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- Heello
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- 4y ago
This sounds really frightening. I am a missionary and I have harm OCD. I believe the best thing for you to do at this time is to recognize that this is just OCD. It sounds like seeking reassurance is your compulsion for this. I encourage you to use ERP methods regularly if you don't have the OCD Workbook by Dr Hyman and Dr Pedrick I would reccomend it. Use imaginal exposure so your mind can habituate to these thoughts. You can do this!
Thanks! I will search for these workbooks, and if mind me to ask, how could I use erp for this? I now how to fo it for pocd
It uses the same principles of habituation (getting your mind used to these OCD thoughts and stop getting anxious). They say ERP works best in baby steps and to make sure that you so it until the anxiety goes down. Teach your mind that these thoughts are just OCD and you don't have to get worked up over it. You can do it - train your brain!
The pandemic is a struggle for everyone, but it’s also a huge exposure for people with OCD. Be sure you’re looking at it as such: don’t let the worlds issues be an excuse to perform compulsions. Seeking repetitive reassurance or 100% certainty of salvation is a compulsion. If you pay attention to the news, there are a lot of practical things you can do to prevent getting sick or getting others sick: practice “social distancing,” wash your hands, sanitize doorknobs and light switches, don’t touch your face. Do the practical things they suggest, and don’t let yourself go down the rabbit hole of “what if’s” that tell you to do more. Stress often makes our OCD spike and it seems like that is happening for you right now. Be aware of that. Take time to relax and decompress. Don’t spend too much time researching (maybe limit your internet time.) get more sleep. And remember that this too shall pass.
ok. Thanks really for replaying, I never thought about seeking certainty of salvantion as compulsion, I think it will be one of the hardest things I will do ( not seeking anymore ). I will try to relax and not panic anymore because of news and I really need to sleep, today Ive slept very bad, only 3-4 hours. This shall pass, yeah, I believe.
∆∆∆couldnt have said it better myself
I’m sorry you struggle with this. I doubt my salvation a lot too. Based on what you’ve said, I believe you’re saved. God wants you to be watchful for signs, but He doesn’t want you to worry. Please don’t hesitate to go to Him and tell Him all your fears. He is there for you.
thanks for replying, the problem is that i was away from the church and even got cold in prayers and that worries me that i am not in communion with God. I want to be able to talk to him, ask him to take all these fears from me, to take care of me during that moment. I do not know if it is possible to do written prayer, but here I do my prayer for His help
@Newstage Are you worried God won’t hear your prayers?
@Catlady yes :(
@Newstage I believe that He will hear you because I believe you’re saved and even if you don’t believe it, you’re seeking salvation.
I'm dealing with the same time !!! I'm so stressed about this ??? I want to cry but I just sit and thinking of worst case . What if the world ends , what if God don't let into heaven , what if I burn in hell forever ??but remember we are dealing with a disease OCD and God knows we're trying our best ? it's scary , I had a huge breakdown about year ago I would call my cousin who is a pastor and ask him over and over " will I go to hell? I know what you're dealing with . Understand we're fight a horrible disease , keep your head up and fight on
this is so horrible, I wanted to just cry too, I want it. I am so nervous, hyperawere and ocd still makes us doubt a thing so precious to us like this :(
You could try using imaginal exposure, I'm going to start using it too. You write out a 5 minute explicitly detailed narrative of your fears and then record it and listen to it until your anxiety goes down.
Hmm thats nice, I'll try it. You think would work for this? This fear of not being saved
@Newstage It did for me. My therapist had me build up to over-correction exposures like swearing during prayers to God, or saying grace to the devil. We started with tasks as small as writing the word "god" with a lower case g.
@NOCD Advocate - Katie But this wont later make me obsess? I heard some songs of SuicideBoys and them have lyrics like what you said, things with devil. But I started thinking God would punish me for that
@Newstage That is the point of exposure. We do exposures to intentionally trigger obsessions so that we have the opportunity to respond to the distress with more helpful behaviors
I feel your pain. As a fellow Christian, we must understand that our salvation is never losable, if you believe Christ died for you, if you have faith on it, and you repent, you try to deal with your sinful self everyday, you try at least to change your mind (that's repentance) then your saved. The salvation, you can't loose it, because Christ's sacrifice is sufficient, we are saved made saints through Him instead of Made saints and then saved. I recommend pastor Rick Warren on YouTube, there's a playlist called "Rethinking your life" is really insightful on struggling with bad thinking and so son. Godspeed, my friend.
