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- Becca262
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- 4y ago
Pure O here! I consider it the tenth circle of hell. This app is a place where we can all feebly tell each other "way to go" while our pure O throws shame-bricks and doubt-rocks at our heads. I didn't know I had it until this year when I saw a Chrissy Hodges video but I've had it at least since I was 9 and am 26 now. My pure O tends to focus on things I did wrong or might have done wrong or things which could have hurt others and tell me I'm going to be publicly shamed, misunderstood, kicked out of school, sent to jail or, occasionally, killed. There's a lot of responsibility and real event OCD in there, so I worry about whether something I did or didn't do which caused or is going to cause bad things to happen for other people. If I can take even a snippet of responsibility, I'll take the whole responsibility cake thanks. For coping I do meditation/emotional processing in the face of triggers using a book called Letting Go by David R Hawkins whenever I feel up to it. Uncomfortable but worth it. It helps me to do less avoidance. I've only just started OCD-trauma therapy so EMDR and ERP including scripting are on the horizon. The gold standard on this app is embracing uncertainty. The only real rule is to try not to give or ask for reassurance about the thoughts as part of seeking an answer to them, as we know it only gives OCD-doubt more fuel. Everyone here is pretty accepting of taboo OCDs, I've never seen any shaming for any themes yet, so don't be afraid to be explicit. We all have checking habits which make us ashamed and embarrassed etc. It's late so I've got to get back to trying to figure out whether coronavirus can live on ice cream and then throwing out the ice cream just in case someone else eats it and then worrying whether I really threw it out or just thought I did.
Great post. It really resonated with me. “Worrying whether I really threw it out or just thought I did”. Story of my life! Have to check everything.
Oh, I also try to make a habit of telling myself that even if all my fears came true, I could still handle it. There's a decent audiobook called "feel the fear and do it anyway". Stoicism and Buddhism also help with that, my favourites are Siddhartha and Pliny the Younger's letters to Lucius. "Is this the condition I so feared?"
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LouW thank you! You're insight really helped. I find that the root of all my thoughts often center around guilt and generalized negative feelings about myself. Then those feelings get redirected as intrusive thoughts that further confirm those feelings. Its hard because I find myself often asking "Why?", why do I feel so bad/guilty/horrible about myself all the time but I guess that's a pretty common theme among people with pure O. I know the best thing is to not seek answers even when I feel like I desperately need them. I am going to look into the Letting Go book, and the audio book! Thanks for taking the time to write your thoughts here :)
Oh yes, that's exactly it. And when you don't have an answer for where that guilt is coming from it's so easy to believe whatever thought or suggestion your brain gives that could be a semi-plausible reason to feel guilty. I've realised I sometimes even actively seek out judgement so that I can associate the guilt with something more concrete instead of it feeling like just who I am. Like wanting to say I've done things I haven't all the time, or when a friend wants to do or say something risky, I say that if it goes badly tell them it was my idea etc. But I think I am so susceptible to guilt themes in OCD because I had a pretty crap childhood in many ways which left me with 'toxic shame' from PTSD and also made me act out as a teenager out of selfishness or mistrust in ways I regret. So that's gonna be real fun in therapy. Your feelings are definitely normal for pure O and absolutely not about you, doesn't matter how imperfect you are or what you've screwed up. Self-compassion work has helped me a lot with overcoming guilt feelings by accepting myself as just as flawed as everyone else, but I've never really worked on the other side of the feelings which is about whether my guilt levels I work so hard to overcome are actually at all appropriate in the first place. There lies the OCD. Definitely check them out, the book especially and lmk what you think! It's been a life saver for me.
Wow that is a lot to handle, and it sounds like you have really worked hard to recognize everything contributing to your feelings and thoughts, and that you're working hard to overcome them regardless of your previous life experiences that generated it. That is something to be really proud of, and I hope I can achieve that as well. I'm not sure why I have generated such negative feelings about myself. I cant pick out anything in particular about my life that lead me to feel the way I do. Sometimes that in and of itself makes me feel bad, because there are people who actually have traumatic or other life experiences which generates their feelings and OCD, while here I am with no reason at all but still feeling this way.
