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Compulsions
I keep finding myself almost automatically checking or trying to disprove my intrusive thoughts before I even get chance to agree or ignore them. Does anyone have an advice on this?
I keep finding myself almost automatically checking or trying to disprove my intrusive thoughts before I even get chance to agree or ignore them. Does anyone have an advice on this?
I don’t know how great it is if your trying to long term help but sometimes I get stuck on a thought or worry so I give in and search stuff up so that way I can sleep in as much peace as possible. It’s usually about life threatening diseases and illnesses which isn’t good to always worry about but I don’t know how to not worry.
I've had, or still have to an extent, the same problem. It seemed like I'm too fast for myself, even while talking to other people as soon as an intrusive thought pops up I would engage with it (and inevitably miss a part of the conversation). For me it seemed so automatic that the "neutralizing thought" became the intrusive one as they usually came in a package. What helped me? Well I started treating the whole "package" of thoughts as intrusive (if it becomes automatic as you say you could say it's intrusive, same thing as the original obsession) as in I would endure the thought and refocus on the conversation or the thing I was doing (the four R thing). You should watch out for one thing, are you trying to do it the "right way"? Or are you setting yourself the goal of having an almost perfect score of "I need to stop answering to any of my thoughts"? Intrusive thoughts are just thoughts, and any thought can become one so trying to always to de right thing is just impossible and counterproductive. If you didn't manage to do it "right" today (atleast to your expectations which might be high), no biggie, let's try to do it better next time. Also, one thing that always screwed me up. I'm prone to rumination and trying to think things through. When I got even a glimpse of thoughts which I knew was somehow connected to an obsession or part of this unwanted train of thoughts (be it the compulsion or obsession), I would push it down or try to force it away mentally. That would often happen in social situations due to the added pressure of having to stay present all the time (pressure which I put on myself and still sometimes do). In effect it was really hard for me to differentiate what was my obsession, intrusive thought or compulsion which didn't help when talking to therapist and them asking "so what are your intrusive thoughts?". So if your compulsions do include neutralizing or pushing down thoughts and then trying to figure out the "right" way to deal with them, you might be in a similar boat. So if the thoughts come in a package deal and you seem unable to uncouple them, treat them all as intrusive. That means enduring the thought/s (letting them be there but trying not to give them to much attention), accepting the negative feelings and refocusing on what you were doing. If you notice yourself engaging in them automatically, relax, you didn't fail anything. You can always try to refocus after catching yourself, there is no right way to do it. Treat it as a skill, due to the imperfect nature of thoughts and OCD, of course it's gonna take some time (and setback which are normal). Through time it will become much easier and you will start to do it automatically.
@ocdalltheway I can’t thank you enough for this!! Wow, I relate so much to your struggles and you phrased it all perfectly. I really appreciate the advice as I was really struggling to come up with a solution for avoiding all this checking I seem to automatically be doing. I’m going to try out your suggestions but also be kinder to myself if it doesn’t go to plan the first few tries. Thank you again!!
@Clementine Happy to help! Keep at it and you got it, be kind to yourself. If you haven't already you can check out jon hershfields article series "Harm OCD" (just type in jon hershfield harm ocd, it's on the sheppard pratt website). He's got I think 4 articles in the series. To me, he has some of the best OCD insight and a great approach in dealing with it, it's a good read.
Yes! These mental compulsions are very common. My advice based on my own experience with them is to practice being mindful of your thoughts as a first step. That could be saying to yourself, “I’m having the thought that ___.” This helps us generate some awareness of the thought so that we don’t automatically go into checking or self-reassuring, etc. and give meaning to it. In other words it can help interrupt the OCD cycle that feeds us more and more doubt the more we engage. This article talks more about what mental compulsions are, how to identify them, and respond to them effectively: https://www.treatmyocd.com/blog/mental-compulsions-the-unseen-battle?utm_source=google_ads&utm_campaign=Search_Nonbrand_DSA_US&utm_content=All_Website_visitors&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAg_KbBhDLARIsANx7wAwBycsGu5bbZTk_BLqaL7R5e789CjIWmGrY9tPFn7FbX_dqmVPeQK4aArenEALw_wcB
@Killian Thank you so much this is really helpful!
I noticed I’m starting to fall into a trap of a bunch of little compulsions- some of which are these little knee jerk behaviors that my brain is catching as I do them. For example, a short stand up at my desk (like sitting up and moving slightly to see above my cubicle) to check my surroundings. I’m struggling to catch it before hand- anyone got any ideas to help combat that? I really want to get past sitting with this and stop that little compulsion but because it’s become a habit, I’m just not noticing it until I’ve already done it. #Help
Okay so I have been struggling with pocd. And I have been getting better but now my ocd is telling me that I'm proving it right by slowly started to get better. For example, after so long of trying my hardest to avoid anything protaining to children I realized that I have to in order to get better. So I've been letting myself go out more and yk see children. The intrusive thoughts are still there though. Which is feeding into it trying to convince me that it's real. It feels like it does that anytime I'm a step closer to getting better. Does anyone have any advice on how to help it? I struggle with mental checks and responding. I know that I should let it pass but it's so difficult. The intrusive thoughts have been getting worse too. They pop up over the smallest things. It's all just jumping to insane conclusions and I'm so sick of it. I just want to be better.
I still do not have an OFFICIAL diagnosis (I dont have the means to do so) but given my symptoms, past and present in my life hugely suggest OCD is what I am dealing with. I cannot be 100 percent certain but after searching for answers and researching for a long time now, I am fairly certain and confident this is what I am struggling with. Given this step forward, I am making more effort into giving up compulsions. at the current moment I believe to be dealing with ROCD, as I have been having several intrusive thoughts that conflict with my relationship. For starters, recently over the past month or 2, I have been struggling with intrusive thoughts like not being over my ex, being attracted to someone else, losing feelings for my partner and not being in love, etc. I can consciously identify that I dont believe these thoughts to be true but it causes me so much distress and anxiety. It gets extremely unbearable some days, and I have leaned into 2 main compulsions. I have relied on thought checking and googling as my source of relief. At first the googling was genuinely to start finding answers; hence why I have made some of the discoveries I have about OCD including this site. But it developed into every time I was anxious, I would whip my phone out and start googling strictly to find an answer that would reassure me or calm me down. As for thought checking, it acted as a way to reaffirm my love for my girlfriend in my head when I have had the thoughts that collide with my relationship and how I feel about my girlfriend. It worked at first but developed into a compulsion where every time a bad thought got me worked up id either do my normal googling or Id think about that in my head to calm myself down. Over time these compulsions have gotten less and less affective and now when I do them it only gets me more anxious and desperate for reassurance (strengthening the cycle or whatever it is lol). I did some more research and finally have accepted the very real fact that I am going to have to sit in heavy anxiety and not give into compulsions for a while in order to treat this. I have to sit in the thoughts that make me feel all this hightened anxiety and distress without giving into compulsion. to be honest I am scared, the thoughts are more rampant than ever, but I am ready to commit to this. I dont think I am gonna be able to go cold turkey on my compulsions so I am ready for the reality I might relapse on the compulsions sometimes, But am gonna keep going until I can break these shackles OCD has on my life right now. I wanna ask, what is everyones methods they use to avoid giving into compulsion when the thoughts get loud? any advice is welcome :)
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