- Username
- figuringitallout
- Date posted
- 4y ago
I know what you are saying but you also know that I'm not supposed to make you feel better, right? Please know this is just your anxiety. Me, a complete stranger reads this and I don't see a individual who did/thinks anything bad. I see someone in pain. Also, I haven't researched groinal responses and I'm glad or else I might freak out too but I have never considered that they have to be both gendered. I don't think they do. The only "pattern" is overthinking and obsessing. I'm not going to abolish your anxiety because even I don't have the power to do that but please snip this thought. Cut it off at the root. The more you feed yourself negative talk the worse you will feel. Cut it off. Get up, go do something. Let the thought be there WITHOUT activity digging into it. You can do this.
This was so moving to read. I bookmarked it. Thank you so so much ❤️
I was thinking about you today and knew you'd be back with antoher question. This is the nature of the beast. Are you seeing a therapist?
The OCD isn't always the "action" it's often how we are associating to that action. The OCD doesn't have to be the groinal response. It's how you are obsessing over it. So the action itselitself (which is actually natural) is being made into something perverse by your obsessing/evaluating right now. Again, the more you dig into this the worse it will become. Reading this will bring you relief. And maybe 5 hours later, maybe 1 hour later a "but wait!" will pop up. This is still your anxious brain. When you are feeling anxious you can't trust your thoughts. EVEN if it's something that really happened. The way you are relating to it in a time of high anxiety is faulty. So when the "but wait" come, BREATHE, count down from 100, label the thoughts as anxiety, doesn't matter if it happened or not, the thought is causing anxiety, and do something physical to pull you out of your brain. Best of luck. And go easy of yourself. When you catch yourself, say, "I know I'm scared. We will get through this. Thank you brain for letting me know but this isn't something I need to worry about at this time." EVEN when it feels like it is. Rememebr when you are anxious thinking, you are using a different part of your brain. You can't tell the difference. So cut it off. Let it go.
Thank you again. It means a lot to hear you were thinking of me, and your advice is spot on. You’re exactly right about the feeling good in the moment and then the “but wait!”
People have whole themes about being attracted to one gender.
No I know, I guess what scares me is that the responses happened with kids from the same gender. Like looking back I remember I had gotten a GR and this was before I really knew what POCD was. I’m scared that it’s a “pattern.”
You're very welcome.
I’m really so glad you wrote that. I keep rereading it. What’s scary is that these incidents happened before I was diagnosed with POCD, so they don’t register in my mind as a part of my OCD, but moments of my “regular” life where I had gotten a groinal response. If that makes any sense?I’m trying my best to follow your advice.
What kind of treatments have you tried?
Just talk therapy. My new therapist and I just started getting into all of this.
@figuringitallout glad you're seeing a therapist. I no longer have issues and just did ERP and scripting at home by myself. Took me about ten sessions to feel cured. There is hope! I was ready to commit suicide because my thoughts were so abhorrent and pervasive. But now I feel free.
@James Oh my goodness I’m so glad you’re here and doing better! ❤️❤️❤️ do you suffer from POCD?
@James That is amazing. I've been in psychotherapy for a year and a half. Still struggling bad. I hope ERP helps. I tried it with my therapist for a session and fell into a depression and almost quit.
@figuringitallout Yes I did but I don't any longer. The thoughts still appear but they no longer phase me. I no longer have to 'check' every time a thought appears. It just passes through and I move on with my life.
@christinejg94 Best of luck! I usually meditate for a few minutes before I do an erp session to calm my mind.
@James Yes, my therapist stressed self care. I will have to do that for sure.
So glad to hear you are both doing better! I actually did recover but I guess I relapsed a bit. It’s just a lot of shame and guilt over what my body did, I feel like there’s something wrong with me.
Best of luck in your recovery! Don't give up!
Would you guys mind if I told you my story? I kind of did already in my original post but I thought I’d ask.
Go for it!
@James I know I shared my story before, and people may not be interested, but I need to get this all off my chest (again.) I am struggling because I remember when I was younger working at summer camp I had gotten semi-erections (I guess the proper OCD term is groinal response but I didn’t really have bad intrusive thoughts then) when playing with some of the kids. It only happened a few times, and I have done enough research ad nauseam to know that this can happen to someone, and I do accept that. However, what is scaring me now is that all of the times it happened it was a male child, and I am convinced now this means something. I know I have/never had any desire to hurt a kid, and when I told my therapist this she did not show concern, said all the usual stuff (it’s just a reaction to something on your body/ hormones/anxiety) all of which I agree with, and yet I am stuck here. The gender thing I am just hung up on.I know seeking reassurance is bad, but just hearing that I’m not being judged can help tremendously. Please don’t think I’m a sick person.
