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girl I’m literally the EXACT same and in the same scenario right now.. I think as hard as it is, actually going on the date is the best ERP, and the more we do it, the less scary and intimidating they will be.
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Yes! You should definitely go! It will be anxiety enduring but when that subsided you’ll be great! I say go!!
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yes!! and my brain comes up with the idea that they could be with someone better, or pictures him with other girls who are ‘prettier’. Which then feeds into my HOCD and tells me that I want to date a girl. Or that I’m not feminine enough for a guy to like me, or that if I dated a girl then I wouldn’t have that insecurity, or that if I don’t feel feminine enough, then I must be the ‘guy’ in the relationship and therefore i’m actually a boy? It all sounds so crazy and ridiculous but feels so real.
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HAHAHAH wow I actually just gasped out loud because those EXACT thoughts have crossed my mind. Insane! You know sometimes we just have to say this shit out loud and it will extinguish itself. Here’s some- “The only reason I’m actually too anxious to go on a date is because my inner, subconscious, gay-dar antenna is furiously trying to tell me that I don’t like guys”. “The only reason why I stopped liking the guy I was infatuated with (who said he loved me after dating for two weeks and was talking about getting married and our children on the third week) is because I actually don’t even like men, so” “The show ‘Queer Eye’ makes me cry almost every episode and...and only gay people watch that and cry so. Gay.” I just.
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here’s some of mine: “you love your friends so much and sex is an act of love so you want to have sex with your friends” “your discomfort around girls that ‘seem’ gay is because you’re attracted to them” “women are wonderful and deserve all the love so it is your responsibility to give it to them” (?) “you and this boy are bonding over something that your ocd has deemed ‘boyish’ so you must not actually be attracted to him and just want to be his ‘buddy’”
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I want to start a thread of all of our own individual HOCD conclusions tmr. I feel like we could really relate to each other’s cause I definitely relate to those too!
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These are so relatable lol Here's some of mine, if you don't mind: " As I've never been in a relationship (I have high standards lol) this is a proof I'm gay, even though I've always dreamed about being in a relationship with a man that I love." "As you've never watched straight porn, it means you're only sexually attracted to women, even though you've got turned on by reading straight porn. (I've always wanted my hypothetical future husband to be my first in every aspect of sex.)" Graphic warning: I've never touched myself, just rubbed my legs, which creates a nice feeling. "Since this all started, every time someone talks about coming out you get nervous. Maybe you were just closeted and ocd is an eye opener." "You're just nervous to admit it because you know your family wouldn't accept it." These hurt me so much. They all seem so real, they are destroying my life and taking away my happiness.
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Oh.my.gosh. Lavander. I relate to this so so hard. “Because you’re family wouldn’t accept you”- that one has been the one that has really made the ocd stick. To someone on the outside that literally just looks exactly like someone who’s just afraid to come out. (Literally the words “come out” stress me out.) My rational side always thinks “wtf do I need to come out for??”. When I was younger I had the hugest problem with scrupulosity and guilt so whenever I had a sexually inappropriate thought, I immediately had to go confess it to my mom. There was a bunch of other stuff involving my school and me having to leave for a little bit but anyways. Guilt has been such a gigantic player in my life. I felt guilty for suffering with hocd when I knew my parents wouldn’t “accept” me. I know that makes absolutely zero sense. Once day I just cracked and absolutely HAD to confess to my mom what was happening. I felt like my ocd was screaming at me “once you hear that she would love you anyways, you’ll be fine and accept yourself!!”. At first she was like “no you’re not gay” and I was like “I know I know but I just need to hear that it would be okay if I was”. And she was like “I mean sure it would, there are so many gay people in the world!” I felt nothing. No comfort, no happiness, no tears of joy. It felt wrong, like why was I even asking for this?? I literally started laughing and when we got off the phone I was so embarrassed that that even happened and I resorted to my 7 year-old guilt confessionals. It’s not what you think it is Lavander, I promise. And as for ‘never been in a relationship’- I don’t even count the one month stint I had with this guy as a relationship because I literally hated it the entire time and it was just him that was madly in love with me (but then ended up cheating on me lol). That was two years ago, I’m in college and nothing has happened since. I could definitely see how ocd could use that as ammo but I’m just not letting it. I have very close friends my age that are straight and haven’t had boyfriends either- that doesn’t mean a thing. I know I know I’m SO being reassuring here??♀️ But Im just trying to restructure the black-and-white thinking ocd uses to come to the conclusions that it does. It’s NOT valid!!!!!
