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I can only repeat what the others said: please don't read this masterdoc! I read it about a year ago and I almost have ptsd from the panic and anxiety that I felt in every part of my body, it literally brought me to the lowest point in my history with SOOCD.. before reading the doc I was even ok with the thought of maybe being bisexual and doing really good but the masterdoc made everything so much worse and even to this day the sentences pop up in my head and get stuck 🙈 I would also recommend to install a siteblocker and block reddit from all your devices. It will save you from a whole lot of bad triggers and prevent you from compulsively seeking reassurance.. I only blocked reddit a few weeks ago and it made things a lot better. Reddit never really helped me, sometimes it gave me reassurance, which felt good but is contraproductive, and much more often it would trigger me into spiralling and keep me from focusing..
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omg u guys are scaring me haha- im really curious about what it is and i feel like the curiosity will linger until i read it, but u guys are saying it’s rly bad so i won’t. i don’t even know what it’s about but it sounds really bad. i can’t help but feel like that’s going to show me the truth and not letting myself read it means i’m supressing my sexuality, so that’s hard to get over. i’ll delete reddit from my phone now
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hey im so triggered by the masterdoc could u help me plz? just like you it brought me to the absolute lowest point in my life. i read so many reddit posts that made me go crazy and now im so convinced. im so scared. i just want to me sure i will be in love w a man and marry one
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@princess🧚🏼♀️ I am sorry you are going through this! I remember the day vividly I read it, I was feeling so scared and hopeless. Right know you somehow have to try to stop seeking for reassurance or to stop researching. Block reddit from your devices, you see where it got you, make sure you don't go there anymore at least for the foreseeable future. Hang in there and know that this too will pass even if you feel so uncertain now. I've had this meltdown about a year ago and nothing has changed about my sexuality. I am still with my boyfriend and we are happy both emotionally and sexually. I can not say for sure that I am 100 % hetero but I don't have to know. We have to let go of the need for certainty if we want to get better. Try to stop figuring this out, you wont find a satisfying answer anyway and you will feel better every day.
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@thinkingismyfighting thank you so much 💗i appreciate you so much. could i talk to you ? i feel like i have no one who understands to talk about this to. im currently in online classes but i cannot stop shaking and crying or focus. if u have instagram could we talk ? i would greatly appreciate it. if you dont feel comfortable i completely understand we could just talk here
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@thinkingismyfighting i remember reading the masterdoc like 4 months ago i went crazy for like 3 days i couldnt even stand up or see clearly. i was so fully convinced... there are ao many signs that i relate to. also the fact tht i’m a virgin and have never had a bf does not help at all :( if anything it makes it worse bc i remember guys i liked asking me out and i would try finding randome excuses. i didnt want a bf and still tell myself i would want a bf in the future, but not now. i feel like its too much pressure bc i get so nervous/shy/uncomfortable around them and i feel like i would have too much pressure. sorry if im not making any sense im just typing while having an anxiety attack
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also the reddit pages like latebloomerlesbians n comphet etc absolutely RUINED ME and fxcked me up. i dont know who i am anymore. i just want to know for sure that i will marry a man i will fall so deeply in love with.
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@princess🧚🏼♀️ We can talk here, I would like to keep my Instagram separate as it is connected with so many "official" accounts of mine 🙈 are you still in school or do you take classes for university? Is there someone to meet up with today? Like not to talk about your anxiety but rather to distract you? I found it helpful if I had to force myself to go out meeting someone who had no idea about what I was going through bc I had to keep it together. It is hard to get yourself up though if you are feeling so low already, I know that. Try to accept that today is just going to be shitty. The urge triggered by the masterdoc will not subside so quickly it will probably take a few hours. Just try to not feed it anymore by searching further and reassuring yourself. Tomorrow will be better, it won't seem as important anymore as it does today. After all the doc is just a list of words typed on a piece of paper, nothing more and nothing less. You get to choose how much meaning you apply to them.
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@princess🧚🏼♀️ Been there 🙈 just don't go on reddit anymore, even for different reasons, the risk of derailing and ending up spiralling is too high. These threads may be helpful if you know/think that you are a lesbian/bi and you want to find support/compassion by others and feel better through that support. It is not helpful with anxiety or OCD and intrusive thoughts or the need to prove yourself that you are not. Cutting out reddit completely improved my well-being tremendously. And I don't think this is avoidance behaviour because reddit never played a role in my life before my obsessions kicked in. It is a tool to do compulsions with that often leads to even more questioning/anxiety.
