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- mmentz
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- 5y ago
I’m currently suffering badly with this theme.. along with paranoia fears, and maybe any other mental illness that’s more ‘severe’. Wondering if conversations in my head mean I’m having people talk to each other in my head, wondering about my inner voice, wondering if the antibiotics I’m taking are triggering paranoia... i don’t know what to do anymore. It seems obsessive rather than schizophrenic but I still have so much fear!!
I still think about it occasionally, and sometimes I freak myself out, but I typically come to this conclusion; it is, what it is. I had similar thoughts, I also became very apparent of my surroundings, what I was seeing, what I was hearing, and what I was thinking. I was trying to find specific things to justify my fears. I mean shit I still am bothered by it. But at the end of the day, just accepting that you don’t know if or when it can happen has just giving me a weird zen. Don’t get me wrong I still think and worry about it, but like anything related to OCD, everything we think of is closely observed and very much criticized. I started with Harm OCD (still do), POCD, and now Schitzo (Health) OCD. OCD is a Pain in the butt. You got this!
I’m dealing with almost all of these now. I can’t stop checking to see if the things I see out of the corner of my eye are actually there. I can’t stop doing it because it happens to instantaneously!! How do I stopp?
Do you get the thoughts of the different kind of symptoms and start worrying about if you have schizophrenia?
@Jerry Yep I do. Working on my imaginal exposures now for it
@Ellie0630 Likewise, it’s a pain in the butt. But I wish us both luck!
Honestly, people like your family member is why it’s so hard to talk about mental illness. :( hang in there - a good way to get over your compulsions is to slowly limit them over time. Eventually it will get easier at least.
I know this is an old post, but do you still deal with these symptoms? Thank you also for sharing... your post seriously helped me tonight.
How are you guys? I’m going through this
Hey, still occasionally dealing with it, but I keep telling myself, it is what it is. That attitude has helped me work through it and well it’s a good exposure at the same time. It allows the uncertainty.
Hi this is my current fear .. everything u described I do! I just can’t get over it .. to the point I tell myself what I really do have this what if I really do hear voices.. I’m just really trying soooo hard
It’s a pain in the butt, mainly because just like OCD it’s completely involuntary, unless street drugs play a roll.
@Jerry Nope never did any drugs I’ve always had health anxiety always think something is wrong w me.. now I’m currently facing this fear fear of schizo it’s been 2months.. I’ve a seen a psychiatrist and doing therapy man it sucks.. I tried to erp and I was good for a minute for idk it’s just hard .. makes me feel like what I do schizophrenia and not ocd because I’m constantly obsessing over it why am I so infatuated on it
@ bp224 I agree, I do that too sometimes. Between that and HarmOCD are my reoccurring themes. Keep working towards the ERP and with a OCD therapist. It helps the longer you continue with it!
@Jerry When you were scared of it did u feel live u developed symptoms of it
@ bp224 More so scare of developing symptoms, so much that I would be over observant
@Jerry Same
@Jerry Did meds help u
@ bp224 I mean meds help with the aniexty but nothing else really. Meds in my experience doesn’t stop the ocd thoughts
@Jerry I just want too stop obsessing over it so much .. I tried erp watching videos and it caused so much anxiety.. like today I seen someone on top of a building maybe working ? But Usually I’ll pull my find out to insure it was really real and because I didn’t this time all I can think about is was that a hallucination or really real .. it’s killing me that’s all I can think about ?
@ bp224 That’s how obsessed I am I will chase the sounds
@ bp224 I suggest you continue with ERP.. that’s the best way to help with the intrusive thoughts. I don’t want to reassure you either, because that won’t help. It just gives temporary comfort. Are you talking with a therapist?
@Jerry Yes .. also just joined a ocd support group ..
@ bp224 Good! That’s great then! It gets better! It’s hard but it’s gets better!
@Jerry As someone who’s going through this right now I can say it gets better too. I took meds had a bad reaction so I quit. You can go through erp. But the biggest biggest thing here is cutting out compulsions. Live with uncertainty. Do things you would do if you didn’t have ocd. It gets better. I’m typing this as I’m alone in my room. I couldn’t be alone a month ago. I couldn’t shower without my gf over fear I would somehow hallucinate if someone wasn’t with me. Ridiculous I know but nothing about ocd isn’t ridiculous. Start by stopping your research and reassurance. Accept the weird things/thoughts and try you best to live what you think a normal life is. I was at a point where I was questioning if some guy that walked by me was a hallucination. Everything I heard must’ve been a hallucination too. But it wasn’t. It hasn’t been yet and I can’t control if it ever will be. I’m still recovering so it’s hard to remind myself of all of these things but it’s part of recovery. Meds can help take the edge of anxiety off but it will always be up to you to put In the work to be able to handle intrusive thoughts. It’s entirely possible.