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I was the exact same way and had been in a terribly abusive relationship before meeting my current boyfriend. I canceled out first date then felt so terrible about it. It was all I could think about. I almost cancelled again but decided to just go and we’ve now been dating for a year. Before the date I just sat down and focused on breathing and didn’t look at my phone until my alarm went off letting me know it was fifteen minutes before he said he’d pick me up. I just did everything to distract myself up until the last minute before the date and it went well and we’ve been together ever since.
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Wow @jesspb, thank you so much for sharing that with me. It gives me hope to know that you can be extremely afraid before, and still have a good time during. My brain is just trying to convince me that it’s a terrible idea and it will go bad. I’m gonna do it. Thanks again, I’m so glad you found someone who makes you happy❤️
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In going on a first date, normal people feel a tolerable amount of anxiety, anxious people feel more anxiety, and people who have ocd related to this topic feel an explosion of anxiety. Everything just seems against me. I want this for myself but I also literally feel like throwing up when I think about it.
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I also have tragically low self-esteem so. Just a little tid bit there.
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Ughh thank you! Okay. Okay okay. I’m just going to do it. I’m also (like the rest of us) super perfectionist so if it isn’t a GREAT date I’m probably gonna be really upset. I also just realized I’ve never really been on a first date. Oh God
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Can anyone describe wtf a date is even like. I’m gonna throw up. What if I start having a panic attack.
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Good luck!!! Just let yourself remember to have fun!
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Dates are fun and excited getting to know someone knew! Sure they are scary to put yourself out there, but think of the new things you’ll learn about someone new!
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Exciting*
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And new* haha
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Perfect!
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I totally get caught by poor self esteem and the outrageous idea that someone could like me.. like my ocd has convinced me that I don’t deserve that happiness? which then leads to a loss of attraction and avoidance:( but it’s so nice to know that other people experience the same thing, and that we are capable of moving past it!!
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Exactly!??? Like I couldn’t be in a relationship, I’m not fulfilling enough for someone else (is what happens in my brain). That EXACT thing (loss of attraction and avoidance) happened to me with the first guy that expressed a lot of interest in me. I was literally infatuated with him and then it all went down a hill of swirling anxiety when things finally started rolling. But yes. We DO deserve it!!
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Thanks! Glad I can help. :-)
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If any of you are still on this app and willing to talk to me i would love that. I am going through VERY similar situation right now 😪
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@Hopeforthefuture woah, i just got a notification of your message! this was from 2019. i’d love to talk to ya, do u wanna message on any social media?
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@leham Oh my gosh! Im glad to see you are still here! I honestly didn't think you would be haha. Would it be okay if we messaged here? My anxiety makes me scared to message anyone elsewhere where they would know more about me :( if not I understand!
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@leham I already typed out my comment bc I was so anxious so I went ahead and put it here if you'd be willing to talk on here. If not feel free to let me know that you'd rather not 😅 So basically I started dating this guy. Before going out with him at all I was ruminating like crazy and trying to figure out if we would be a good match. Now we are supposed to go on a second date tomorrow and I think I like him and want to get to know him more but my mind is making me obsess. My hocd is also going crazy saying that I wouldn't be questioning this much or this anxious if I wasn't gay. The worst part about is the fact that one of my intrusive thoughts is that I only don't want to be gay bc my family wouldn't accept it. But I've always wanted a bf and liked boys. I have only had a short relationship with one guy though and it makes it so hard bc ocd uses that as proof. The absolute worst part about it all is a year and a half ago I had a memory come in of me thinking I'm bi and then accepting it. When the memory came in it felt like I had either really accepted it or that I hadn't cared if it was true and was like "whatever" and this freaked me out when I got the memory and so I called my mom and told her I was scared to tell her what the memory was and that I felt so anxious and that I didn't want to tell her because I thought she would just say it was fake. I thought she would (since she doesn't support that) and that it would make me more anxious. I told her that I had a memory and felt like I had accepted it or didn't care and it made me so anxious I was literally shaking. Then later that day I realized that I don't think I did accept it and that it was simply an intrusive thought and that if anything I thought "well who knows I could be but I would still just date guys" but my brain is saying NO. You have to be gay now and saying that I clme out to my mom and that there is no going back and that my family wouldn't accept me. And this is all just fueling the fire for my date tomorrow as well saying that I don't even like guys and I should just not go. I can't deal with this right now and I don't know what to do. It seemed very similar to some of ehat tou guys were talking about thiygh so I thighs i would comment. Sorry for such a long reply also your puppy is so cute
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@Hopeforthefuture yes, of course i totally understand!!! i’m so sorry i’m just now seeing this!!
