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Hyperawareness
This is probably the worst theme I’ve had yet I don’t know how to shake it. It’s every moment of every day I’m so exhausted. It feels like erp just doesn’t work with this theme.
This is probably the worst theme I’ve had yet I don’t know how to shake it. It’s every moment of every day I’m so exhausted. It feels like erp just doesn’t work with this theme.
I had this for about 4 months, but it gets better and better over time. For me the key is to act like you don't care about the sensations (because fear makes it stick) and get on with your normal life activities anyway, even if the awareness is there. Over time the awareness will likely diminish as you get used to it and accept it and not fear it.
@Anonymous Thank you so much. I’ve been stuck like this for about 6/7 months it’s really hard :( I go through periods of not caring but then I judge my non-rumination thoughts as wrong, and the cycle keeps going. Ugh
@rathernot Zoloft 100mg also helped me tremendously. Makes me feel more hopeful and closer to myself again.
This is something I struggled with for some time. I have many posts related to hyper awareness (somatic OCD) if you type it in the search, I believe you’ll find my thread? Take note, the reason you’re considering this “theme” to be challenging, is because you’re making it “a thing”… you’re actually making it a “theme” I don’t even like calling OCD themes. OCD is ALL the same. When you make themes, it just puts another obstacle in front of you, that your brain thinks- “Oh, this is something you don’t like, so how can we solve this problem? We should keep bringing your attention and all of your focus towards this one thing and perform compulsions to feel better, because that’s what you like to do!” Your brain is being very logical and loves you very much, so naturally it’s going to keep bringing up this thing that constantly keeps bothering you, to make sure you’re not in danger. The remedy to all of this, is to cut out the compulsions and live by your values. Learn to trust yourself, instead of what your brain is throwing at you. The first compulsion we perform is judgement. When you say “this is the worst theme I’ve had” right there is a judgement. You can have a thought and not judge it. Because all thoughts are the same! They mean absolutely nothing. Thoughts are just something your brain does. I just call it “brain stuff”. You can have any random thought at any given time, and that’s perfectly okay. How you get “stuck” is when you put importance and label your thoughts, feelings and sensations! 😊
@outdoorman The bathroom is a theme with me. I for some reason worry about using it, or when I’ll have to use it. It’s sounds so weird, to me. I wonder if others have same obsession. I can do things, without worrying afterwards, but this one theme is always there.
@outdoorman Thank you so much. I was waiting to reply to this when I felt better. I rest relate to everything you said! I’m having this ‘problem’ recently where I won’t be ruminating, and then I check my thoughts and I’m like look! You were thinking the wrong thoughts! You should be focused on being ‘present’ and ‘aware’ which .. they are just intrusive thoughts. I’m just doing mental checking. Just trying to teach myself all thoughts are okay to think. Can I ask how you did erp with this? Like purposeful planned erp?
@rathernot It’s great that you realize you are doing mental checking! Sometimes that can be half the battle. Another pointer I would like to throw at you is, when you say- “Just trying to teach myself all thoughts are okay to think.” I would suggest, yes all thoughts are okay! Any thought will pop into your head at anytime, that’s perfectly normal. But I wouldn’t recommend “thinking” about those thoughts. Which can be another word for rumination, which is a compulsion. I wouldn’t even recommend ruminating about things you DO like. Such as, “Today is a great day! I think I’m going to play the lotto, because I keep thinking of my lucky number. And when I win the lotto, I’m going to live at this mansion and drive this car! Let’s think about what I would eat everyday! Ohh that’s a good thought! I like these thoughts. BUT I don’t like bad thoughts. Let’s not think and ruminate about bad thoughts! See where that leads? Because thoughts are all the same. Ruminating is ruminating no matter how you put it. So I would suggest to be considerate to your brain and try to cut out rumination completely. Remember that having a thought and thinking are two completely different things. Thinking is something WE do. Compulsions are something WE do. OCD is something we do. For mental compulsions, I found ACT more beneficial to me than ERP. Every therapist will tell you ERP is the gold standard for treatment AND they are correct. But I found ACT to be more beneficial for mental compulsions and ERP more beneficial for physical compulsions, like checking the stove every time before I left my house etc. ACT involves accepting whatever thought comes to you, and then committing to something you value rather than performing a compulsion and giving your time and energy to a random thought, feeling or sensation. Doing ERP like holding your breath or trying to not swallow etc. would just put that thought and feeling in charge of your life and put “importance” to it, so I found it helpful to just have that thought and continue doing what I was doing previously or something I value! Hope this all makes sense.