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@thinkingismyfighting thank you so much i appreciate it so much 💗 i just cannot think clearly i feel like i’ve forgotten any proof that i liked boys. im still in school, im still 16. but im just scared that i only like the idea of being w a guy and fantasize about that, but wont enjoy the reality becauset i read its a sign and i have no experience. it just feels so real and it has convinced me. did u also feel convinced ? :(
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@thinkingismyfighting my mom was asking if we could go to dinner tonight w the family, but i told her i dont feel ok. i wanna talk to her about it but she just doesnt understand hocd, she thinks its silly. but im just so down
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@thinkingismyfighting when i think of boys i like, i get this warm and fuzzy feeling, i also blush sometimes in front of cute boys (but apparently it means absolutely nothing) i also get so nervous around them. but im scared because i would always avoid dating them. i felt like i wasn’t ready and had so much i needed to improve about myself, i have such low self esteem and always seek validationfrom guys, im scared thats the only reason. i feel like i’ve convinced myself i like them but dont actually. sorry if im being annoying i just feel so alone
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@princess🧚🏼♀️ I remember feeling similar at your age. I don't think it is that uncommon. I also used to hugely admire older girls or female celebrities and to a certain extent I still do, I just seem to connect and identify with women more. The masterdoc made me obsess about those things again like hell. Does that mean that I am a lesbian in denial? Maybe, maybe not, no one knows for sure because you cannot really pin down sexuality on those things. When I try to reassure myself that I love sex with my bf and always fantasized about sex with guys there are also some points in the document that ruined even that "security" for me (e.g. being aroused by power imbalances or being more submissive I bed etc .) That is what makes sexuality such an excellent topic for intrusive thoughts because no one can give us a safe answer about that. All I know is that obsessing and anxiety doesn't take us anywhere. The doc has no scientific truth value of any kind, it's just words/assumptions with no scientific source or proof.
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@thinkingismyfighting thank you so much. i calmed down a bit i took a walk and i feel better
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@princess🧚🏼♀️ I am glad you feel better! You'll be fine, stay away from reddit and try to focus on real life. Fake it till you make it, we've got this 💪
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@thinkingismyfighting thank you 💗i feel much better. and YES we’ll get over it we’re so strong ;)
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Dude stop I saw an earlier post of something like this and it got me a little. It scares you because once again you’re worried that you’ve been lying to yourself. Try to keep your compulsions check and stop reading so much about other people and their sexuality. Regular rules don’t apply to us when our mind doesn’t even work the same. You’ll be ok just keep your compulsions in check and do some practice ERP.
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please don’t look up the masterdoc. it will trigger you so much and i don’t want you to go through something bad:( speaking from experience.
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is it like a list of things that prove your a lesbian ?
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@zeep actually nvm i don’t want to know haha
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Please trust me reading the masterdoc fucked me up so much. Please don’t do it it’s not worth it. It triggered me so badly I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I don’t want you to go through that
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i know, it scares me, but i feel like i’m denying my sexuality if i don’t let myself read it. i’m not going to though.
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Good. I’ve read it and trust me it’s not worth it. You’re not denying your sexuality by not reading it but you are putting your mental health first because I’m pretty sure it’d make you feel 10x worse. I think it’s kinda delayed my recovery too because it’s given me way too much to think about that I never even considered before. I hope you’re doing ok
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Get offline for awhile. It sounds like you are struggling a lot to resist an internet research compulsion and that’s very understandable. Keep resisting. And remember: resisting compulsions isn’t “denying your sexuality,” it’s making the right decision for your ocd. If you were gay, no amount of internet research or internet avoidance could change that. It would just be. Resist these compulsions because they are harming you and fueling your ocd. Doing them won’t make your sexuality more clear, it will make it less.
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You really just got on my ass. My girlfriend saw your comment said you read me like a book 😂. You’re absolutely right though because I have researching a lot and watching a lot of videos. I’m gonna take your advice and slowly distance myself from the internet all together. I’m gonna continue to work out though at the gym and go out. Is there any more advice you have about acceptance and these thoughts? I appreciate it a lot honestly 😂 I’m glad you responded honestly
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thank you- today’s been hard but hopefully tomorrow’s a better day :)
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@zeep Wait so have you done therapy?
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@Lost Mexico 00 no haha i was replying to pureolife. have you?
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@zeep Ohh no sorry mistook the notification for another one
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I know a few of you saw my posts about my ERP and the googling urges. That didn’t end up going well. My therapist actually decided we needed to halt it for now. The thing is it’s almost like I learned googling is harmless from those few exercises and my brain keeps generating more things to google. Normally I would just spiral and be done but now I can barely hold back from searching for long. I eventually give in. I’m horrified because it feels like I want to find illegal content. I swear on everything I am, I don’t want to find anything even close to it. I’m freaking out because I don’t understand what’s happening. I keep compulsively searching/testing/checking or idk. I keep remembering details and I feel like I need to google again to be sure of something. I feel absolutely insane can someone please help me??? I’m petrified I’m going to get in trouble.