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@Hopeforthefuture woah. like- woah. This was actually starting to freak me out a bit while i was reading cause i SWEAR to god i could have wrote this myself…. Everything you said…literally everything. First of all, i’m so sorry I couldn’t support you the night before the date and I hope it went okay (please tell me about it). Second- holy COW girl. my family also wouldn’t accept it. i also only had a short “relationship” with one guy. my anxiety and inability to go on a date with a guy was one of the main things fueling the ocd then. and i also had a time where i came to this fake epiphany where i was Bi- difference with me was i remember feeling relieved. cause in my head, that meant I would still be allowed to marry a man and it would be okay. years later when the ocd really knocked me tf out, it used that memory as fuel as well. i ALSO called my mom to “confess” or whatever because i convinced myself that the only reason i was obsessing so hard was because i knew she wouldn’t like it, and if i told her and she was okay with it, that i would stop obsessing. i reluctantly said something about having “anxious thoughts” and wondering if she would be okay if i was gay. she was caught so off guard and was so startled she was like of course?? i’d still love you? i think she just said that to make me feel better in the moment cause she’s def still homophobic years later lol, but anyways. we are incredibly similar. it’s been a couple years now, and after starting prozac and birth control, i haven’t been as tormented as i was in 2019. i still haven’t been able to have a relationship yet, but i did get myself to go on some dates in the years since. again, i’m so sorry i missed your message, for some reason i didn’t get a notification on your second message.
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@leham Wow that's crazy that its so similar. Like what? Hahah. Glad you are feeling better. I am still really worried about the memory and sometimes I'm like no that wasn't really what happened and other times I'm like it must be. And I think what keeps triggering me is people saying things like how they suppressed stuff because of other people and it makes me worried thats what happened to me. And I just didn't want to admit it or something. It scares me so bad. And I think it keeps latching on because I love my family so much and my brain says "you're only not gay bc it would upset them, not bc you're actually straight" and so I go into ruminating. And it's horrible. I just want to be with a guy and not worry about random memories from years ago that may or may not have even happened that way you know? I'm sick of ruminating and worrying all the time and reviewing my mind. It's exhausting
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@leham Also the date did go well. I was anxious during it some but I had a good time. I don't know enough about him yet to know if it will lead to anything butat least I didn't freak out!
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@Hopeforthefuture i know exactly what you mean. i don’t know if this will help or hurt, but truly, you’ll never be able to permanently and comfortably “figure it out”. i’ve just come to realize that it doesn’t work- but that helped me really really let go. you just don’t have a hand in any of it, you know? i know you want to be sure so you don’t go down a path and then suddenly realize something, i know so much how scary that is. but the way foreword isn’t making that idea “unscary”. it’s letting all of it go anyways. it feels crazy. it feels like you’re bungee jumping and on top of that, you’re not holding onto the rope, you’re arms are totally spread. it feels exactly like that and it might make you cry or make you angry cause why can’t your life just feel like you’re walking on solid ground???? but some of us just don’t get to always have that sturdy foundation. that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get to live you know?
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@Hopeforthefuture i wrote this awhile ago and it still helps me to go back to❤️ https://www.madeofmillions.com/articles/ridiculous-ignorance-letter-to-a-friend-with-pure-ocd
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@Hopeforthefuture i’m so glad it went well! i hope you can let yourself go easily into this new adventure:)
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@leham Thank you Lehane! That was a good article! I have found that the times my ocd has bothered me the least were when I completely didn't let any thought phase me. I let them all come and I didn't treat them as truth or false, good or bad. Just thoughts. May I ask if your memory that you had still bothers you or makes you question?
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@leham Hi, I was just wondering if you saw my other comment since last time it didn't notify you
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@Hopeforthefuture hey!! yea didn’t receive a notif, sorry. it has triggered me in the past, but today, i don’t really fall into the rabbit hole anymore. i think my brain and body has just realized how useless it is, so it doesn’t respond or react as aggressively as it used to. prozac might also be playing a hand:)
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@Hopeforthefuture I hope you’re doing okay! offer still stands to chat elsewhere whenever you need support❤️ i genuinely don’t know what i would have done without the people i met on here. we helped each other through a lot.
