- Date posted
- 1y ago
25+ year addiction & battle with ocd
I decided to try sobriety for a change.
I decided to try sobriety for a change.
Sobriety is the drug that keeps getting better. I really mean that, way to go.
Good for you! I’ve been sober for over a year!
Good luck
If it's not too personal, how did one affect the other?
I am happy for you You are lucky. I get the feeling ocd is much more complex than we here and experts think.
Oh, wow! How do you explain that to someone? How was your first love coping with your issues? Do you have any idea what might have been the main reason for your ocd to occur the first time ever? Do you think bad events cause chemical imbalance in our brain or is it that it already exists and it represents the difference why people who have it develop ocd after bad things happen to them and those who do not have it, don't?
Good morning to you. Nice to know someone from Pittsburg. It is 4:30 pm here in Europe right now. I come from a small country bordering Italy and Austria. Steph, I will take you up on your offer if it still stands, just not today. Tomorrow around this time or a bit later. I have waisted most of the day today and I need to pull myself together now and do all I have neglected today. The chores, spending time and taking care of my 3 kids with 12 legs, and finally preparing a health meal for myself instead of eating junk food. I apologize. I really am not feeling myself today. I will be glad though if you were ready to try it tomorrow. I hope you are doing well today. Thanks. 😊
Thank you
So there is an entire ego-dystonic & ego-syntonic conversation going on in my brain. The cognitive obsessions to go out & use stem from past trauma that has not been managed & the only way to gain relief in the present from all the unprocessed information in my psyche is to compulsively drink or excessively smoke. Then I obsess over events with people to make matters worse. I refused to get any treatment because I know only I can stop the compulsions.
Basically, if ocd is a coping mechanism for what is not yet healed in my subconscious mind, the addiction is the mask I wear to cover up the critical thinker in all of this.
The ocd is why I would become addicted in the first place. For me, the bodily feeling or rush that goes along with a drug wasn't even why I was getting high in the first place. I was doing it to feed my demon & quiet the ocd. This form of instant gratification turns into quite a circumventive street. Anyway, that's kind of what it's like.
I understand that it is much more damaging to you, the drinking and smoking, but I think I can relate. I've been thinking about this for a few days now. I believe I am dealing with exactly the same scenario as you are, except instead of alcohol and smoking I use food. After your explanation there is no more doubt about it in my mind. As I have mentioned before, after running away from home I was basically starving for 2 years. I had nothing and nobody to help. I worked 2 jobs just to cover the rent and expenses. Hardly any money left for food. I can't seem to get over that period. I am constantly scared I will be left with nothing again and will have to starve again. It's been 25 years and I still can't shake the fear. My losing my company in 2019 and not being able to get a job since, doesn't help at all. That constant fear deep inside of me and always at the back of my mind. My husband's income is hardly enough just to survive the month. My fear is flourishing. It's the feul for my ocd. For 2 years 2020-2022 I depended on my husband for my meals. I had a fridge in the next room but ocd wouldn't let me touch it. My husband went to work early in the mornings, I wouldn't eat anything till he came home and cooked a meal. With my rituals I would sometimes eat late in the evening. 1x a day. For 2 years. It scares the crap out of me just thinking about it. My ocd doesn't let me be able to take care of my financial security. And without money I am sacred to death every single second of every day. And ocd keeps reminding me that I will probably go hungry again and die from hunger if I don't do what it tells me to do since it is my only true friend. I on the other side have a feeling that one day I am just going to break and die from my own hand. I am completely alone in this. Even less support from my doctors than I thought I had. I thought my husband understood ocd, found out yesterday he has no idea, I am sick and tired of my life. I think I was a God's joke to the humanity. No good for myself, my own worst enemy, and no good for others. I know it's up to me to change things, but how do you do it without support and instructions from doctors, therapists,...? Steph, how do You do it? Don't know what to do. Each day I say to myself I would not eat sweets or overeat,... And I would only eat at certain times. The second I get the feeling of hunger in my stomach, I become nervous and feel sick and I sort of fight with the feeling of panic. I need to eat to calm the fear of hunger. Hmmm. Nuts, right?
Not nuts at all. My first love got me through.
Yea, I know that's right. Especially cause ocd plays tricks on us. I am lucky to have my first love, but completely forgot we were together. Nothing personal against anyone-it's my brain & the way my mind works. Imagine that. One minute you are together with some1 & the very next your significant other does not even remember sleeping with you. It's scary stuff.
I ask myself these questions every day. My first love used humour, grace, & support systems outside of us. She was hurt by my ocd, but never once lashed out on me. I know what the main reason is for the first occurance, yes. Bad events cause ocd. I understand brain structure, chemistry & physiology have much to do with any type of bizarre behaviour, however, when something bad does happen, our mind tries to protect us, thus this releases chemicals in our brain. Chemical imbalance @ birth or not-Ocd is a coping mechanism that causes our disorder. We can take medication &/or change our syntax in the way we think as to create new core belief systems; We just simply cannot tap into that part unless we identify we have a problem. So with a historical context & social construct already in place (for instance was there prior brain injury, chemical imbalance or instances of bullying, public humiliation, & domestic abuse) what would empirical evidence say? In other words, how self-aware are the people who supposedly don't have it?