@figuringitallout I know I pretty much said this in my original post but lol I kind of wanted to provide more details. Please don’t judge me!
@figuringitallout Yes you are not alone in your experience.
@James Omg you think? I feel like I’m the only person who has experienced something like this. The gender thing especially with groinal responses.
@figuringitallout You are not the only person.
@James How do you use this site without getting triggered?
@christinejg94 I can't explain it really but I don't get triggered any more. I've posted in the past about my experience with erp and scripting. Those combined with meditation and a few lifestyle changes have seemed to cure me. No guarantee I won't relapse but right now I feel free and just want to help others who are going through what I went through.
@James That is so fantastic. I wish you the best in your future!
@James Also, what is scripting?
@christinejg94 Writing out your worst fears and the scenarios in your head and reading them over and over again. It desensitized me to those thoughts and they still show up but my mind just lets them float by mostly unnoticed. There is an exercise in mindfulness ocd book that I used.
@James Oh, okay. That's the exercise I tried once and almost quit therapy. ?
@christinejg94 Haha yeah it's scary for sure. But I feel it was crucial to my healing. I'm not a therapist but I think the mind likes novelty and things its not supposed to think. So letting it see those thoughts and make them mundane takes their power away. I still get those thoughts and sometimes even try to engage with them to see if I'm still affected but honestly my mind just finds them boring and moves on.
@James Instead of finding my fears mundane, repeating them made me believe they may be true and that wasn't a life I was willing to live. Hopefully instead of thinking, "this is true and you have to deal with it" it'll be more along the lines of, "this is a thought and you don't have to like it but it's here for a bit. How would you like to proceed?"
@christinejg94 Yeah I understand that. I had those fears arise as well.
This is so crazy seeing it from another person. This exact thing hasn't happened to me but things kinda similar and it helps me realize that we're all just suffering. That's all I'm going to say because I'm not going to enable you.
So glad to hear you say this! And I’m sorry you went through something similar. Are you doing okay with it?
Well, it wasn't a one time thing that set me off. I can come up with new things all the time if I let myself. ? Am I doing okay? Well.... most days. Thanks for asking.
No problem! You’ve been such an amazing help today. I’m sorry to hear you had similar issues, but you seem so intelligent with how you handle it!
I've been in therapy for a year and a half. And it's easier to preach it then to do it yourself lol. I struggle too.
Trigger Warning: please help! Had a kind of rough day after about a week of feeling decent. Question: I work in childcare, I have memories from before the ocd got bad of my eyes kind of naturally looking at butts. And sometimes, it would be kids butts. I kind of remember commenting on it in my head saying stuff like “wow that’s big for a child” or stuff related to that, and one time even a child came over to me and told brought me over to the monkey bars and told me that he could see a girls underwear, and I kind of looked before telling him it was rude to say that, it was kind of like my eyes were naturally attracted to it, kind of like a car accident I couldn’t look away. But I never thought of it again until the OCD started. I’ve never in my entire life pleasured myself to the thoughts of children, it’s never even crossed my mind until the OCD started, but I’m kind of convincing myself I am one. Ugh I’m so sick of this.
Ok so I’ve been kind of upset about this all day so I figured I would share this. I’m really nervous doing it because I don’t want to get judged for it. I feel so guilty about it all the time. So a couple of years ago I was babysitting a family friends kid, and they were crawling all over me, jumping up and down, and I wound up having a groinal response (I really don’t wanna say the kind.) I kind of put it in the back of my mind and forgot about it, but around last year I remembered and latched onto it and it threw me into my OCD spiral. I remembered this happened maybe two other times before that, and of course I felt weird and guilty by it. I didn’t experience any sexual arousal, yet this happened to me. I always had sexually intrusive thoughts ever since I was a little kid, so perhaps I was just having a groinal response to when that was happening because I was thinking “omg what if...” or whatever, but of course I can’t remember my thoughts. Now I know what a groinal response is and that they come in all shapes and sizes (lol) but because this happened *before* I realized I had POCD, my brain has convinced me that it was some kind of genuine attraction and that I wanted to do something bad
Anyone else read about "groinal response" and "arousal non-concordance"? Basically anyone can feel a slight "twinge" of arousal at a random time, but for people with OCD, they immediately latch onto it and think it MEANS something about them. This is how many cases of HOCD, POCD, BOCD, etc begin, I'd imagine. I can have felt something one time 3 years ago and nothing since then, but still be worried it "means" something about me. Or, sometimes that first incident causes repeated intrusive thoughts every time you come in contact with that thing, so it become a self fulfilling prophesy. I can be doing fine for weeks and then suddenly start worrying about one of these again. Anyone else have any experiences similar?
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