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Compulsions
I keep finding myself almost automatically checking or trying to disprove my intrusive thoughts before I even get chance to agree or ignore them. Does anyone have an advice on this?
I keep finding myself almost automatically checking or trying to disprove my intrusive thoughts before I even get chance to agree or ignore them. Does anyone have an advice on this?
I don’t know how great it is if your trying to long term help but sometimes I get stuck on a thought or worry so I give in and search stuff up so that way I can sleep in as much peace as possible. It’s usually about life threatening diseases and illnesses which isn’t good to always worry about but I don’t know how to not worry.
I've had, or still have to an extent, the same problem. It seemed like I'm too fast for myself, even while talking to other people as soon as an intrusive thought pops up I would engage with it (and inevitably miss a part of the conversation). For me it seemed so automatic that the "neutralizing thought" became the intrusive one as they usually came in a package. What helped me? Well I started treating the whole "package" of thoughts as intrusive (if it becomes automatic as you say you could say it's intrusive, same thing as the original obsession) as in I would endure the thought and refocus on the conversation or the thing I was doing (the four R thing). You should watch out for one thing, are you trying to do it the "right way"? Or are you setting yourself the goal of having an almost perfect score of "I need to stop answering to any of my thoughts"? Intrusive thoughts are just thoughts, and any thought can become one so trying to always to de right thing is just impossible and counterproductive. If you didn't manage to do it "right" today (atleast to your expectations which might be high), no biggie, let's try to do it better next time. Also, one thing that always screwed me up. I'm prone to rumination and trying to think things through. When I got even a glimpse of thoughts which I knew was somehow connected to an obsession or part of this unwanted train of thoughts (be it the compulsion or obsession), I would push it down or try to force it away mentally. That would often happen in social situations due to the added pressure of having to stay present all the time (pressure which I put on myself and still sometimes do). In effect it was really hard for me to differentiate what was my obsession, intrusive thought or compulsion which didn't help when talking to therapist and them asking "so what are your intrusive thoughts?". So if your compulsions do include neutralizing or pushing down thoughts and then trying to figure out the "right" way to deal with them, you might be in a similar boat. So if the thoughts come in a package deal and you seem unable to uncouple them, treat them all as intrusive. That means enduring the thought/s (letting them be there but trying not to give them to much attention), accepting the negative feelings and refocusing on what you were doing. If you notice yourself engaging in them automatically, relax, you didn't fail anything. You can always try to refocus after catching yourself, there is no right way to do it. Treat it as a skill, due to the imperfect nature of thoughts and OCD, of course it's gonna take some time (and setback which are normal). Through time it will become much easier and you will start to do it automatically.
@ocdalltheway I can’t thank you enough for this!! Wow, I relate so much to your struggles and you phrased it all perfectly. I really appreciate the advice as I was really struggling to come up with a solution for avoiding all this checking I seem to automatically be doing. I’m going to try out your suggestions but also be kinder to myself if it doesn’t go to plan the first few tries. Thank you again!!
@Clementine Happy to help! Keep at it and you got it, be kind to yourself. If you haven't already you can check out jon hershfields article series "Harm OCD" (just type in jon hershfield harm ocd, it's on the sheppard pratt website). He's got I think 4 articles in the series. To me, he has some of the best OCD insight and a great approach in dealing with it, it's a good read.
Yes! These mental compulsions are very common. My advice based on my own experience with them is to practice being mindful of your thoughts as a first step. That could be saying to yourself, “I’m having the thought that ___.” This helps us generate some awareness of the thought so that we don’t automatically go into checking or self-reassuring, etc. and give meaning to it. In other words it can help interrupt the OCD cycle that feeds us more and more doubt the more we engage. This article talks more about what mental compulsions are, how to identify them, and respond to them effectively: https://www.treatmyocd.com/blog/mental-compulsions-the-unseen-battle?utm_source=google_ads&utm_campaign=Search_Nonbrand_DSA_US&utm_content=All_Website_visitors&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAg_KbBhDLARIsANx7wAwBycsGu5bbZTk_BLqaL7R5e789CjIWmGrY9tPFn7FbX_dqmVPeQK4aArenEALw_wcB
@Killian Thank you so much this is really helpful!
My OCD is continuing to have me constantly check and check and check! I keep doubting and am very confused! How can I get out of this trap!!!!!
I’ve been stuck in this cycle for the last month or two and am not sure how to get out of it. Basically, I will work on ignoring the thoughts and not responding or engaging plus limiting/completely eliminating compulsions. After a week or two of constant work, the amount of intrusive thoughts in a day goes down. The anxiety each thought causes also goes down with some, but not all, thoughts passing without notice like they would for a normal person. The thoughts that do stick cause anxiety and make me want to ruminate or do other compulsions but I make sure to limit them. After a bit, I’m in a pretty good head space. This is usually when it goes down hill. I’ll start to question if I even have ocd because some of the thoughts (once again not all) pass without notice. The difficulty resisting compulsions goes down and so does the anxiety, only increasing the questioning. I spend a while questioning if I’ve ever had ocd in the first place and then something sets me off or the questioning itself becomes a trigger and I get stuck back into the same ocd cycle with constant rumination, anxiety, and other compulsions. This lasts for a week or two before I know I need to stop and try and work hard to get back to ignoring the thoughts. And the cycle just restarts over and over again. Does anyone have any tips to stop this from happening? It’s really harming my recovery as every few weeks I dive back into the same negative place I was.
I’ve tried living in the uncertainty today & kept myself busy but I can’t shake this feeling that I’m about to lose control & act on my thoughts. I keep feeling like I need to check in to see how I feel & keep my self safe & when I’m near my trigger it feels like I’m being pulled into doing it & feels like I want to but I’m not using compulsions. My thoughts feel like my own & feeling like I’ll be like this forever. Can someone relate or give advice 😩
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