- Username
- Jassraj singh
- Date posted
- 2y ago
Are you asking here for discussion of difference between confidence and certainty? Confidence is like "it's probably this, I don't need to spend more time thinking about it". Certainty would be "I 100% know this, there is no doubt". Confidence it's possible to get to, certainty is impossible to get. There's always a "but what if?" Or "how do I know for sure?". With ocd you *want* certainty on some things, particularly if they're important to you. But like you say, it's never satisfying enough for ocd to be pretty confident, it wants to *know for sure*, so it gets you to go back over everything, check again, etc. The thing about moving forward with uncertainty is recognising that you want certainty on something, but you're never gonna know for sure, so it's practicing telling yourself "yep, maybe, maybe not, I'll probably never know for sure", sitting with the uncomfortableness of that and then hopefully over time being able to let the anxiety come down by itself. Takes practice tho!
Means every person has these types of thought ,but they are comfortable with uncertainty they didnt 100% sureness. While person with ocd needs certainty,after knowing this it is not possible , means digging that hole where you never get water... Accepting uncertainty =Freness from ocd
@Jassraj singh Hey, yeah 100% what you said. Everyone has loads of random, weird, tricky, difficulty thoughts all the time. Even people with ocd will have lots that they just, let go. But with ocd some of those thoughts you latch on to. I think cos you're *really* scared they're true, so you try and find ways to be sure they're not true. Digging that hole when there's no water is really good way of putting it. One way of thinking about ocd is trying to find sureness for things it's not actually possible to be sure about. So you keep trying harder and harder but it doesn't work, so you try harder. So key to treatment is practicing being ok with not knowing. Taking a different approach even though you really want to keep trying your normal approach. Think that's why ERP works, and why it takes a while
I do the same thing.
This is me, sometimes it could’ve literally happened 10 seconds ago
I think in some context confidence and certainty are different and in some places they’re similar. If you aren’t certain something didn’t happen, you may still feel confident it didn’t happen, or you may not feel confident at all it didn’t happen. I’m not quite sure what they mean by “move forward with confidence.” I’ve never heard that phrase in relation to ocd, actually. I guess I’d just say don’t focus on it. Toss it out. You can move forward without feeling confident. Maybe they just mean you’ll feel more confident in your recovery eventually?
I’m a little confused on accepting uncertainty. If I answer an intrusive thought with “maybe, maybe not”, am I supposed to truly believe what I’m saying? Truly believe that I could REALLY SERIOUSLY do ____? For example, if i get the intrusive thought “I’m going to act out and hurt someone”, am I supposed to say “maybe I will hurt someone” and then continue with the triggering situation? Because I can’t tell if I’m actually putting someone in danger because the thoughts feel real or if it’s false alarms and I need to push through it. Does anyone have any experience in this? I’d like to make sure I’m understanding this right
If the uncertainty leads me to accept the thing i am running away from how was that not true and if the uncertainty the may be or maybe not in the future gets me to do something i might be in denial of what then?!? This is a possibility and a big one cause if i would have been so sure if myself why would i even question in the first place…And with uncertainty how do i know anything for sure and people who don't know will say they are gender queer so how am i not that.….. ¡ have stopped feeling the anxiety and all these feel real and I don't even react to it cause i am tired and numb to them its like I don't know who i am anymore and everyone with soocd constantly says they know they are straight or whatever and i used to earlier and now I don't why dont i?! Why do i feel like thats a lie or could be a lie and my brain has confused my emotions and feelings to the point where nothing feels real anymore and i feel like an imposter and someone who doesn't know who she is and is suffering…… is this ocd doing this or my thoughts being real just me not realising? Is this ocd i am constantly trying to figure out if the thoughts are real or not and then i say if its real i type all this because i am scared and fear and in denial like where does this end?!
Why does it feel like we have to accept more uncertainty than most? I know I may be wrong, but I cant help but feel that it is so wrong to not worry about potential issues, if I’m making the wrong choice about my relationship especially if there were and can be real problems involved, if I’ve harmed, if I’ve been harmed, if this is not even OCD. It feels like Im being kept in the dark and it feels so unfair. Is there really no way other than to accept uncertainty? These are such important things (to me at least) and I’m supposed to not be sure about them? How is ERP going to help with OCD mixed with « real » problems? Ive been feeling so sad and frustrated about this lately, especially with « is it even OCD or am I supposed to be doing something else? Can someone please let me know how they overcome this?
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