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@leham Thank you sm! I have really appreciated your support so much. You have been really helpful 🙂 and thank you! What is the best app or social media to talk if I need to?
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@Hopeforthefuture you bet. i think i use twitter a little bit more than instagram so here’s my twitter- @leham_bekele (locked cause of potential employer, but if you ever needed to talk, just request to follow!) you are not alone❤️
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Okay, thank you so much. I’ll try my hardest. No one is gonna die it’s literally going to be fine. It will be fineeee.
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That’s such a great way to look at it. I actually love meeting people. I think it’s just the idea that the other person is supposed to like me that freaks me out. Like I can’t comprehend someone liking me. Like the true me. Honestly cause of how long I’ve had ocd. But I’ll try my best to just think about it from the perspective of just talking to a new person!
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Haha I totally understood!!
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Hello. I am on my first relationship, (and I want it to be my only!) I've been at it for nearly 2 years, and it first starting happening a few months in. When the relationship started, it felt perfect to me. We are both extremely different people, we have different taste, different humor (but we both made each other laugh!) and just a different way of talking about things, (I tend to be more analytical, while she isn't as much). But I considered these differences to be fine, I never felt like it was an issue because our core values are very similar and I consider her a very intelligent girl. We just enjoyed time together, and each other, I thought she was cute as hell, and even if she didn't talk in depth about a lot of stuff, that didn't matter, I enjoyed the quiet times with her just as much as the talkative times. When the OCD kicked in, that's when I started to question everything, I questioned if I even loved her in the first place, if our relationship was just a sham, if I even found her attractive in the first place, her intelligence, her point of view, even dumb petty stuff like "oh she likes THAT movie???". After my first major breakdown, I confessed a lot to her. At this point, I didn't even know what was going on until I started to look into it. And that's where I found ROCD. On one hand, it was satisfying to see something I could point to as "the problem", on the other hand, I think it gave me bad motivation, it reassured me that this was something that I could just try and ignore. After I cooled down from this, I once again had a long period of bliss. I had a good schedule with her. >Go to work >Hang out with her (spend the night at her place sometimes) >go home and hang out with friends I enjoyed my time with her, taking part in her interests, and her taking part in mine. She wasn't always 100% into the things that I was, and that was always a bit disappointing to me, but in the same way you'd be disappointed if your friend didn't like the thing you liked. (now I over analyze these moments and question if I did always care more about this or not) This moment of bliss would end after another huge trigger. A part of the OCD I have yet to mention is my tendency to be worried that "getting along with other people that I find attractive" is the equivalent of either cheating on my partner, or backstabbing them. There was someone at work that I found attractive and I had a moment where it felt like I may have developed a thing for them, I still don't know if it's true because I generally found them to be annoying at times. I made a joke during work, that felt like I was propping myself up to them, I still don't know my motivation behind this joke, because it feels like it could have been something that I would have joked about to anyone, but I'm still not even sure about it. Either way I basically had a panic attack and later confessed to my partner. I don't know if I should have done it, or not, because I'm to this day confused about my emotions during that situation. Regardless. She was hurt, but she forgave me. It felt like I couldn't look her in the eye and feel like a sincere person to her. After this major moment, I felt like I never recovered. I started to avoid talking to this person at work, or really many women at work at all because of the fear that I'd fall for them. When an attractive women shows up I try and end the conversation quickly, this has only created a fear for taking to people, and it's extremely stressful. I got by though. And I would continue to love my partner. Until another major breakdown. This one created a new type of numbness to my partner, that felt completely different, and it's way more convincing. I mentioned in the past that my partner and I are very different, and that we even have different ways of talking about interests. My partner very much enjoys things for what they are, there's not much analysis, and that's fine. Me (and my friends) are very analytical. Last month I was showing her a game I like, and I started to question if she was even tracking what was going on, or even understood it, I was obsessing over the idea that she didn't even care about it (even tho I know she has always taken interest in what I like). This way of thought broke my brain and it made me feel completely incompatible with her. I question my behavior when I was showing her stuff in the past, I remember moments in which I questioned if she was actually paying attention even during moments when the OCD was