@Matthew L. Hmm. Sounds like you’re putting a thought like using the bathroom at the forefront of attention? What about having that thought, then feel really uncomfortable and then doing something you value or what you were doing before you had that random thought?
@outdoorman Right that makes sense and that’s what I’ve been trying to do recently but I’m still having tons of mental compulsions. The thing that confuses me about that is, humans think all day all the time, so how is it something we do? It just happens naturally. You can’t tell a person not to think. So I’ve never really understood that train of thought! I know Greenberg talks about it a lot.
@outdoorman It’s difficult for me most of the time to go back to doing something, after my mental compulsions. I question things I do each day, after the fact.
@rathernot Sorry for the late response, I’ve been at sea in the reception isn’t very good. I smiled really big when I read this, because you remind me of myself in my earlier days! I saw exactly how you do, in regards to what “thoughts” are and “thinking” is. I thought that humans “think” all day too. What you’re confusing is, that thoughts and thinking are two completely different things! They are separate from each other. Thoughts are what humans have every single day almost every single second of every single minute. Thinking is something we do! I’ll give you a good example. Let’s say you’re walking down the street in from out of nowhere a random person on the street yells that you are a unicorn! That random person yelling at you, is like a thought in your head. That thought was completely random, you had nothing to do with it. It’s just something that happened, just like thoughts happen every single minute of every single second of every single day. You don’t really have a reaction from that random person yelling at you. You just say- “Hmm that was odd?” And you continue walking down the street to your destination. Now, let’s say that same person on the street yells out- “You are a unicorn!” So, let’s say this time you DO react to what that random person yelled out in the street to you. You start “thinking” “Oh? Am I really a unicorn? Do I have a horn on my head? Am I a colorful rainbow? What if I’m not human? Are other people going to judge me? Maybe I should just start avoiding everyone, so I’m not embarrassed? I probably shouldn’t go to work today. You know what, I’m going to avoid going down this street for now on. Wait, am I even breathing right now? Am I even real? Maybe I should hold my breath to see if I’m alive? maybe I should pinch myself? Why am I so focused on my breath right now? As you can see a random thought, like someone yelling at you from the street, was something that you can’t control. Just like you can’t control random thoughts that pop into your head. Thoughts will always come to your head, it’s just something that your brain does. You can’t avoid them. But thinking is something that you do control. You have the choice to think about certain random things that pop into your head. Some thoughts can be beneficial to you, like hey your mortgage is due tomorrow, you should probably pay that.. then simply go write out a check and mail it. You don’t have to “think” about the consequences if you don’t pay your mortgage though. If I put a math equation in front of you and I tell you to solve it, then, yes, it’s beneficial for you to”think” about solving the math problem. BUT it’s something you do! And if I tell you to stop solving the math equation, then you have the option of stopping, or continuing to think about solving the equation! I was exactly like you, I thought everything that my brain threw up was important, and it was a part of me, and it was my identity. But through practice, teaching and therapy, that simply isn’t true. You are not your thoughts. Thoughts are completely separate from you. I struggled from cognitive fusion, which is thinking your thoughts are of importance because they are part of your identity. But what we need to practice is cognitive diffusion, which is understanding they are completely different! A great thing I love to ask people is, what is your trust score? What I mean by that is how much do you trust your self, rather than trusting the random thoughts that come to your head? Your self and your values will never steer you wrong. Your values is your moral compass. The thoughts in your head are just random thoughts in your head. You know you need to pay your mortgage on time. So that bumps your trust score up a point. You know not to drive your car into incoming traffic so that bumps a point up in your score while you’re driving to work, or the grocery store, etc. You don’t have to think about the consequences of not paying your mortgage. You don’t have to think of the consequences of driving your car into incoming traffic. You know you have to purchase fruits, vegetables, meat, and prepare them in your kitchen to nourish your body. You don’t have to think of the consequences of all the germs in your kitchen or poisoning a loved one, etc. What’s your trust score? And what do you value? Do you value spending time and energy on the things going on in your head? Or do you value spending time with loved ones, nourishing your body and setting goals that are close to you? 😊
@outdoorman Quite an answer. You’re definitely a smart person 😀. Where at sea have you been?
