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is catastrophizing when you’re going through a panic or anxiety attack a compulsion? i do this all of the time and it makes my anxiety so much worse, but it’s so hard to not do
is catastrophizing when you’re going through a panic or anxiety attack a compulsion? i do this all of the time and it makes my anxiety so much worse, but it’s so hard to not do
Yes!!!! I think that’s what keeps me stuck. I start getting images and weird sensations in my body.
@JayCruzzzzz this is literally me!! it makes getting over it so much longer of a process
I dont think its a compulsion necessarily. I think it's just a facet of anxiety and stuff in general. In a couple different therapy groups I've been in, they talk about something called cognitive distortions and if you look up a list of them, one of the ones that would be on those lists(atleast the ones i've seen in therapy.. the idea of cognitive distortions might be specifically a CBT skill or idea but I dont remember for sure) would be called catastrophizing. Another is called mind reading, for example. Borrowing from google because my own personal way of defining them is hard to describe at the moment, but google describes them as negative thought patterns or thoughts that lead to negative thought patterns. I don't think I am knowledgeable enough about it(or atleast I dont feel knowledgable enough about it) to explain it very well , but I hope that makes sense because I was very much paraphrasing various sources on google there. Regardless, I do struggle with catastrophizing as well(especially during a panic attack), I actually just was struggling with that yesterday some. So I relate. Regardless of what catastrophizing falls under, it is definetly hard to not do sometimes.
@Amber486 sometimes i’m really unsure of what causes my panic/anxiety attacks. i’m not sure if it’s because i’m anticipating it to come and thinking of those negative thoughts or if my body is genuinely feeling like it’s in danger. however once i’m in it, i catastrophize so so much. for example, i just had an anxiety attack a couple hours ago about throwing up. i was nauseous and that sent me spiraling. while it was happening, i was picturing myself getting sick and just the worst possible scenarios that it made it so much more worse than if i just tried to calm down. i just don’t know how to not think of worst case scenario when i feel impending doom and like i’m not going to make it out okay.
@flowerpetals I'm still trying to figure out how to do that too. Lately, I guess what I'm trying to do is to try to recognize when I'm starting to get more anxious. Like, before It reaches the panic attack/anxiety attack level. (which dont get me wrong is not always easy and takes time to learn, and I dont always recognize it every time) After that step, I try to use my therapy skills that Ive been taught to help manage my anxiety. (I dont neccesarilly mean something like doing an exposure, while they can be helpful, I mean other skills in that moment. They vary I think from type of therapy to type of therapy and some work better for some people than others.) It can be tricky with OCD though sometimes because compulsions and stuff exist. I hope that helps? I know I wasnt very specific, I tried to be but I my brain is blanking on the words I need, and I also dont want to advise you to "use this skill" because what works for me may not work for you. But I've learned that for me, recognizing that I'm starting to feel anxious or overwhelmed and trying to use the like skills for managing anxiety then can be easier then trying to stop myself from spiraling when I am actively having an anxiety attack sometimes. Although there are skills that exist to calm down during a panic attack too, like breathing exercises for example.
@Amber486 i appreciate this, thank you! could you elaborate more on the skills that help you? whether they work for me or not, i’m willing to try!
@flowerpetals I can't right now, but if you reply to this comment or heart it, it'll notify me and I might be able to later
i didn't get a response so i'm reposting, i'd really like another persons perspective... idk if what i write will make sense but i am scared of my ability to prolong and intensify / increase the vividness of the physical and mental feelings and thoughts i am experiencing to the point i think since i am doing something willingly that feels so horrific it makes me a bad person who did actually something bad. especially when this has to do with sxual thoughts that i absolutely despise. idk if it's a compulsion but it almost feels unavoidable (is it a compulsion?) let me explain like once my brain feels/knows i'm extra scared to imagine and feel something i get this anticipatory anxiety that just won't leave me alone until i undergo / get through what feels like the most disturbing, vivid level of my own thoughts and feelings and i can control that to a degree where i hyperfixate on my sensations and thoughts and it plays out and prolongs which feels so awful and real and then i'm like hold up i really just did that intentionally i feel traumatized and so grossed out. esp if i hold my breath for some reason i noticed my bodily feelings and mental images are more vivid and i feel so guilty for it. i've done so many exposures and i can't get over this fear of my own ability to purposefully be able to think really hard and manipulate the intensity of my most darkest thoughts that it disturbingly impacts both my body and mind, physical and mental reactions. is this common? is it a compulsion? what am i doing wrong and what should i do.
Does anyone else find that their compulsions actually make their OCD/obsession worse? I don’t mean in the obvious way, like that it strengthens the OCD cycle, I mean in the way that when I perform my compulsions, they make my anxiety so much worse in the moment. My main compulsions are ruminating, arguing with my thoughts, and memory reviewing, but they all just end up giving me more intrusive thoughts/questions, making my anxiety more intense, and making me think my intrusive thoughts are real. I’ve always read that you perform compulsions because they bring you relief, and I suppose for me, they more make me feel like I’m working towards “solving the issue” or “answering my question”, so then is that my version of “relief”? In reality, it just makes my anxiety worse because the more I ruminate/memory review, the more jumbled together and foggy my thoughts/memories become, which in turn makes me think that if I ruminate/memory review just a little more, I’ll be able to “push through that fog” and find my answer, which then also causes me anxiety because my brain feels foggy and hence makes completing my compulsions/figuring out my obsession impossible (which I guess is good because I’m not supposed to complete my compulsions). All of this is making me believe that I don’t have OCD and that my intrusive thoughts are true and that’s why I can’t shake them and that’s why I feel the need to figure them out and why I feel so foggy… Or is this just meta OCD playing it’s devious tricks on me? Has anyone else experienced this or is this not OCD and I should be concerned that my obsession is true?
Usually my compulsions are always motivated by fear. I feel like a child when I have compulsions. Like for example, my brain convinces me that someone is in my house and I need to open every cabinet and all the shower curtains, and do tons of other crazy things like march instead of walking so that if someone where to shoot at my legs they'd have less of a chance of hitting me. How do I stop it? I am just going about my day and I can see in my head, myself getting attacked or something and so my only option to calm myself down is to do a bunch of random actions that will keep me "safe". Does anyone else experience this? Or convince themselves that they are under Milo Murphys law? That anything bad that can happen to them will, so they need to never do anything that could result in anything bad, and avoid everything? And how do you convince yourself you're not in danger?
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