Anyone else feel like if there weren’t any truth to their thoughts the obsession wouldn’t be this intense? Like I’ve had intrusive thoughts about a lot of things but the ones that stick are the ones where I’m not as sure that I don’t want to do it/there’s a part of me that I feel like would and that makes my ocd go crazy
Not really. The whole disorder of OCD is that we want to be 100% certain about anything. 99.99% won't do, it has to be 100%. The truth is there are no life and therefore truth is subjective. Are you 100% certain you won't live forever? It's highly improbable, but is it impossible? As far as we know yes, but what if you or I are the outlier? Because this is the way OCD thinks I believe we cannot escape the twisted reality OCD presents to us, regardless of what we perceive as truth. OCD is a disorder where the brain is forced to misfire and analyze everything as a danger. That's just the way we are and no matter how perfect we live our lives we would always be subject to OCD's manipulation.
*no certainties in life
@McDucko Don’t get me wrong, but this feels so real, I tried testing myself to a trigger I got just an image of the person and it backfires on me
@duane🍀 Yeah, that's a compulsion. Notice how you only get worse when you perform them because they provide no certainty. In fact they just discourage embracing uncertainty.
@McDucko I tried sitting with the thought but it keeps backfiring down there 😔
@duane🍀 Because you attribute meaning to it. Whether or not that's an automatic response is based on your view of the world. If you have a very grim, black-or-white view it's not going to make a difference. You need to learn to believe that it is possible to feel things that mean literally nothing. This is much harder to do than it sounds because OCD has pretty much imprinted on how you view life. Self-Compassion is a huge plus when treating OCD because your brain has a better baseline of what side it's fighting for. If you genuinely feel you don't deserve this then the OCD thoughts start to feel ridiculous and become easier to let go of.
@McDucko Tbh I don’t know the truth anymore, this been a year now and I have still not overcome it, all tho I have over common the false feelings and memories and false attraction, and also fighting it in my dreams, and also ruminating about my past checking if I have had anything to do with the same gender I have passed all that stage the stage I’m in now is this Groinal response stage where it feels everything feel sexual and the checking part gets stronger, honestly I have also passed the denial stage too I feel like the stage I’m in now is Groinal and where the word bi feels arousing and sexual
@duane🍀 Because you're engaging in compulsions. Stop engaging in compulsions and you won't get worse.
@McDucko Will try and sit with it I wouldn’t check even if I feel like something is moving down there, I hope I get over this Groinal response stage, I have gotten over other stage just this one because it comes with feeling and make things look so real. I just hope I get over it
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@0876 What do you mean
Like McDucko said, your OCD manipulates the fact that there aren’t any complete certainties in life, and stretches that to the absolute farthest it can reach. I feel the same exact way you do, and if anyone has any advice for comfort though that I’d love to hear it.
Does anyone have any advice for how to know the difference between ocd and real feelings/thoughts? Sometimes an intrusive thought will come in and I immediately know it’s ridiculous and I can just leave it alone and it won’t bother me but other times I really really don’t know. It’s when ocd hijacks and twists my real feelings and thoughts and tries to manipulate me into believing they’re something they’re not or something that doesn’t align with my true morals or intentions. But since it’s twisting and mixing with real feelings I get so confused and scared. Everything gets jumbled and I feel like I can’t trust myself or my own mind. Yet other times and other topics I can laugh off and push away just fine. Make it make sense. And then I start to think well maybe I don’t have ocd at all and I’m just in denial because I don’t want to accept that these scary/concerning things are true about myself. Or maybe that’s just the ocd talking.
Is ocd supposed to feel like a genuine belief ? I see or hear some people saying things like « I know it’s not true but …. » while I personally don’t « know that it’s not true » I feels genuinely real and I even find evidence for it
Can ROCD make your thoughts and feelings feel 100% true or real???? Like I can have a thought or feeling and in that moment it feels real or should it not feel real until the ocd latches onto it?
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