Yeah! Nice thinking! Your first love sounds like a very kind and loving person. Do you think that our mind dictates the occurrence of ocd because it sees it as the protecting mechanism that will keeps us safe? Do you ever get the feeling, even just for a second, that you are happy ocd is present? It feels like a reliable and faithful friend. But just like in real life people's good intentions can be your stepping stones to hell, so ocd is trying to protect us with good intentions but for all the wrong reasons and in wrong ways. Ways that hurt us more than any ocd fear ever could. I don't know if it makes sense. Well in the end, an individual is better off without such friends and so is the ocd also unwelcome. Does Erp work for you? Have you tried it? How did you explain to your first partner and the present one what ocd is and why it is so hard to fight it? As a man, what would be the best way to explain it to you, so you would understand the illogical in a logical way, if you were an ocd free man? I need to find a way to explain it to my husband in a ocd for dummies kind of way but with information about my subtype that goes way beyond the checking, counting, washing hands,.. If you were my husband and you knew I was going through personal hell which affected you also, but you didn't quite understand why I don't just forget about it or dismiss the fears, how would your loved one need to approach you, what to say for you to finally fully grasp that it is a disorder, a disease and not just my personality quirk? If you answer that for me, I will be so grateful, I will send you the biggest hug and kiss on the cheek ever. By the way, how are you today? I went for a walk earlier. Forced myself to. And I did just over 10000 steps or 7,1 kms. I am beat now, but I feel proud of myself for going. I am glad you are here with us at NOCD. 🤗😊
1) no 2) no 3) yes 4) yes 5) I did not explain 6) I don't know I can explain..
Way to go❤️ I am well, right now. Thanks for asking. Let's just say for the sake of conversation I am your husband. I would need you to approach me as you.
Thanks. Ok. But let's find the time to do so at an hour that suits us both. I was awake till 3 hours and 40 min ago, which makes it 3 am here. 8 have just woken up, and it's 6:40h am now. I am soooo sleepy. I will try to get an hour or 2 more of sleep. When I am up again, I'll let you know. And we'll see if you are up at the same time and if you have the time. Or you'll tell me when it is OK for you. I font know where you're from and what the time difference is... For the time bring... Good night.
Sounds good. I live in Pittsburgh, PA where it is 9:15 am
Absolutely. Enjoy your day.
Thank you. The same back at you.
So it must be 4:48 en el dio de manana? Are you in Slovanai or Switzerlen? I see what you mean by conflicting times, now. I understand-not feeling like yourself.
Does anyone else use substances to escape your OCD spiral? A few years ago I never would have dreamed of it, until my OCD flared up during 2020. Now I use cannabis to calm my brain down which is dangerous for me as its 50/50 it'll calm me down or make me panic or will push me down the existential rabbit hole. Alcohol is a big one for me, too. Was asked to admit I was an alcoholic this year. Unfortunately, also a symptom of my OCD. When the guilt and paranoia is this extreme, I'd rather take the 50/50 chance than still in this deadly cycle. I might delete this if it causes me too much paranoia, but this is my first post here and I'm happy to meet all of you.
Hi I kept seeing this app on repeat on TikTok over and over and I thought I give it a shot. I have never been diagnosed with OCD but I know that I have it. I’m a young adult and I found out the first time I had OCD was watching lelelons truth video? I was 14 at the time She had to resist sitting back down in a chair after her having sat down she started having a mental break down when she was told to resist. That’s when I knew. It started with myself going up and down a staircase twice buckling unbuckling my seat belt everytime I’m in the car ect I have always been super anti social but trying my best I can socialize but my mind wants to make it sexual with family and friends ughhhh I hate it because that’s not me when I graduated thoughts of hurting my loved ones corrupted my mind I broke down outside of church one time asking if this was really me or not i question if I’m a good enough friend or person in this world to begin with thinking everyone is judging me so so close how can I make this situation better did I do something wrong I struggle with depression as well not to bad but it’s there I come from a loving family but broken as well i believe in god and my OCD makes me go often he’s not real that stuff isn’t real no one is there to save you the list goes on. Anyway I struggle a lot and I really hope that this will help me because I feel extremely hopeless. Lucky for me I do have the ability to seek therapy and I am excited. The only person I ever tell my thoughts to is God no other human has heard so I’m really really hoping this helps me out if your reading this thank you it means a lot because this is my first time ever admitting all this it’s a lot to take in I know and I hope you are ok and that you have a great night and know that we got this
Looking back, I realize I’ve had OCD since I was 7. though I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 30. As a kid, I was consumed by fears I couldn’t explain: "What if God isn’t real? What happens when we die? How do I know I’m real?" These existential thoughts terrified me, and while everyone has them from time to time, I felt like they were consuming my life. By 12, I was having daily panic attacks about death and war, feeling untethered from reality as depersonalization and derealization set in. At 15, I turned to drinking, spending the next 15 years drunk, trying to escape my mind. I hated myself, struggled with my body, and my intrusive thoughts. Sobriety forced me to face it all head-on. In May 2022, I finally learned I had OCD. I remember the exact date: May 10th. Reading about it, I thought, "Oh my God, this is it. This explains everything." My main themes were existential OCD and self-harm intrusive thoughts. The self-harm fears were the hardest: "What if I kill myself? What if I lose control?" These thoughts terrified me because I didn’t want to die. ERP changed everything. At first, I thought, "You want me to confront my worst fears? Are you kidding me?" But ERP is gradual and done at your pace. My therapist taught me to lean into uncertainty instead of fighting it. She’d say, "Maybe you’ll kill yourself—who knows?" At first, it felt scary, but for OCD, it was freeing. Slowly, I realized my thoughts were just thoughts. ERP gave me my life back. I’m working again, I’m sober, and for the first time, I can imagine a future. If you’re scared to try ERP, I get it. But if you’re already living in fear, why not try a set of tools that can give you hope?
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