I'll look for his channel. Here in Brazil people are mixed, some believe in salvation is not losable (wich is the one that makes my heart in peace) and others that think you need to stay on the path of God until the end or you will lose salvation, this mess me up
@Newstage I am also from Brazil, good to meet a fellow from the same country. It's important to be aware that it is not that our works that saves us, it is Faith in Christ, the thing is, seeking Christ will make you want to change and you can rely on the Holy Spirit for that, we can't do it by ourselves, nor we are saved because we made good things, doesn't mean we can just live the way we want and stop trying winning against sin, we have to try the best we can, truly in our hearts, but it is, after all, faith in the Lord Jesus Christ that saves us. In Brazil I usually like Augustus Nicodemus. But I still recommend Rick Warren. That's it, I hope we can help each other.
@Walt Nice to meet you! So I am not in sin if I believe that salvation isnt losable? I was watching Rick Warren, a very nice man, and now I'll look for Augustus Nicodemus as well. Lets help each other as we can for sure :)
@Newstage Newstage and Walt, I'm so glad you connected with each other. It's gotta feel great to see people from your own country here. I'm just popping my head in to say that it sounds like you both got sucked into a reassurance seeking/reassurance giving cycle. Can you think of some ways to break out of it together?
I want to believe in god does that count? My ocd is crazy and some how I doubt god is real so much even tho my whole life I never would I knew he was real but all of a sudden nothing makes sense idk what to do
I have Religious OCD and it's absolute torture. I'm always worried that I'm not saved or that I'm a terrible Christian, or that God is disappointed in me. I feel guilty almost constantly, and the only way to find relief is by seeking reassurance, either through Christian articles online, or through talking to my pastor. I'm sure my pastor is annoyed with me by now because every few weeks, I call and text him, urgently asking him for help. And now that I've discovered what ROCD/scrupulousity is, it's gotten much worse. At first, I was relieved to know that I'm not the only one who suffers from this, but then I started to realize that I compulsively seek reassurance. So now I feel guilty every time I pray or read Christian articles or talk to someone about my problems, because I'm terrified that I might be compulsively seeking reassurance. So now I've become obsessed over the fear of engaging in my compulsions! I don't know what to do. I just want to have a normal, functioning Christian life. I just want to stop living in constant fear and guilt. I would never kill myself, but sometimes I feel like life isn't worth living and I secretly hope I'll die in my sleep so that I won't have to live like this anymore. I just want to go to Heaven to be with my Jesus, where He will "wipe away every tear from [my] eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things [will] have passed away." I can't live like this anymore. Someone please help me.
For years I was a very anxious person, I acquired anxiety since I was bullied at my school, since I was a child. A few years ago I realized that I was overdoing it with cleaning, I always wanted to wash my hands thinking that if I didn't, I would get some disease. After that time I started to attend my church, I became a very religious person, in this environment I went through some good things and some bad things, I've seen people point the finger at me for some things they liked to do. Then they kept saying that because of my behavior I could become a nun because I was a well behaved person, This stayed in my head and at the same time I felt guilty for not wanting this in my life, sometimes I was afraid that God would punish me. I am currently unable to attend my church as I used to for fear of judgment from people and also for fear of being in a serious sin and someone pointing the finger at me and starting to feel bad.The last time I had a crisis was when I heard from a priest that watching soap operas is a sin, I spent 5 days straight researching this on the internet and the more I couldn't find what I was looking for the more anxious I felt. I caught myself several times asking God to get rid of these thoughts.There was also a time in my life when I was terrified of speaking some blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and never being forgiven by God, The Bible makes it very clear that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an unpardonable sin.
Does anyone else struggle with Christian OCD? I feel like I want to die right now. One of my core fears is the fear of my loved ones going to hell. It’s been my son for a while now because he started expressing fear he was going to go to hell and (unfortunately he appears to have religious OCD as well at even nine years old) it had gotten to a point he had felt he was unsaveable and getting angry at God. I realized that my fears of a false conversion were pushing him away/confusing him to the point I was hindering him coming to Christ. Only, I am afraid that I forced it on him now because he has asked for so long if he was ready and my husband took him to the altar. Not surprisingly he still doubts himself - he’s confused and I feel even WORSE than I did when he wasn’t “saved.” I fear if I try to reassure him and he isn’t saved that it will be my fault he goes to hell. I have barely slept since this happened Tuesday. I’m ready to die and all my therapy has completely gone out the window. I am just so depressed it’s hard to even look at my baby and not cry. *Please don’t respond if you’re not a Christian. I respect your opinions, but please respect mine.*
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