low. I question if she has the ability to even watch something and understand what's going on. All terrible thoughts, and all thoughts that I never want to have. I'm scared to talk to my friends half the time because the thoughts of them being more "intelligent and analytical" pulsate through my brain. My friends and I are extremely cynical, about things like the film industry and sometimes if I'm going in on something it feels like I'm shitting on her by proxy just because she doesn't care about it as much as I do. I've isolated myself from friends and I think that did worsen my condition, because when it's just only me and my partner hanging out, I feel like it started attacking her more. This is the part where it just doesn't feel like ROCD anymore. I used to not give a single shit about these things, I was able to make blanket statements like "I think TikTok sucks and it's users are annoying" knowing full well my partner uses TikTok every day. There was a separation between me making broad statements and then not necessarily being indictive of my partner SPECIFICALLY. Now it doesn't feel like I have much anxiety anymore, because it just feels like I've accepted that my partner is who she is and I "don't know if I love her" when in the past, I've accepted my partner for who she is, and I loved her anyway. I feel like I'm just not as connected to her as I once was. I used to enjoy everything with her, now my brain overanalyzes everything she does and says. I can't just relax. I feel like I've lost any amount of structure and this turned into a ramble. But I guess that's where I'm at now. I've been attempting getting proper health insurance so I can talk to someone and not break the bank. I think about the times when none of these ridiculous nitpicks didn't matter to me, and I cry about the idea of leaving her. Thank you for reading.
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I’m 25 and never ever thought this before my soocd relapse. I have a bf of 5 years. Never been a high libido kinda girl. Don’t get me wrong I do get turned on by my bf but not like every day you know? - That had always been in the back of my head, is this normal and ok? But my ocd has latched onto the most scariest what if EVER. My brain is now saying How do you know you won’t prefer to sleep and kiss girls if you haven’t tried it: and it’s that unknown that is scaring the shit out of me. I DONT AND NEVER HAVE wanted to sleep / kiss a girl. But now my intrusive thoughts is all I think about!!! I don’t want I don’t want I don’t want??? So why does my brain think BUT WHAT IF??? I know ocd thrives off uncertainty which is why I think this is happening? But I don’t wanna find out or work it out because all I want is to be with my bf and marry him!! Is this just the epitome of OCD?
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Valentine’s Day is a day to celebrate love, however if you are living with Relationship OCD (ROCD) this can be a very triggering day. Relationship OCD is essentially, the fear of being in the wrong relationship, not truly loving your partner, or not being loved by your partner. This makes you doubt the true nature of your relationship and makes you believe that your entire relationship is based on lies. It can make you feel like a bad person and not worthy of love. ROCD will make you believe that you need to leave the relationship just to find some peace. When we think about ROCD we often think that this only applies to romantic relationships, however ROCD can impact friendships and family relationships as well. ROCD will attack whatever relationship is most important to you. As an ERP therapist some of the most common obsessions that I have seen include “Is my partner ‘The One’”? “Maybe I am meant to be with someone else”. “What if my partner cheats on me or worse I cheat on him/her”? “I find X attractive. Should I break up with my partner and be with X”? “Do I even love my partner? What if they don’t love me?” This list could go on and on. The basis of all of these intrusive thoughts is fear and doubt. The compulsions associated with ROCD are vast. The most common include checking feelings to make sure you really love your partner, avoidance behaviors, reassurance seeking behaviors both from your partner and from others and ruminating on the relationship in the hopes of figuring out if this is the “right” relationship for you. ROCD, as in most theses in OCD, wants 100% uncertainty that this relationship will work out with no conflict or compromise. The problem is this is unrealistic. All relationships will have some level of conflict and compromise in them. There is no “perfect relationship”. Most of us have grown up with fairy tales where one true love will come and sweep up off our feet. Life and relationships can be messy and complicated, but they are worth it and are a key aspect of what makes us human. The fact is ROCD makes you doubt everything and will take the joy, excitement and contentment out of the relationship. The good news is that treatment is available, and it is possible to have a long, happy, fulfilling relationship despite ROCD fears. It does take time, perseverance and patience. Treatment using Exposure Response Prevention has been proven to lessen intrusive thoughts. You will learn to manage your expectations of the relationships while leaning into your fears and learning to accept the uncomfortable feelings. By doing this, you can bring joy and contentment back into you life and your relationships. I'd love to hear about how ROCD is showing up for you. Share your experiences in the comments below or ask your questions about ROCD and I will respond to them.
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