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I think that’s the challenge with OCD. I look at it as a coping mechanism to deal with anxiety. For me I may get an intrusive thought and ruminate (or another compulsion) in order to relieve the anxiety rather than facing the anxiety. Sometimes it’s simply accepting you are anxious and sitting with that feeling.. which for many is very scary. But eventually if you sit with it, it will pass
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Would you say ERP and doing something anxiety inducing would on theory numb you to the intrusive thoughts and therefore stop ruminating? I'm still a little confused on it all.
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ERP is not a way to avoid anxiety. It’s the opposite. The unpleasant emotions are the thing you are exposing yourself to, and letting yourself feel them without trying to figure out why they are there, monitor them, or attempt to solve them or get rid of them in any way. Sit with the anxiety, don’t run away. Choose to not solve the problem. The anxiety will not go away instantly, it will slowly subside over time. But the more you ruminate the closer you move yourself to panic.
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When practicing ERP for my real event, would it technically mean that ruminating will subside as a side effect of the ERP? For me I am currently watching an hour a day videos to include my anxiety and then just sitting there with it. When I'm not doing my exposures I can't seem to keep the anxiety down.
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@Anonymous Intrusive thoughts are something you can’t control. Rumination on the other hand is a thing you do. It requires effort. Here’s a good article about that: https://drmichaeljgreenberg.com/understanding-pure-o-you-are-not-having-intrusive-thoughts-all-day-you-are-ruminating/
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- 3y ago
@cheyras Understanding that rumination is a thing I can choose not to do did not instantly solve my problem but it helped. It’s a deeply ingrained habit but you can work on it and reduce your rumination over time.
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@cheyras Just replied the same thing to someone else. I think my main question is will ERP actually cause the anxiety from my real event to subside and therefore no longer care?
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👋🏻 anonymous! The gist is that you're teaching your brain (namely your amygdala and your cortex) to become comfortable with anxiety by continuing to live your life when it's present. Over time, as you become comfortable with it, it will lesson. But if it doesn't, that's okay too. The goal is not to get rid of anxiety. That will just make it worse. Hope this helps! (Ps. I struggle with rumination a lot too. It's my main compulsion! Take a look at Dr. Michael Greenberg's writings about rumination-based ERP.)
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Sorry, I commented instead of replying. I think my main question is will ERP actually cause the anxiety from my real event to subside and therefore no longer care?
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@Anonymous You may not be aware, but your question here is actually asking me for reassurance. You're wanting certainty that sound ERP will alleviate your anxiety, because you're afraid to experience anxiety. For us folks with OCD, reassurance seeking is a compulsion and prolongs the anxiety. TL;DR - maybe it will cause it to subside. Maybe it won't. You're gonna have to find out, and that's scary as hell. But we're all scared as hell together.
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@Kory Rozich *you're wanting certainty that ERP will
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@Kory Rozich Yeah it might be reassurance, but at the same time I'm still trying to understand ERP. I generally do not know if in a few months I'll be like "oh that was so silly" or if ERP isn't for me. I dunno.
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@Anonymous Totally! I really struggled with this as well when I was just starting out my OCD therapy. I needed to "figure out" ERP and it was really causing me a lot of anxiety. But the truth is that you may find in a few months that you feel your anxiety is "silly." It may take a few days. It may take a year and 2 weeks. We don't know. What we do know is that ERP is considered to be the gold standard treatment for OCD. What we do know is that so many other folks like us have dealt with the same uncertainty about ERP. None of us know if it'll "work". But we just have to step out, sorta in faith, and trust that it MIGHT, which is better than it won't.
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@Kory Rozich Sigh. You're right. Not like I have any better ideas currently!
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@Anonymous If you find one, let us know! Haha. We're all on here looking for the silver bullet and the sooner we drop that search, the better off we'll be. And I'm literally speaking to myself with these words just as I'm speaking with you. Over time, ERP will become your own as you navigate through it (hopefully) with a therapist. Hopefully over time it will make more sense to you.
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I think my main question is will ERP actually cause the anxiety from my real event to subside, and there no longer care?
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therefore no longer care***
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- 22w ago
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Sometimes I notice my intrusive thoughts cause me to spiral and sometimes not. I've been practicing ERP for quite a while so it's a bit easier for me to not spiral. But I wonder why that happens. Does anyone else have it? Also I'm on medication idk if that plays a role.
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What ERP or other techniques do you use to combat fear of cancelation? Especially curious about those with taboo thoughts, false memory ocd and event ocd based off of real events where the fear of cancellation may actually hold some validity. I once did my own ERP not under a therapist but just on my own I decided to create an anonymous account on Twitter and defend a friend who was receiving online criticism. I knew that this would be semi-controversial so I was expecting backlash and when I recieved troll replies it actually seemed to be a really helpful low-stakes exposure activity. Is this something that others have done? Low stakes online posts etc. that you know will recieve negative responses? I have had severe OCD as a kid as pretty much every subtype under the sun, and as an adult I pretty much have all the types under control except for this real event and false memory and taboo thought OCD. It seems like a different beast since it's somewhat realistic in the camcellation culture today, and it's confusing to address. Ive shut down almost all social accounts and it's keeping me from progressing in a career where I need to have an online presence :/
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