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- 6y
- Date posted
- 6y
Feelings are not facts. Remind yourself of this each time. “I’m feeling X. But that does not make X true.” There are two cognitive distortions at play here: emotional reasoning (thinking something must be true because you “feel” it so strongly) and magnifying (exaggerating the importance of something). When this happens, label the distortion and see if you can come up with a more reasonable assessment of the thought you’re struggling with. “I feel X very strongly right now. But the strength of this feeling doesn’t make it any more or less true.” And “This thought makes me think X must be true. But one does not necessarily lead to the other. They could be related. Or they could not.”
- Date posted
- 6y
Here’s an example of throught restructuring vs reassurance Thought: “I am feeling X very strongly right now so it must be true.” Reassurance: “I just did a bunch of internet research that confirms X is in fact 100% not true. Now I can finally relax.” (Relaxation lasts briefly...) “I’m feeling X super strongly again, what if that means Y is true instead...” **seeks more reassurance online** repeat. Through restructuring: “I am feeling X very strongly right now, and that makes me want to believe it’s true. But that is emotional reasoning. The strength of this feeling doesn’t make it any more or less true. I am uncertain what’s true and I accept that.” **sits with anxiety until it naturally subsides**
- Date posted
- 6y
It’s not reassurance to remind yourself that your feelings/thoughts may not be true. It would be reassurance to try to prove to yourself that they are 100% false.
- Date posted
- 6y
Anytime your OCD says, “X might be true” say “yeah, maybe! But maybe not.” If you start believing it (ie “it feels so real, it must be true!”) restructure the thought (ie “hey that’s emotional reasoning! I’m feeling X strongly, but that doesn’t make it true or false. I can’t be certain based on this feeling and I accept that.”)
- Date posted
- 6y
Allow them to come. Do not push, that is the biggest mistake and struggle that you will not be able to overcome yet. Allow them to come.
- Date posted
- 6y
Thank you!! Does this count as self reassuring?
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- 6y
Thought** restructuring
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- 6y
Thank you! So with the whole uncertainty thing...what if I know for sure the thoughts aren’t real, how would uncertainty play into that? Like I know it’s not real and it’s just my ocd but my ocd continues to tell me it might be true...?
- Date posted
- 6y
Your original post said that these thoughts feel real to you, you’re attaching meaning to them, and they’re causing you distress. So it doesn’t sound to me like you know for sure they’re not real, or you’d just let them pass and not care about them. Uncertainty is how you fight that nagging doubt that they “might” be true that makes you do compulsions to be sure.
- Date posted
- 6y
Gotcha thank you!!
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- Date posted
- 24w
Common posts on here are "i had a thought" "why am i thinking this" "what if" and these are all OCDs way of making you doubt yourself while taking you round and round in never ending circles at the same time. Regardless of the theme you are facing, there is no "figuring out" or "making sense" of a thought, because it isn't a real situation - it's a passing word or image or scenario without any meaning attached. You can't control your thoughts and the more you "don't want to have them" the more they will appear. For instance, tell yourself not to think about "apples", it will be the first thing that comes to your mind, because that's just how our minds work. Once you categorise a thought as "bad", every time it comes into your mind, your anxiety level will go up and this makes the thought seem real. Because if it "Feels" this bad, surely it must mean something or must have happened - But none of this is true. All we have to do is naturally notice thoughts as they come up, and rather than try to assess or ruminate over the content, we can almost shrug them off. It's the only way to accept thoughts as simply thoughts and nothing more. Anxiety drives the intense feeling and the more attention you give to thoughts, the more power they have over you. No random thought can change your real intentions. OCD is never ever satisfied, so the only way forward is to accept the uncertainty of never knowing "for sure" and to class the unwanted thought as irrelevant. OCD says "quick..bad thought..feels horrible.. what does it mean.. fix it". But in reality there is nothing bad here or nothing to be fixed, it's a false alarm. Once you learn to respond to a thought calmly by working on anxiety, it gets easier over time. It's your perception of your thoughts that needs to change, you believe they mean something about you, but random things pop into our heads all the time - both things we like and things we don't. OCD also latches onto what we care about most and it always comes with a feared consequence, so think about what yours is, e.g "what happens if my worst fear comes true" you can then practice imaginal exposure which is imagining your worst case scenario over and over until you become desensitised to it and no longer fear it - therapists use this technique in sessions. Everyone in the world has thoughts, the thoughts are not the issue, you just get more of what you focus on, up until the point that you can change your attitude towards the thought. If I asked you if you went upstairs today you would have an answer straight away, however if I asked you a question related to your OCD theme, your anxiety would increase and you would doubt yourself, because that's OCD doing the thinking for you. Once you give it less power it becomes a less significant part of your day. It's so easy to give into compulsions as they feel like a "quick fix".. but as I mentioned, ocd is never happy, which is why it wants us to continue to check and seek reassurance. Once you start reducing and gradually stopping compulsions, whether this is rumination, checking, or a physical action (whatever you falsely believe is "keeping you safe" from your feared consequence) you will see it's not necessary to do them, and that the time consuming little things you have taught yourself to do have no effect on what actually happens in real life. Thoughts prompt feelings and feelings prompt actions - meaning - thoughts cause anxiety and anxiety drives unnecessary actions. As a side note, I overcame contamination ocd (I was in a very very bad way and now the theme doesn't bother me anymore). I still have OCD and it can affect me slightly at times, but i can manage it in a way that it doesn't interfere with my day and without the need to carry out compulsions. Please practice, because I promise it helps, it's super scary at first and extremely difficult but the end result is worth it. ERP therapy is also very helpful.
- Date posted
- 21w
I need advice for intrusive thoughts. I used to feel like I could handle them. They weren’t nearly as bad as the things that related to my actual life. But now, I’m suffering. I haven’t had a sexual experience in over a year that didn’t involve constant intrusive thoughts. Most are somehow related to kids and I keep chasing off the thoughts but it’s so bad. I know you’re supposed to ignore them but I don’t know how I can just ignore that and continue what I’m doing. But they’re coming on stronger. I had one earlier I could not get rid of just as things finished so the thought came on strongly just before my orgasm hit and now I feel absolutely disgusting. I hated the thought and I know it’s not me and it was not enjoyable but it still feels like I was getting off to it. I feel sick. I’m so fucking tired of these thoughts. They’re in my every day life too and it’s all the time. I just want it to stop but ignoring it feels so wrong. What should I do?
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- 18w
does anyone has any tips how to stop the "what if cycle"?? i have very disturbing what if thoughts on daily basis and they're rlly scary always. i know they're not real but sometimes they feel so real and possible to happen and i hate this
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