.” However, I feel like my biggest issue is my brain always assuming that it is immediately true when I do that. Like if I say “maybe I’m attracted to teenagers, it’s possible,” then my brain INSTANTLY starts rationalizing that thought and defending it and being like “oh okay so you think this now and it makes sense because xyz, and now that’s who you are and your real desire is now and always will be teenagers.” I feel really alone in this area of feeling like my brain “accepting the thoughts” means my brain immediately accepts them as true. I obviously don’t want to think they’re true but I feel so stuck now.
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- 7w
So my therapist told me to start telling myself every time I have an intrusive thought just say oh there’s that thought again, and don’t try to figure it out or do mental compulsions. Well our usual tactic of “there’s that thought/feeling again” is not working at all this morning. This morning I was having really bad anxiety, it hits hardest in the morning when I am lying in bed with my son and I know the thoughts could come at any minute. Well they did, and I immediately was like no please just think of anything else. Well in pushing away the thoughts, I had this really weird feeling like I couldn’t decipher between reality and images. I was just getting flashes of images that felt so real. Even though I could physically feel my body and know I wasnt engaging in the thought or acting on it. It was like a flash of anxiety that hit and I couldn’t tell what was real and wasn’t. So of course my mind starts trying to figure that feeling out and if what I was thinking about just happened. And no matter how many times I’ve tried to say there’s that thought/feeling again, I can’t let it go. I was physically conscious and could feel my body but mentally I couldn’t. It’s so weird and hard to explain. But I’ve been doubting and second guessing that moment all morning and I’m in a bad spiral, again. 😭 it’s like every time I think I’m moving forward I get sucked back in and feel like I can’t practice my tools anymore. I don’t know what I should do 😩
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