- Username
- Anonymous
- Date posted
- 3y ago
I think that’s the challenge with OCD. I look at it as a coping mechanism to deal with anxiety. For me I may get an intrusive thought and ruminate (or another compulsion) in order to relieve the anxiety rather than facing the anxiety. Sometimes it’s simply accepting you are anxious and sitting with that feeling.. which for many is very scary. But eventually if you sit with it, it will pass
Would you say ERP and doing something anxiety inducing would on theory numb you to the intrusive thoughts and therefore stop ruminating? I'm still a little confused on it all.
ERP is not a way to avoid anxiety. It’s the opposite. The unpleasant emotions are the thing you are exposing yourself to, and letting yourself feel them without trying to figure out why they are there, monitor them, or attempt to solve them or get rid of them in any way. Sit with the anxiety, don’t run away. Choose to not solve the problem. The anxiety will not go away instantly, it will slowly subside over time. But the more you ruminate the closer you move yourself to panic.
When practicing ERP for my real event, would it technically mean that ruminating will subside as a side effect of the ERP? For me I am currently watching an hour a day videos to include my anxiety and then just sitting there with it. When I'm not doing my exposures I can't seem to keep the anxiety down.
@Anonymous Intrusive thoughts are something you can’t control. Rumination on the other hand is a thing you do. It requires effort. Here’s a good article about that: https://drmichaeljgreenberg.com/understanding-pure-o-you-are-not-having-intrusive-thoughts-all-day-you-are-ruminating/
@cheyras Understanding that rumination is a thing I can choose not to do did not instantly solve my problem but it helped. It’s a deeply ingrained habit but you can work on it and reduce your rumination over time.
@cheyras Just replied the same thing to someone else. I think my main question is will ERP actually cause the anxiety from my real event to subside and therefore no longer care?
👋🏻 anonymous! The gist is that you're teaching your brain (namely your amygdala and your cortex) to become comfortable with anxiety by continuing to live your life when it's present. Over time, as you become comfortable with it, it will lesson. But if it doesn't, that's okay too. The goal is not to get rid of anxiety. That will just make it worse. Hope this helps! (Ps. I struggle with rumination a lot too. It's my main compulsion! Take a look at Dr. Michael Greenberg's writings about rumination-based ERP.)
Sorry, I commented instead of replying. I think my main question is will ERP actually cause the anxiety from my real event to subside and therefore no longer care?
@Anonymous You may not be aware, but your question here is actually asking me for reassurance. You're wanting certainty that sound ERP will alleviate your anxiety, because you're afraid to experience anxiety. For us folks with OCD, reassurance seeking is a compulsion and prolongs the anxiety. TL;DR - maybe it will cause it to subside. Maybe it won't. You're gonna have to find out, and that's scary as hell. But we're all scared as hell together.
@Kory Rozich *you're wanting certainty that ERP will
@Kory Rozich Yeah it might be reassurance, but at the same time I'm still trying to understand ERP. I generally do not know if in a few months I'll be like "oh that was so silly" or if ERP isn't for me. I dunno.
@Anonymous Totally! I really struggled with this as well when I was just starting out my OCD therapy. I needed to "figure out" ERP and it was really causing me a lot of anxiety. But the truth is that you may find in a few months that you feel your anxiety is "silly." It may take a few days. It may take a year and 2 weeks. We don't know. What we do know is that ERP is considered to be the gold standard treatment for OCD. What we do know is that so many other folks like us have dealt with the same uncertainty about ERP. None of us know if it'll "work". But we just have to step out, sorta in faith, and trust that it MIGHT, which is better than it won't.
@Kory Rozich Sigh. You're right. Not like I have any better ideas currently!
@Anonymous If you find one, let us know! Haha. We're all on here looking for the silver bullet and the sooner we drop that search, the better off we'll be. And I'm literally speaking to myself with these words just as I'm speaking with you. Over time, ERP will become your own as you navigate through it (hopefully) with a therapist. Hopefully over time it will make more sense to you.
I think my main question is will ERP actually cause the anxiety from my real event to subside, and there no longer care?
therefore no longer care***
Questions about ERP. My anxiety is very low due to the amount of medicine that I’m on but I still have the constant intrusive thoughts. Do others have issues with trying work with intrusive thoughts and ERP without anxiety? What have you done to work on it?
So I’m starting therapy this week but I’ve been trying to use ERP myself, my main compulsion is rumination which I wasn’t even aware was a compulsion. I’m trying to do ERP but when I focus on observing the thought it goes, I dunno if I’m focusing too much on actually how to follow ERP or is this normal? I feel like I might be subconsciously blocking thoughts because I know how bad it is when I go down the rabbit hole, but then I also worry that the anxiety goes too quickly and that I’m finding it too easy to ignore the thought?
For those how have done ERP how do you deal with the intrusive thoughts?
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