- Username
- pureolife
- Date posted
- 5y ago
Thank you for sharing that, I loved it!!!
@Brooklyn33 “A common fear related to ERP treatment is the distorted idea that accepting the presence of gay thoughts in your mind somehow leads to a likelihood of acting out gay behaviors. This OCD logic has the sufferer in a double bind in which doing compulsions feels like a way to protect oneself from becoming gay, but at the same time actually fuels the obsession about one’s sexual orientation. When someone with HOCD stops doing the compulsions, they often see this as dangerously opening the door to unwanted gayness. This is not unique to HOCD, as it is an identical frame for the Harm OCD sufferer who worries that accepting harm thoughts will lead to violence, or the contamination OCD sufferer who worries that not washing will lead to contracting a terrible disease. It is important to remember, then, that ERP for OCD always feels like you are doing something wrong. This is because what you thought was right (compulsive behavior) is actually the source of the problem.” Source: https://ocdla.com/sexual-orientation-ocd-challenges-treatment-hocd-1978
I was literally thinking this right before I saw this post...thank you!
I don't know if this is denial or not. But I usually think that when my treatment will be over, and I discover I got zero anxiety about hocd, my thoughts will be stronger and I'll accept all of this. That deep shit scares me all the way, I just want to accept uncertainty and keep living like thoughts are just thoughts but is so hard...
Wooow, thanks. I needed this. Erp and "denial" is really uncomfortable for me too. To the point that when I see a woman I fear that I feel something else more than thinking someone is pretty or whatever. That makes me really confused about what is anxiety and what is desire too. I keep trying to not answer to this but I don't know yet how to be okay yet with the internal feeling/thought that keeps telling me everything is true. Thank you again :)
This was really helpful. Thank you ♡
Okay. This HOCD and denial thing is crap. Real denial is someone acting like they’re not gay when they already know. Real denial is someone reluctance to come out, not a hidden gay version of themselves that they’ve never realized is there and are wrestling with a thought telling them it is. If you have OCD, you’re simply “denying”/rejecting a lie that the ocd is telling you. Real denial is lying about something you’ve known is true.
How detailed can thoughts be? Can it make you question if it even is OCD or just denial? I have talked to friends and therapist in the past and they have said based on everything you've told me you aren't what you think you are. And it felt like a weight had been lifted. But doubt creeps up saying "you are a pedophile, you are just in denial!" And that feeling comes in my gut followed by intense anxiety. I've heard OCD can make you question who you are as a person and I think that's what is happening now. I'll get a thought like "even if you are one, its not that bad" the I think but I don't feel like one and I've talked about this with mental health professionals in the past and they have agreed based on everything I've told them, then my mind claps back with but what if you are? It is a back and forth I get so exhausted having. I know I have to be ok with never knowing but it is hard to not want an answer because of the fear you may become your thoughts one day.
Does anyone ever get scared that they are just trying to convince themselves that it’s OCD. I have this fear that my intrusive thoughts about harm aren’t actually intrusive nor is it actually OCD and I’m actually some sort of crazy evil human being all of a sudden. As I’m writing this I can see how silly that is. Of course it’s OCD, but there is always that “what if” and it makes me scared of myself. I know that this could be considered “obsessing about obsessing,” but like I said, there is always that, “What if you are different? An anomaly.”
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