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i kind of do too, but its not in the depressed way, but in the intrusive thought way. its suicidal and existential ocd mixed together (i love life and im very optimistic) and so intrusive thoughts of meaninglessness, suicide and the “whats the point” pop up all of the time, like, just thoughts of a very depressing nature that i dont at all identify with. so scared of being depressed ahahahah. anyways, maybe you’re in the same boat as me, or maybe you’re just really drained from all that ocd. either sucks, i know
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i remember talking to a girl on instagram that found me in the comments on an aligreymond post, who related to what i asked about (the very depressing and suicidal intrusive thoughts) and i asked her if she was generally an optimistic and happy person. you know, usually very in love with life, and she went all “yes yes yes! these thoughts arent like me at all!!” and maybe youre the same, like, all optimistic and like “life is a goddamn gift! birds are singing, sun is shining, its a wonderful day!”. my bet is that you only notice these thoughts and are very botheres by them because when they enter your mind, they seem way off, because they’re not “you”. like, you cant identify with them, but their presence scares you because ocd makes you think every thought must mean something about you (which they dont, we all know by now). so literally, they are counter to who you are as a person, and thats why you go all “ew no what the hell!?!” because i bet youre very motivated and positive and hopeful for the future USUALLY, but ocd only likes to take what you like the most. its like a little kid that only wants what youre playing with after theyve seen you having fun playing with it but like, yeah, this is how i feel, and i think a lot more people here with ocd feel the same way because we’re usually very grateful for our lives, families, partners and its important for us to stay good people. generally, we’re quite passionate, right? we dont really give up in that way
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Oh my god yes. Before I figured out this was ocd it was SO distressing and I spent months on it
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I know that. For me it‘s because of real difficulties to picture improvement and to believe in it.
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Yes, unfortunately
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Totally.
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Very true. Just 6 months ago I remember feeling completely happy about everything, so I think it’s just ocd messing with me
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I'm currently getting therapy for exactly this. I'm really struggling with it. Does anyone have any suggestions on dealing with existential/suicidal intrusive thoughts?
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I relate!
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but hey, we can soothe ourselves with the knowledge that we’d only have tge intrusive thoughts if the opposite were true. you know, “whats the point” comes from a place of “it matters, i care and i love my life!” (although loving life is a little harder when ocd takes the things that you love away from you, but still!)
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It's known as all or nothing thinking. If I'm not gonna do it the way it should be, (perfect, exact, and so on) than I may not try. But the answer is there is no way to know or else you check
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I agree, @anna banana, I don’t think the “what’s the point” thoughts are depression thoughts for me, they’re just more intrusive thoughts I don’t identify with that ocd is trying to trick me into thinking are real.
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yeah totally! my ocd hit like out of nowhere. or not totally. but the whole thing with the depressing ass thoughts made no sense to me and scared me VERY much because i was like “i wanna stay happy and i dont wanna be all sad and suicidal”. i remember having days where i was so utterly fucked up by that ocd when it was just a few weeks new, and people would look at my clothes of choice and the way i talked and were all “where did anna go? ur always in a great mood and now you look all confused?”, like people that know me know me as someone dancing around and laughing and always handinh out positivity, and then suddenly the “whats the point” is in your head and youre like “what the fuck? i dont.. no”
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@anna banana yes 100%! It makes me feel abit depressed because it demotivates me but the thought itself isn’t like a depressing thought you’re right , it seems sooooo intrusive like any other ocd thought wow I thought I was the only one ?
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Yesss & also , I am a very happy bubbly fun person, but I’m SO over this shit tbh! When I’m Deep in ocd i do feel like life is horrible :( and it’s crazy because the thought comes out of nowhere and ruin any happy moments for me ! This “what’s the point” thing is my new thing and it’s sooo fkd up !
