Does anyone else ever have the thought of “what’s the point?” Every time they try to better their life even in the smallest way. When I go to buy clothes I think “what’s the point” or when I think of going to the gym and losing weight or decorating my house, etc things that shouldn’t really be a big deal it’s like I demotivate myself but I want to do these things. I don’t get why I even think this it started a few months ago and it’s making me depressed :(

i kind of do too, but its not in the depressed way, but in the intrusive thought way. its suicidal and existential ocd mixed together (i love life and im very optimistic) and so intrusive thoughts of meaninglessness, suicide and the “whats the point” pop up all of the time, like, just thoughts of a very depressing nature that i dont at all identify with. so scared of being depressed ahahahah. anyways, maybe you’re in the same boat as me, or maybe you’re just really drained from all that ocd. either sucks, i know

i remember talking to a girl on instagram that found me in the comments on an aligreymond post, who related to what i asked about (the very depressing and suicidal intrusive thoughts) and i asked her if she was generally an optimistic and happy person. you know, usually very in love with life, and she went all “yes yes yes! these thoughts arent like me at all!!” and maybe youre the same, like, all optimistic and like “life is a goddamn gift! birds are singing, sun is shining, its a wonderful day!”. my bet is that you only notice these thoughts and are very botheres by them because when they enter your mind, they seem way off, because they’re not “you”. like, you cant identify with them, but their presence scares you because ocd makes you think every thought must mean something about you (which they dont, we all know by now). so literally, they are counter to who you are as a person, and thats why you go all “ew no what the hell!?!” because i bet youre very motivated and positive and hopeful for the future USUALLY, but ocd only likes to take what you like the most. its like a little kid that only wants what youre playing with after theyve seen you having fun playing with it but like, yeah, this is how i feel, and i think a lot more people here with ocd feel the same way because we’re usually very grateful for our lives, families, partners and its important for us to stay good people. generally, we’re quite passionate, right? we dont really give up in that way

Oh my god yes. Before I figured out this was ocd it was SO distressing and I spent months on it

I know that. For me it‘s because of real difficulties to picture improvement and to believe in it.

Yes, unfortunately

Totally.

Very true. Just 6 months ago I remember feeling completely happy about everything, so I think it’s just ocd messing with me

I'm currently getting therapy for exactly this. I'm really struggling with it. Does anyone have any suggestions on dealing with existential/suicidal intrusive thoughts?

I relate!

but hey, we can soothe ourselves with the knowledge that we’d only have tge intrusive thoughts if the opposite were true. you know, “whats the point” comes from a place of “it matters, i care and i love my life!” (although loving life is a little harder when ocd takes the things that you love away from you, but still!)

It's known as all or nothing thinking. If I'm not gonna do it the way it should be, (perfect, exact, and so on) than I may not try. But the answer is there is no way to know or else you check

I agree, @anna banana, I don’t think the “what’s the point” thoughts are depression thoughts for me, they’re just more intrusive thoughts I don’t identify with that ocd is trying to trick me into thinking are real.

yeah totally! my ocd hit like out of nowhere. or not totally. but the whole thing with the depressing ass thoughts made no sense to me and scared me VERY much because i was like “i wanna stay happy and i dont wanna be all sad and suicidal”. i remember having days where i was so utterly fucked up by that ocd when it was just a few weeks new, and people would look at my clothes of choice and the way i talked and were all “where did anna go? ur always in a great mood and now you look all confused?”, like people that know me know me as someone dancing around and laughing and always handinh out positivity, and then suddenly the “whats the point” is in your head and youre like “what the fuck? i dont.. no”

@anna banana yes 100%! It makes me feel abit depressed because it demotivates me but the thought itself isn’t like a depressing thought you’re right , it seems sooooo intrusive like any other ocd thought wow I thought I was the only one ?

Yesss & also , I am a very happy bubbly fun person, but I’m SO over this shit tbh! When I’m Deep in ocd i do feel like life is horrible :( and it’s crazy because the thought comes out of nowhere and ruin any happy moments for me ! This “what’s the point” thing is my new thing and it’s sooo fkd up !

Thank you! That helps ❤️

I would like to learn more about the all or nothing theory - can you give me any other info @anna banana