@lulu23 You can see I posted on this very thread 53 days ago because I was severely obssessed with this theme. It’s was one of many but top 2 in terms of fear.
@lulu23 Wow you described me so well! I’m so scared I haven’t been home I’ve been sleeping at my moms literally with her because of strong of a fear this is.. today I seen something on top of a building and I didn’t take a picture of it and it’s killing me inside as all I can think of is rather or not it was a hallucination it’s really eating me alive that I can’t go back in time . I even had thought about driving back pass the building
@lulu23 That was awesome! Thanks for telling me that. I seriously appreciate it! I agree, the hardest thing to stop is the comoulsion/reassuring seeking
@ bp224 Ocd wants you to drive back and check. Anything ocd wants you to do don’t do it. Stay strong guys we can get through this shit stronger than we were before it happened.
@lulu23 Last comment, repeating what I’ve said here already. I can’t stress this enough!!! Resist compulsions. Stop checking stop asking you loved ones if they heard that noise too. Coming from someone who feared every noise and every person it gets better if you stop compulsions. Compulsions aren’t always physical either.
@lulu23 Yeah it’s really killing me that I couldn’t reassure myself and now I’m stuck with the if ..
@lulu23 Yeah I’m trying so hard I realize it’s making this a lot harder
You are amazing and so brave! Sending lots of love
that was a huge theme for me in high school. i was horrified to be a “violent” or “crazy” person. i remember i wouldn’t listen to a cd that a friend gave me, because a friend of hers had listened to it, and that person was mentally ill. if i listened to the cd i was sure that their schizophrenia would seep into me and i my life would be ruined. it’s little things like that. everything you describe is ocd, and non of it is schizophrenia. people without mental illness experience hallucinations of all varieties, the brain can be tricked! if something like that happens, it’s not proof that you are “crazy” that’s for sure. i’m sorry about your family though. i think that when you make a joke and they comment negatively, that you tell them what you’ve said here. that joking helps you take yourself less seriously, and makes you feel better. it can be a useful tool!
Yes. Do not worry, because if you really had schizophrenia, you wouldn't have been able to write such a post.
god i feel this so much :( i know it’s been a while but how’re you doing? i struggle with this more than anything, and it’s extremely difficult. i even physically feel it sometimes it’s so strange.
This.
I find it helpful to distinguish between pure O and OCD because, while I do have some triggers in my environment, they’re not consistent enough to really establish a theme, and most of the time I’m triggering myself with my own thoughts. For years I didn’t think I had OCD anymore because my OCD was so adaptive, and I had no physical compulsions, besides reassurance seeking and avoidance, but the compulsions were so covert that I rarely, if ever, noticed them. It wasn’t until reading about Pure O that I was able to expand my understanding of OCD as a WAY of thinking rather than a strict set of obsessions and compulsions. As I learned about how my OCD had creeped into the way I thought about practically everything, I became envious of those whose OCD was traceable in a specific theme, e.g. contamination (although I know this is an oversimplification, and people with contamination OCD don’t have an easier time with OCD at all), because I felt like OCD was always two steps ahead of me, distorting my thinking about things big and small. Now that I’ve gained some serious ground, I can see OCD in every area of my life through the way it distorts, but it’s still a constant battle, and I have to do mental exposures all the time. It would’ve been helpful though for people to explain that thoughts can also be triggers, because that distinction kept me in the dark for years. I thought “oh, I don’t have OCD, because there’s not a SPECIFIC trigger I can trace all my obsessions back to.” No—my obsessions are also my triggers, and they are also my compulsions, combining into one great maddening combustible mass that becomes so circular that it’s impossible to figure out where it started. I hope that people can understand this and not just think of OCD in its most stereotypical form. I suffered from harm and morality obsessions when I was really young, and I prayed and tapped and did all sorts of things that made it much easier to diagnose back then, but since then, 20 some odd years later, OCD had crept in the back door in a way that was much more difficult to track, and I spent countless hours and money on therapy that made me worse. It’s frustrating to think back on all the lost time, especially KNOWING I had OCD as a child, and that it duped me for so long afterwards in college and young adulthood. I’m more accepting towards it now, but I just really can’t emphasize enough how important it is for people to understand that OCD is not limited by “themes”, and that it uses anything to its advantage. The good thing is that once we realize that, the common denominator of OCD-thinking is easier to recognize in day to day life.
