Accepting uncertainty feels like I'm accepting my intrusive thoughts (that I know are false) as truth. Does anyone else deal with this thought and have any tips to avoid thinking this? (I know it's my OCD telling me this so I can continue ruminating and "proving intrusive thoughts wrong", but it's a thought that makes me feel like ERP will make things worse)

Accepting the uncertainty is accepting your thoughts have a possibility of being true. That we don’t know 100%. That we can’t know anything 100%. Its hard and it will make you more anxious at first, but it will get easier.

So you're not accepting the thoughts as your true beliefs, you are accepting that the thoughts are there big difference

@E-T everyone feels that way about their obsessions. People who are frightened of hurting people, people who are frightened they’re in the wrong relationship. Everyone, including me when I first started, goes “What? That can’t be right! I don’t want to accept that.” But we have to accept that we don’t know 100%. We cannot walk into anywhere and go “I absolutely WILL NOT wet myself/ get germs on my hands/ say the wrong thing” Its the search for certainty that’s tying you in knots here, not the obsession. ALL obsessions are the same, regardless of content.

Good discussion here?

Thanks you guys! So I'm thinking it'll help me to reframe it like "I accept the uncertainty that my intrusive thoughts are giving me" (because my intrusive thoughts mostly involve tacking on something terrible to a real memory rather than a feeling I'll do something in the future, so just flat out saying I accept uncertainty makes me doubt my memory even further sometimes, if that makes sense).

I think what I'm gathering from the discussion is that accepting the uncertainty doesn't mean accepting that it will happen (and trust me I was confused too because it sounded counterintuitive but I think that's the nature of ERP). What it means is that your OCD is intensely afraid that it MIGHT (or MIGHT have) happen(ed), so you need to expose your mind to that uncertainty (and actively resist compulsions, whether they're mental or physical) to become less afraid of that POSSIBILITY so it is no longer an obsession.

@TabbyKitty thanks for your advice :-). It’s something I’m really gonna have to get my head around as admitting I can’t be 100% certain I’m not gonna wet myself seems terrifying. I completely see how the need for 100% certainty hasnt helped but that “what if” surely is that not fuelled by the uncertainty in the first place..? I’m really confused or perhaps a little brain locked at the moment

I too am confused as my ocd manifests as a fear of wetting myself. The idea of accepting this may happen seems completely the wrong way to go about things...

But maybe @TabbyKitty and @Wes could explain better than I could

Shoot I deal with that thought too but I didn’t know it could be OCD.