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Honestly I agree with you about the spectrum thing, ultimately our classification of disorders is pretty arbitrary, not only do professionals often disagree about a diagnosis (and they've done studies about things which can influence their perceptions of somebody's issues) but the diagnoses themselves aren't all that evidence-based. We get updates to the DSM with new research, and disorders are names we give to patchwork presentations of various issues with the brain, genetics, etc. In psychiatry we end up going by behaviour but these supposedly neat boxes are just iffy abstractions. Perfectionism, control issues and fear of making a mistake or being to blame are common across people diagnosed with OCD but also people with trauma, personality disorders and even brain injuries etc. OCD is, literally, a maladaptive coping mechanism, just as you described. Confession like this is one symptom of it. I think the bottom line realistically is that if you find that being here is beneficial to you, you relate to others' experiences, and you find ERP useful, then it is what it is. It's usually beneficial to focus on the treatments needed to get to the point of feeling and functioning better, rather than on a diagnosis, as a diagnosis isn't particularly useful other than in terms of the treatments and understandings it can point you towards. I'm of the belief personally that ERP can help anyone who for any reason finds that their worrying is making them miserable or negatively impacting on their life. I have OCD and PTSD and I've actually found EMDR so far to be very similar to ERP, it triggers negative feelings in a controlled environments and encourages feeling them deeply while focusing on a moving light. Rather than doing this alone until you habituate to the anxiety, you go back and forth mentally between the triggering memory & beliefs and a more compassionate replacement (one where the memory went differently or you receive comfort) in order to associate the two together in memory reconsolidation (as the light distracts your brain from overthinking). It's actually a very similar thing to not checking the stove and allowing the experience of everything turning out alright even though you didn't check, to reprogram your brain to associate not doing compulsions with all being well. I think the cross-effectiveness comes from the fact that the major symptoms of trauma are rumination and suppressed unpleasant emotions, which are usually core symptoms of OCD. I have no doubt that I could use ERP alone for my PTSD in conjunction with counselling after habituation to triggers to help absorb changes in beliefs about the situation, the world and yourself- which is also required in OCD when you do work on underlying beliefs about yourself or the world (I'm bad/something bad is going to happen/I'm going to make things go wrong). It's all down to flexibility, being willing to change what we do and how we think, even though it's painful. If you're able to source the courage to do that, you're going to be fine.
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If this app is beneficial for you, there is no reason you shouldn’t be able to continue using it! Mental health overlaps, that is nothing to feel bad or dishonest about!! You are welcome on this community always!
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- 4y ago
Hey, therapists can be wrong! Their understanding of what ocd is is always evolving and changing and some haven’t kept up with the literature surrounding it, so can sometimes misidentify what’s going on. I say this from personal experience, and I’ve also heard this anecdotally from others. If you feel your experience fits it might help you to visit a therapist that specialises in ocd so you can get a second opinion?
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I feel like feeling like you’re a constant liar when you think you have something is part of OCD
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And I know what it’s like to post something and worry I lied in it, which I’m doing *right now*
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Thanks for kind comments and taking the time to write them!
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Is the therapist who thinks you don’t have ocd an NOCD Therpist ? Or a Therpist outside of this app?
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- 4y ago
A therapist outside this app. He treats OCD patients, too. He has 20years of experience and is a psychologist. I really like him, and I’ve talked about the OCD issues with him and improving my ERP skills. I’m even going back on meds because he recommended it for intrusive thoughts.
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@Alyosha Hypothetically speaking if it wasn’t OCD the condition. Most mental conditions have obsessive and anxiety components to them. So regardless, learning to accept anxiety and thoughts and not chasing them will help you!
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- 24w ago
I have this same problem repeatedly where I see things online about faking OCD and people talking about how OCD isn’t just cleaning and it makes me feel like I’m faking it and it’s pretty much its own theme now. I have a handwashing problem and since it’s so heavily stigmatized as faking I never do it when others are watching because then I feel like I’m seeking attention. Pretty much all of my visible compulsions I do are behind closed doors or on my own and I can’t do anything about it because if I try to show somebody then I’m attention seeking and faking. If I try to talk about the fear then I’m also attention seeking because now I’m guilt tripping and seeking sympathy and therefore I shouldn’t tell anyone and I shouldn’t show anyone. I’m essentially hiding an entire mental illness because of this, the only person I’ve ever really told about my issues is my therapist, nobody else feels safe.