TW rant: suicidal OCD So this has been my major theme for the past year since my onset started. For clarification: I just have suicidal OCD, I’m not actually suicidal Incase there’s confusion about that. Anyways, I am so SICK of hearing about the topic of suicide which seems to be everywhere. You hear a story on the news that some celebrity did it, or other stories that people they knew did it or they themselves attempted it. You hear that people with mental illnesses or those who went through trauma or just being a middle aged white man have higher risks of suicide. On my explore page on Instagram, thanks to the OCD support pages I follow, I get suggested posts about other mental health related things and there’s usually posts about “signs of suicidal people” or whatnot. I’m soooo sick of it. Having suicidal OCD has been extremely hard and scary to have. It seems like anything is a trigger and the unwanted thoughts of it keep popping up (as OCD normally does). A lot of the time it’s aimed toward myself, but a big chunk of it is aimed toward my loved ones, like what if they decided to commit suicide? If I haven’t seen a family member in a little while (they’re chilling in their room or whatever) I get scared they might have killed themselves so I feel the compulsion to check on them, ask if they’re okay and happy etc. But it’s mostly at myself and I hate it so much. I think overall, whether this attack is aimed toward myself or others, it just absolutely terrifies me that anyone could just decided to do it and then just do it? It’s not like fearing a murderer coming to your house or an outside threat, but you’re the threat! And you can’t seem to protect your loved ones from it! I get these fears that I’ll become depressed (I’m not depressed) and eventually desire it or that I’ll spiral from fear and pain and eventually desire it, or that it’ll be like the movie Bird Box where the people in it (after seeing the monster) seemed to go on autopilot and killed themselves. I can’t even see words like “committed” or “attempted” without having my stomach jump. I struggle to get things out of my closet since having an open closet is even a trigger for fear. I just wish suicide never existed, I wish it wasn’t a thing, I wish I’d never think about it, I wish i could move on from this intense fear. (Disclaimer: I’m doing ERP for this and compared to before have been progress, but on my spike days it’s just so frustrating) Thanks for listening 😩
Before I was diagnosed with OCD I was certain I was loosing my mind. I convinced myself that I was schizoprenic or going slipping into pyschosis at any moment. It all started one day at work after having a few drinks the night before and chugging one of the most amazing tasting coffees of my life. I had my first panic attack. The best way I can describe it felt like my soul was leaving my body (I became really, really light headed). It was horrifying. This spiraled out of control with more and more panic attacks. I started having intrusive thoughts/what seemed like an intrusive urge to do ridiculous stuff. For example, I remember being in a spiritual development class one day and I had this intrusive urge/thought to smash all of the beautiful crystals. Something i'd never do obviously but the thought horrified me. Since, my OCD theme has jumped around a bit to so many ridiculous things. I had harm OCD for a while where I would see images in my head of stabbing someone or pouring boiling water on them. As ridiculous and silly as it sounds to an outsider, I can not even began to describe the grief and horror this created in my soul. I then had repetitive intrusive thoughts "schizophrenic" and "demon" over and over again gosh probably thousands of times a day. Again, certain I was crazy. I tried CBT which actually made it worse. I was terrified to speak to anyone about what was TRULY going on with me because I was certain i'd end up bakeracted and as a single parent I knew that couldn't happen. Plus I knew at heart I was not schizophrenic it just spiraled into this massive fear. It plagued my life every day for years until I FINALLY talked to another person that has OCD & send me an article about OCD where I began my research into leading to an eventual diagnosis. My compulsions were more mental acts like searching mental illness on Google for hours, avoiding triggers, and saying internal prayers or asking the universe to give me signs i'm not losing it in addition to nervous movements like fixing my hair or putting my hands near my face. I am still healing from OCD and the terror that its' caused in my past but i've learned to love myself and know that I am worth it (having mental health issues has always made me feel like it's my biggest flaw) and it's so beyond my control & despite my issues, i'm still pretty awesome! WE ARE ALL A LITTLE INSANE ANYHOW ARENT WE? Lol. Seriously, it's been an absolute game changer. I still have intrusive thoughts from time to time that create some anxiety but it's decreased so drastically. Most of the time I don't pay them any mind or it's tolerable. I am so beyond grateful for NOCD and understanding everything I can about OCD. My life will never be the same since that day but its still pretty damn good! I just want to add a couple other symptoms I experienced was dreaded fear I was going to start hallucinating at any moment. I'd question if I was really seeing/hearing things or if I was hallucinating, and constantly checking my mental state. Too happy? OMG I'm manic and that's going to cause pyshcosis. Too sad? Vice versa.. I hope this helps! Do the triggers, accept the uncertainly, accept your fear and get your life back.
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