Ruminate

@zyanya Real amazing thanks

@zyanya Is it ruminating if I’m picturing convos and real things as my eyes are closed but I’m not asleep?

@drak4 Do you mind explaining what that is ?

@Hannahs20 CAS - cognitive attentional syndrome is strategy of thinking we apply sometimes consciously sometimes automatically - but it is about treat monitoring in external or internal enviroment, worrying about future, thinking about past... MCT therapy says this thinking style is maladaptive and can worsen mental ilness...core of MCT tells that people recover naturally by time when they do not block they recovery with this maladaptive thinking strategy CAS... MCT therapy wanna adress core believes that leads to CAS, for exaple 1. "If i would worry I will be prepared" 2. "If i would overanalyze i will find answer" 3. "If i will ruminate my bad thoughts will go away" ...we believe these things and also others that is a reason we use this thinking style...but when we see truth, that this thinking style is worsening situation not helping we can change these believes about thinking ti better ones... believes about thinking - it is called metacognition... thinking about thinking ... MCT says that people without mental inless also have bad content in mind - for example intrusive thoughts, but relate to them with better strategies... not with ruminating/CAS ... metacognitive says that a problem is not what you think, but HOW you think...what thinking patters you have... so it is about reduction of CAS/ruminating...it uses CBT techniques, but also attention control... for example one exercise is have 3 voice channels at once and train focusing only on one, or switch between them...if teaches mind that it can control attention, so when inteusive thoughts came you can refocus better, because you trained your mind to do so... if it sound interesting try find some books about it... there is not yet much material about it, but to me it helped... always when i start ruminate I adress my false believes "rumination helps" and tell truth that it worsen situation and instead focus on something else...I combining it with ACT...it great combination...

@drak4 with ACT i refocus on my values and present moment

@crazyfeelings What about just saying I have a choice to not engage? Or should I say nothing at all and move on? I’m my worse at night as I imagine things, convos etc lol I started meds today and have practiced all day to read, watch movies and to not engage or allow myself to panic which I felt

@Hannahs20 yes say whatever you think works!! I also think saying things like “i make the choices in my life if i didn’t want to be with my s/o i wouldn’t”. If you make it seem unimportant it really will become unimportant. I had sexuality ocd before ROCD and I got over it just by doing that! Don’t let ocd hold you back, do the things your scared of it helps to continue living as usual even though these thoughts are like the PLAGUE

@crazyfeelings Yes mine attack my values with my daughter & then thinking the worse to every show or what I’m staring at or noticing body parts on women before men etc which is weird cause it’s never bothered me lol but I’m ignoring it and focusing on what I’m doing or whatever and I guess I’ve always had ROCD but just thought it was from bad relationships.

@Hannahs20 Yeah OCD sucks so bad. It’s very hard to even tell what thoughts are OCD sometimes. I hope the best for your recovery❤️

@crazyfeelings Thank you! I hope that also for yours. Do you feel you’ve been able to navigate through yours a lot easier now with ERP?

@Hannahs20 I actually haven’t done a lot of ERP with my ROCD yet. But with sexual orientation ocd I felt so much better after ERP. But with ROCD i’ve struggled because it being with someone i love so much has made it hard for me to be strong and ignore.