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How do I know if my thoughts are real or just ocd
How do I know if my thoughts are real or just ocd
Here's my opinion on this: there isn't really any such thing as an "OCD thought" vs a "real thought." All thoughts are just thoughts. They come from the same parts of the brain. Although we talk about OCD as if it's separate from us and is "feeding" us these thoughts (like, "my OCD always tries to tell me xyz"), what OCD really is, is our tendency to resist our thoughts and anxiety through compulsive behavior. OCD is the craving for certainty, and the desire for thoughts and anxiety to go away. It isn't really the thoughts themselves. If we worry about whether or not a thought is "OCD," we're reinforcing this idea that thoughts are important and that they mean something about us. We get stuck in this belief that if a thought is "mine," then it is true and real, and if a thought is "OCD" then its false and fake. Personally I don't think this is very helpful. Again, all thoughts are just thoughts. The brain spits out thousands and thousands of thoughts per day (I think I heard somewhere that the amount of thoughts that run through our mind per day is enough to fill 10 novels). We don't notice the vast majority of those thoughts. The only ones we notice are the ones that we care about for one reason or another. When people talk about "OCD thoughts," generally what they really mean are intrusive thoughts. In other words, unwanted thoughts that keep coming back. Intrusive thoughts aren't exclusive to OCD; everyone gets them from time-to-time. People with OCD just get them more often because we fuel the cycle with compulsions. Any thought has the potential to be intrusive. You can generally tell that it's an intrusive thought by the fact that you are bothered by it and it keeps coming back. They generally have something to do with YOU, or at least make you worried about what they mean about YOU. We have to be careful about black and white thinking. A thought isn't always false because it's intrusive, and a thought isn't always true if it isn't intrusive. The more we try to analyze and try to "solve" these things, the more these thoughts will pester us. Always remember, "maybe, maybe not." There's a reason so much of OCD recovery is about embracing uncertainty.
How do make my thoughts less negative?
@Anonymous - Have you looked into ERP therapy before? It's the type of therapy considered to be the most effective for OCD, where you learn to sit with unwanted thoughts and anxiety. Over time those thoughts will eventually come up less often, but that shouldn't be your immediate goal. When we try to force thoughts away, or force them to change, we only reinforce the cycle. Look up the "Ironic Process Theory" by Daniel Wegner, which states that when we try to *not* think a certain thought, all that does is put us on high alert for that thought, which primes the brain to bring it up more often. Instead of making your negative thoughts less negative, try focusing your attention on thoughts that are already positive. Allow the negative thoughts to come and go. You don't have to do anything about them. When you do get caught up in a negative thought, simply acknowledge it, and then turn your attention to something else. That can be a positive thought, or it can be your physical sensations or surroundings. For instance if a thought makes you feel anxious, acknowledge it, and then turn your attention to your body and notice what it feels like to be anxious. Just notice how it physically feels without adding any additional thoughts or stories on top of it. Treat it like a research experiment, where you are learning what anxiety feels like in your particular body. Even if you get a thousand negative thoughts, just keep acknowledging and then focusing your attention elsewhere. Your goal is to learn that it's okay for negative thoughts to arise as long as you don't grasp onto them or resist them. They will come and they will go, just like how the thought of what you want to eat for dinner comes and goes. It's about non-engagement. Over time, because you aren't paying so much attention to these thoughts, they will arise less often. But that won't happen until you accept that they're there in the first place, and that you can continue living your life despite them being there.
@djflorio I never done erp because it hard finding a therapist
@Anonymous - It is hard :( NOCD has therapists covered under a wide array of health insurances if you have it. Otherwise you can check Zocdoc or Psychology Today. If you're unable to afford a therapist, there are a lot of free videos about ERP online. The YouTube channel called "OCD and Anxiety" has a lot of content you can watch.
Sometimes you don’t know and have sit with uncertainty. But if it relates your ocd themes, feels like an emergency ( high stress and anxiety) even though it is not, does not fully or make sense…. It safe to guess it is ocd.
I’ve been thinking a lot about how OCD changes the way we see ourselves, but I recently realized that I am not my thoughts. Just because a thought pops up doesn’t mean it’s true or that it defines me. I’ve started learning how to see OCD for what it is—just a disorder trying to trick me—and I’ve become stronger in dealing with it. Has anyone else here had a similar realization? How do you handle these thoughts when they show up?
Does anyone have any advice for how to know the difference between ocd and real feelings/thoughts? Sometimes an intrusive thought will come in and I immediately know it’s ridiculous and I can just leave it alone and it won’t bother me but other times I really really don’t know. It’s when ocd hijacks and twists my real feelings and thoughts and tries to manipulate me into believing they’re something they’re not or something that doesn’t align with my true morals or intentions. But since it’s twisting and mixing with real feelings I get so confused and scared. Everything gets jumbled and I feel like I can’t trust myself or my own mind. Yet other times and other topics I can laugh off and push away just fine. Make it make sense. And then I start to think well maybe I don’t have ocd at all and I’m just in denial because I don’t want to accept that these scary/concerning things are true about myself. Or maybe that’s just the ocd talking.
Can ROCD make your thoughts and feelings feel 100% true or real???? Like I can have a thought or feeling and in that moment it feels real or should it not feel real until the ocd latches onto it?
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