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I've never been diagnosed with OCD, but have thought for a long time that I do have it. I've tried to bring it up in therapy but have been shot down as "OCD tendencies". Luckily I'm with a new therapist and am planning to bring it up again. Especially after reading a lot of your posts, I'm really resonating with them. Especially my anxieties and obsessions with my health. God forbid I feel any weird pain or ache, I instantly think I'm dying. Sometimes I get a weird pain in my head and think it's a stroke or aneurysm. Ill go as far as the perform the stroke FAST test. This happens multiple times a day. I also have HUGE anxieties about death and my mortality. If I think about it too much, I get this deep cold pit in my stomach and spiral. Even talking about it causes me sooo much distress. I'm just worried I'll be dismissed or told I'm just self diagnosing because I related to a post online. But if any of this sounds accurate, please let me know. I'd love to be reassured of my obsessions rather than just dismissed as being anxious.
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It’s been 4 years. 4 years since I spiralled into a world controlled by rituals of 4, it started as 2, then 3, then 4 - my safe number. The amount of times I wash my hands after touching something dirty and how many repeats it takes until I feel ‘clean’, the amount of taps I make when closing doors to make sure I don’t ‘die’, the amount of times I rinse cutlery and plates before eating off them, the amount of times I disinfect things. My OCD subtype is contamination and I know 2020 lockdowns and the pandemic caused it to spiral but what started as a small ritual quickly became bigger until I no longer remembered what my life was like without the obsessive thoughts of germs and contamination. Could that person be ill? What if I go outside to the shops and someone makes me sick? You can’t answer the door to get that package from the delivery driver because he might make you sick, oh you can’t put the shopping away without disinfecting it first - what if someone has coughed on it? ‘I’ve got to wear gloves to do that’ I can’t, I can’t, I can’t. For 4 years I’ve lived like this, the ‘I don’t want to touch that’ or ‘I can’t go to this place because I don’t want to get ill and die’ ‘can you go do that for me as I don’t think I can right now’ - I know my OCD is irrational, I know the likelihood of those things actually happening are slim to none and I know my OCD stems from a need of control in my life because for so many years I felt like everything in my life was out of my control. But no matter how much I know of how many books I read, how many mindful practices I do the panic I feel after being ‘exposed’ or before exposing myself to a trigger is horrible. I’ve avoided and avoided and avoided to the point where something small now seems and feels like an impossible mountain to climb. It often feels like there isn’t light at the end of the tunnel on the dark days, when I know there is, it’s just going to take some time. Despite this on the outside to those not in my circle my life is a whole picture perfect painting. I run my own business, have a nice car, a nice house, a happy relationship and the of best friends and I’m so grateful for all those things but the reality is much different - behind closed doors and hidden in the closest is the OCD monster. I’ve decided now, after 4 years it’s time to change. I’m breaking the cycle and starting anew. The irony that 4 is my safe number too and it’s been 4 years since things started to get dark. I’m ready to lose control and find myself again. Why am I writing this? Honestly, I really don’t know. I found this app recently and hope it can be a help for my ERP practices I’ve been practicing on my own and it’s actually the first time I’ve ever openly posted or spoken about my OCD to date. For years I have lived with a huge amount of shame and embarrassment, hiding my issues from everyone - even my closest friends have no idea how much it impacts my day to day. I’ve felt shame as I can’t control my own mind despite knowing the thoughts are irrational and the rituals only provide temporary relief but each day again and again the safety blanket of the rituals wraps me up and takes over. The only person who truly knows how much it affects me is my partner, who has been by my side through it all, he’s burnt out and has seen first hand the impact it has had on me, my life and my happiness. I’ve sheltered him as much as I can, but I’m sure those who are in relationships with OCD can relate to the burnout their partner feels day in day out. So that’s my story, I hope those going through similar can take comfort in this and know they aren’t alone in it all as my OCD has made me feel so incredibly lonely, isolated and empty for 4 years too long. It feels freeing to finally share my monster and I hope I can connect with others who are on a similar journey to me. The biggest thing I want to be able to do again? I want to be able to hug my loved ones without feeling triggered, I want to go outside and enjoy life without worry, I want to live again. This app has made me feel seen for the first time in a long time and reading your stories, your experiences and how you’re coping is comforting, encouraging and makes me feel less alone ❤️ thank you for reading x
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