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The Puritans very much have a yin and yang thing going on. There’s the famous sermon by Jonathan Edwards “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” More subtly, but more scary to me when I was younger and day-and-night burdened with the worry that I was destined for hell, is John Bunyan’s book Pilgrim’s Progress which has all sorts of descriptions of people who never make it to paradise (some of whom I saw myself in more than the main character). On the other hand, a more recent book, Gentle and Lowly, which is a very consoling book about Christ’s love for sinners (it has made me cry), draws a lot from the Puritans, particularly Thomas Goodwin, and contains things which are important to affirm. If you wanted to take a more ACT approach, Kierkegaard is the man but his thought and writing is very dense. Also you may find solidarity in the story of William Cowper, writer of hymns such as “There is a fountain, filled with blood” as well as an acclaimed Romantic poet and vocal opponent of slavery (along with his friend John Newton). He believed he was destined for Hell because of an intrusive dream he had, and attempted suicide three times. Anyway hope these help!
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But just to be clear- it takes a lot of clever thinking to read this kind of stuff while in a religious themed episode to me- otherwise I use them for reassurance. It’s a balance between “ok this is what I’m going to read while the OCD thoughts are still with me. They are welcome to surface at any point”
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This theme is too hot for me to touch…it’s causing lots of problems, but undergoing treatment, hopefully it will get better…so I can’t even answer.
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I get that. It would be too hot for me too if I was younger I think. I’ve had OcD my whole 38 years but this theme puts all the other ones I have to shame:)
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@emmy sue I agree. Scrupulosity has definitely been my hardest theme to deal with.
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Yeah, one of my biggest questions is how do you say "maybe, maybe not" or "accept the uncertainty" of going to hell? I haven't really done ERP for this because I don't know how to approach it.
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One idea I thought of was reading Scripture warnings against unbelief….
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Talking to others helps, maybe a pastor?
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I have found that almost makes it worse since they understand OCD:)
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@emmy sue Read Love Wins by Rob Bell
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@Ríona Does he have OCD?
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@Ríona that’s the opposite of exposure
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@CaptainKierkegaard I think I have to agree on that one
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@CaptainKierkegaard Thats true but depending on what kind of church you go to, you might just hear fire and brimstone all the time so getting some alternative viewpoints can be good.
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So…I’ve had that phrase “sinners in the hands of an angry God” come up so much this past week. I know He’s not angry because I’m justified by Christ. But I can say, but maybe I’m not. Sheesh that is freaky!!! I read Gentle and Lowly this spring during the start of my recent religious theme. All the tears. So so so so good! Even tho I was struggling, it really spoke to me. And, it actually became an exposure for me to keep reading the Bible and praying- because I tend to avoid those when I’m obsessing. Thanks for the reminder of Cowper. I have one of his books somewhere. Pretty sure he had OCD before anyone knew what it was.
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Hi there! Thank you so much for your vulnerability and willingness to reach out on here. The main thing with ERP is to develop statements that revolve around uncertainty. Saying “this may or may not happen.” I know that that’s very distressing especially when it comes to a higher entity like God, but it will decrease your distress in the long run. Have you talked about this with your NOCD therapist? Remember that OCD is strong, but you are stronger!
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Thanks- I’ve been to therapy/ just never struggled with a theme as bad as this one. I know I need to treat the content as irrelevant and it is just so dang hard to take the risk. I feel like I’m almost there though. Like I’m about to turn the switch on, you know? My NOCD therapist gave too much assurance so I stopped doing it. Not a lot of options in my state but I’m thinking of trying again with a different one
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Hi guys! I’m new to the community and I’ve recently received my OCD diagnosis (tho I’ve known about it since childhood). I’ve been somewhat spiraling lately as I wait for my first ERP session (hooray!) I was just wondering if any of you guys have received ERP for existential OCD and if it was successful? My existential OCD compulsions are more so mental and have been affecting me in the sense of dream/memory flashbacks and giving me a sort of “uncanny” feeling about everything around me. Any advice is appreciated! Thank you❤️
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What ERP or other techniques do you use to combat fear of cancelation? Especially curious about those with taboo thoughts, false memory ocd and event ocd based off of real events where the fear of cancellation may actually hold some validity. I once did my own ERP not under a therapist but just on my own I decided to create an anonymous account on Twitter and defend a friend who was receiving online criticism. I knew that this would be semi-controversial so I was expecting backlash and when I recieved troll replies it actually seemed to be a really helpful low-stakes exposure activity. Is this something that others have done? Low stakes online posts etc. that you know will recieve negative responses? I have had severe OCD as a kid as pretty much every subtype under the sun, and as an adult I pretty much have all the types under control except for this real event and false memory and taboo thought OCD. It seems like a different beast since it's somewhat realistic in the camcellation culture today, and it's confusing to address. Ive shut down almost all social accounts and it's keeping me from progressing in a career where I need to have an online presence :/
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So you got to ask me anything… Now I’d like to ask you something! I’ve heard from Members that they were so scared coming to their first ERP session. They were terrified that I would think they were crazy, that I would tell them their worst fears were true. That I would confirm they are some form of a terrible person or have them hauled off to prison for their thoughts. I’ve also had Members share how they’re very scared to begin ERP treatment because they’ve researched enough to know it means facing the fear, without the compulsions that have kept them feeling safe (but not really safe) this entire time. They struggled to see how they could be capable of doing this, while simultaneously acknowledging that they did not want to live like this anymore. If you have had your first session, what were your thoughts before? Did you have any hesitations or fears going into it? How did it turn out? If you haven’t yet begun to work with an ERP specialist, what is holding you back?
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