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Idk what else to title this. I was watching a film cooper video cuz why not and he mentioned smthn about wall paper customization and icons and stuff and I just kinda had a groinal response followed by the memory of me having my first crush on a woman (my friend at the time) that helped me figure out that I’m bi and I felt kinda intensely for her but that’s cuz a) it was new and b) we were kinda on again off again friends who haven’t spoken in a few years now and I’m over her entirely. It was toxic I think. She was too much like the person who bullied me in elementary school (they were friends as well so my mom made me cut her off which is. Fair. Made me really sad but eh that’s life) I saw her at prom cuz someone brought her. It was nice to see her but yeah that was it. And now I’m mentally comparing what I felt for women in the past (idk intense crush, listening to a lot of gay songs (think she by dodie) dressing semi masc cuz funky, we had nicknames for each other despite not dating or anything) to men (less intense crush but still big crush, I’ve only dated and kissed men so sparks rhere) and now I’m just slightly nauseous and worried that I don’t like men as much as I like women but I think that’s normal for any bi person? To have different levels of attraction to different genders? Idk I feel gross and icky now like I shouldn’t even be thinking about it or her cuz I have a bf. And I do look fondly upon it, now I’m nervous cuz I got more excited about her calling me a specific nickname than I do from my bf calling me honey even at the beginning? Honey felt more traditional and I love it but we do switch around nicknames and it’s always nice, not many butterflies anymore, and sometimes I get anxious when he does lately, if it’s a nickname in Portuguese. Or if he called me a shortened version of my name. What does that mean? I’m nervous now. I was doing half decently today now I’m nauseous again. I’m worried that cuz I liked the nicknames she and I had that means I don’t like the ones my bf and I have and that I just don’t like him or men cuz I’ve been feeling off around him. But I love when he calls me honey, it still feels good when he does it now but no butterflies. Idk what’s wrong with me. Is it even ocd at this point. Even if I do like women slightly more it doesn’t erase that I love my bf. I’m worried I’m leaning too much towards women tho and I’m a lesbian. Idk if my bi cycle is cycling or if I’m just a lesbian entirely cuz I don’t feel much when my bf takes off his shirt, sex feels different, and things feel stale and slow. But maybe that’s cuz I’m checking and comparing. Now I’m anxious fuck. I’m trying not to think about her idk why. I’m worried I still find her attractive or am attracted to her or smthn. She’s in my city. I didn’t care before but now I do. Or if I think about her I’ll think about other women and will only want to have sec with women which not really tbh. I wanna be able to enjoy sec with my bf. It just hasn’t felt right lately cuz I’ve been so depressed and obsessive. I wasn’t obsessing much last night when we had sex but it still didn’t feel passionate. It didn’t feel uncomfortable but I thought it’d be more? Idk. I know it’s normal to not feel him inside me cuz the vagina isn’t very nerved up compared to the clitoris but it felt like more the motions. But tbh. I needed it. Idk I wanted to have sex and it was a nice stress relief. I just didn’t feel butterflies which kinda bummed me out but we’ve been having sex since august so that’s normal. Idk. I haven’t been able to fantasize about sex. The fact that I’m bi makes all of this so confusing. Cuz yes hypothetically I can enjoy the thought of sex with a woman. But I don’t want to rn cuz I’m dating a man. And I can’t fantasize about sex with him cuz I’m getting intrusive thoughts about my friends and I having sex. I have this urge to watch porn cuz it’s been a while but I’m not going to. I’ve cut down a lot on masturbation. Partially cuz this partially cuz I wanna do things with my bf (when I’m mentally ok) but jow my brain is saying “Oo you think all these women are so hot you’re gonna go feral blah blah blah” and yes women are hot but I don’t wanna have sex with a woman. Idk saying women are hot doesn’t bring me anxiety but the thought of sex with one or leaving my bf and saying I’m a lesbian bother me. Cuz I know it’s not true. I love him I know that. I’d be happy if we stayed together. I wouldn’t regret a thing honestly. I like having sex with him. Idc if it’s not like porn or the movies. As long as I’m being pleasured and he’s being pleasured we’re good. That’s what sex is about. I think the loss of butterflies is normal cuz the excitement of like (sorry tmi) fingering and oral eventually wears off right? But still feels good. I don’t feel as excited about intimacy anymore cuz we have done it so often but it still feels nice. But my brain perceives that as me not liking sex with men and therefore I’m gay. No I just don’t feel the need to jump his bones every single time I see him?? Idk the friend thing is bothering me. Idk if I feel any joy behind it. The groinal response really really throws my perception off
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- 18w
Sorry long post. Anyone feel like now they’re just in extreme denial. Like when I was little I noticed guys more than girls in movies and was more drawn to them. I remember changing my mindset to switch that. 98%of my life has been straight until recently. I felt drawn to some guys but never thought of it sexually. Always had girl crushes dreams and porn. Now I watch porn and I feel like straight takes longer and then I go and watch gay porn and feel nothing until I tell myself it’s two attractive dudes and love is love and imagine physical sensations and then it hits like suddenly. Like I have to convince myself it’s alright. Then when I try again I can do all that but feel nothing and then straight porn works. Idk if it’s just getting a fix or the first time works with anything or what but it’s confusing. On top of that I’ve felt girl relationships including my wife maybe miss something and a guy maybe matches that feeling that but then I feel like I’d be missing something without a girl or my wife. Idk I’ve had some rough times in life with male figures in my life but idk. I feel like I have to convince myself more and more that I’m straight even more than the first time I dealt with this. Can someone relate? Please
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