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Thank you! That helps ❤️
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I would like to learn more about the all or nothing theory - can you give me any other info @anna banana
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I’m 21. The 3 year anniversary of my graduation from high school is soon. Lately, I’ve been worried about where I’m going in life and if it’s even worth it because I don’t know why I exist or what my purpose is After graduating I lost a new job I loved due to poor management on my boss’s side, they failed to teach me my job then fired me for it, and moved from my mom’s house into my dads house due to issues with my stepdad, both of which put me into a depression. I got a new job 3 months later. But ever since being fired and moving out, I feel like I’ve been in a depressive cycle of Eat, Sleep, Work, Repeat. I’ll get home and doomscroll for hours, and occasionally play games with friends at nights. Occasionally I’ll do my hobbies but usually feel guilty for it. I don’t see my friends and family nearly as much as I used to. I want to, but it feels like everything I want to do, my intrusive thoughts find a way to keep me at home. “It’s a waste of time.” “You need to be productive on your time off or you’ll go nowhere in life so stay home.” But then if I stay home it’s “you need to go out and do something.” “You’re being unproductive sitting at home all day.” “Seeing them wont make you feel better, you’ll never be happy” My girlfriend lives 6 hours away and is usually the only time I’d go outside and live and feel in the moment, but even then I’d feel guilt. I feel like my OCD makes me feel guilty for everything. She’s helped me a lot, but lately we’ve had a few issues we’ve worked past that made me fear for losing her too. I’ve felt depressed for years now. Before being fired, I usually felt pretty good and was almost normal feeling. I’d had control over my fears and intrusive thoughts of suicide and the meaning of life, and had accepted them and wasn’t afraid. I knew it wasn’t me. But lately I’ve been trying to push myself out of this depressive cycle, and it’s made my OCD and fears of suicide and if life has meaning, come right back. I’m handling it slightly better, but it’s still hard. I just want to move past this and stop questioning why I’m even doing anything, if I want to end it all, when I know for certain I don’t want to and that I get to make my own meaning in life. I have dreams, I want to get back into art. I want to move in with my girlfriend eventually and start a family. But my OCD makes me so scared to even try to make art, and it makes me so scared I won’t be happy or content with my dreams. I feel so alone and sad. I feel like life will pass me by while I’m stuck feeling this sad and scared. It sucks, but I’m trying my best to get there. Gotta keep moving
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Hi guys so this existential theme is like a final boss in all ocd themes for me. I just dont know what to do tbh. My main problem is that whatever iam doing my mind goes: whats the point? Iam watching tiktok about workout my mind goes: there is no point. Iam planning vacation: there is no point. Iam tired of this. I don’t know if its still ocd or what but what i know is that it complitelly ruining my life and i have zero peace. If someone can help me with these meaning of life and point of life thoughts i will be so gratefull because iam starting to feel hopeless.
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This is gonna be a long one: So a little over a month and a half ago, my OCD started to spiral again. I’ve had ups and downs with it in the past, my main themes often changing. When I was younger it as afraid I’d run away, in middle school it was germs. But as I got older I started having intrusive thoughts of the meaning of life, suicide, and dying, with those fears being my common themes now I’ve gotten a lot better since it started back up, but lately have been panicking because I’ve had intrusive thoughts that my methods of trying to heal are wrong. I’m 21, and for the last 3 years have lacked ambition and haven’t pursued my dreams or things I want to do. I just sleep, work, eat junk food, and play games or watch YouTube on my time off. Things I still love, but after years of living this way, I’ve hit a breaking point and want to start doing more with my life and the people in it Yet, almost EVERY new thing I’ve been trying to do or start, I’ve been having thoughts that they’re wrong or won’t help. Here’s some examples: I’ve started trying to eat a bit healthier, and my brain is telling me it’s not gonna fix me and I’m just avoiding food I like (junk I know makes me tired and sad). Then the moment I indulge in even one unhealthy food item, it tells me I’m failing at taking better care of myself and that junk food just numbs the feelings Same with video games. I tell myself it’s okay to play them as long as it’s not to avoid anything or they don’t take up my life like they have been. The second I do I feel guilty, say it’s cheap dopamine and hindering me from being productive and that I’m numbing my feelings again Same story for everything. Trying to walk and go outside more. Head tells me I’m avoiding being home because it makes me anxious. Then when I stay home it tells me I’m wasting time I could be spending outside or with people I love I’ll wanna spend time with my family or friends because I’ve been a hermit for years and miss spending time with them. When I try to, head tells me I can’t because then I’m avoiding the issues I have and seeking reassurance, and that I need to learn to tolerate this alone. But then when I stay home too long, I get anxious and sad because it does make me happy being around them even if I’m not seeking reassurance, and they genuinely do help me feel better (for example I saw my grandparents last night and talked about my feelings and desire to actually go out and live life, and they helped me understand uncertainty is part of life and I should do things I want anyways and even helped come up with things I may like to try doing. Now my brain tells me it’s bad to get help or open up about my pain) I’ll have racing thoughts in my head and I’ll be arguing with myself over rather it’s better to face them head on, ignore them, or let them run their course. It feels like no matter what I do, I’m feeling guilty and shame for it. As if any attempt at feeling pleasure or doing something that makes me happy is “avoiding the problem”, like I HAVE to focus on my intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and sadness 24/7 otherwise I’m “avoiding/burying it again” I know not to avoid these things and it’s best to confront them (if they’re real problems I have like relationship issues and insecurities and loneliness) and learn to tolerate the anxiety and uncertainty of life and OCD, but my attempts at “helping myself” are quite literally what I feel is currently keeping me so miserable. They’re sucking whatever joy I have in life out, telling me it’s bad, and that I have to feel this way all the time so I can “learn to tolerate it” I’m just so scared of doing all of this wrong, and I think my OCD I knows that and is currently using that to toy with me. I want to be healthier and happier, but then I feel guilt and fear for not being healthy 24/7 and indulging in not healthy things like video games and the occasional junk food. Anybody else ever felt this way?
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