Haha it is a lot to handle, I've got so many diagnoses at this point that I probably have 20 capital letters after my name and none of them are lovely academic/professional ones. There is a general theory that OCD stems from trauma though- doesn't have to be a major event or an awful childhood, just something that made you feel like you didn't have control or just weren't a good person which you didn't have the tools to make sense of at the time. Those things can come up in therapy or even in meditation I've found. Even if there isn't anything like that though, you're still suffering the same way. OCD is really awful and whilst I'd prefer to have no traumas to attribute it to, purely because I feel that it gives the OCD a basis in reality which is difficult to overcome and impacts my levels of fear and anxiety about the future, I don't think it's reasonable for you to feel shitty about not having things quite as bad. Heck, not HAVING anything to link it to which you can work through probably makes it all feel much more random and unknown and makes it hard to know where to even begin. Maybe I get a layer of trauma and you get a layer of existential uncertainty and not >knowing for sure< if there is some forgotten reason. Anyway it's not your job to suffer and you deserve the same amount of support and understanding. You can definitely make a lot of progress overcoming mental illness and pain, I've found that ultimately all it takes is the willingness to be flexible about literally everything- the validity of my thoughts and feelings, the helpfulness of my habits, whether some things are important or not or have to mean the things I have believed they mean, etc. The willingness to change your mind, really. New ways of thinking which feel unsafe and uncertain and quite literally change your brain and personality. It's a wild ride.
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Thank you, that is the first time I've ever really talked to anyone else who feels the same way I do. And for you to take so much time and detail to talk things out with me, it really means more than I could say. Especially about being flexible, and developing new ways of thinking.
I was hoping people could share a little bit about what works best for them in terms of coping with/releasing thoughts?
Welcome I have ocd very bad and it’s really hard for me to get through each day I must avoid 6 and number twos and I also can’t keep movies in very long in DVD player I’m the only one out of my sisters that has this my mother had it as well as my grandma ? anyway if u ever feel like to chat just drop me a line God bless
Hello, I have just recently been diagnosed with Pure O OCD and found this app by chance. It’s so amazing to see that other people experience similar things that I do. Now that I know about Pure O, so many things make sense. Thinking back over my life, I never knew so much aligned with OCD. I just figured it was cause of my severe anxiety and depression. Anyways, I’m glad I found this community. :)
Hi! My name is Mikhail. I have been diagnosed with OCD for a couple years now, and this year I started ERP therapy at NOCD. I first found out about Pure O from downloading NOCD's app and seeing other people post about their experiences with overthinking, fear, and shame. While I had been diagnosed with OCD before, I had never heard about Pure O, where the compulsions manifest themselves more internally. I was at a point in my life where I was isolating myself and afraid of the thoughts I was having all day every day. This eroded away my self-esteem and identity but the skills I learned doing ERP have helped me feel like myself again. I recommend doing ERP to anyone afflicted with OCD, as it has helped me train the mental muscles I needed to get back to my life again. NOCD specialists meet you where you are at and help you get better on your own terms. I have taken the opportunity to be an advocate because once I found out I wasn't alone with Pure OCD, it reignited the faith I had in ever recovering. Learning about other people's experiences and sharing my own has helped me live more authentically. I want to do anything I can to encourage others to recover as well, because I know it is possible and that this condition is manageable. Going through NOCD treatment invoked genuine compassion in me not just for others, but for myself, which is something I never truly felt before. If you have any questions at all, please reach out to me. I feel purpose in connecting with people about OCD and getting better together. Believe me, you are not the only one who has thought that crazy thing and then thought about thinking about it 17 more times until it impacted your behavior!
I'm new here... Honestly, I didn't know much about my OCD even though I've been living with it most of my life. I didn't know how complex it could be... I thought what I was experiencing was unique to me and no one else. Most people describe OCD different to mine but when I saw this ad.... I was like.... This is me. I struggle to accept this disorder and I just wish I could be normal... I'm afraid to touch everything and wash my hand constantly. I never tell anyone what goes on it my head because it's embarrassing and they won't understand. I don't know if this app will work but I at least have some relief knowing that I'm not the only one.
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