@outdoorman Thank you so much I really appreciate you saying that. I don’t know why the idea of thinking and everyone else thinking all the time freaks me out. It never did before! I’m always trying to ‘check’ how to think normally and then how do you just observe? It’s meta and it’s just ocd -_- I have to start my maybe/maybe nots with it. You’re words really help I really appreciate it. I wish there was ways to direct message people on here!
@Matthew L. Haha thanks! I’ve had great teachers in my journey of recovery. I was in the Caribbeans for 2 weeks. Visited 5 different islands and it was a wonderful experience! I highly recommend it if you ever get the chance!
@rathernot Yeah, there should be a suggestion box on here lol. Everyone would agree, we should be able to direct message others. I frequent this App quite a bit, so ask away if you ever have more questions. 😊
@outdoorman I’ve been to the Caribbean on a cruise, many years ago. I like to travel, however my OCD thoughts has made it difficult for me, to worry I’ll enjoy myself, with intrusive thoughts. Sounds like you’re far into recovery. I don’t feel I’m near it, yet.
@rathernot Wow this is really crazy this where my anxiety is as to what “thinking “ is as it’s something we don’t stop doing
@Matthew L. I have the same obsession actually! How have you been faring with ERP on here?
@Keeping On I haven’t practiced ERP in 3 months. I stopped my sessions because insurance doesn’t cover it. Tomorrow is the 1 year mark of my first session. I tried ERP for months. I improved a few things.
I suffer hyper awareness about what I do. Certain things more than others.
some days I wake up with so much dread and guilt. It makes it so hard to keep going. I open my eyes and I’m hit with a wave of nausea and terror. I feel ashamed of my compulsions and my OCD. I feel like a monster for my checking compulsions. For momentarily sexualizing things that shouldn’t be sexualized out of anxiety. I’m ashamed of a lot that I give into because of anxiety. Confessing things that are meaningless to my boyfriend. I feel so awful and unworthy of existing and of love. I feel hopeless I don’t want to keep pushing, the more I push the more meta my OCD becomes and the more guilt I feel for this mental illness. The more confusing it becomes to do ERP. If compulsions are a choice, they feel like life or death and it’s driving me insane, I beat myself up so badly over them I’m scared of compulsions, I’m scared of thoughts, I’m scared to be awake, I’m even scared of sleeping because my intrusions and compulsions haunt me there too. I spend my dreams trying to explain or justify my OCD and compulsions to people. I’m exhausted, I want this to stop so badly. My severe OCD isn’t feeling any less severe and it’s been months. I don’t want to keep questioning my every move but I’m so hyperaware of everything I do. I’m so tired. Some days I don’t even have tears to cry with. I’m just so full of despair and shame
"The themes don't matter, it's the OCD that's the real culprit!" I don't buy that. How's that? I didn't have this crap until the real event themes came along. I wasn't born with OCD, I didn't have it from a young age, etc. This was learned, this was real event theme triggered, this was a bad habit that kept on on going and never died, the frequency just picked up and now it's a daily hell. This wasn't happening before the actual themes. Which makes sense. It's a result of being "stuck" in a cycle of guilt, shame, and constant cognitive challenges to "deal" with past deeds. I've very skeptical of any future solution. The fact that there doesn't seem to be any permanent solution for real event OCD is defeating and depressing. I don't know how people "beat OCD" without some level of delusion mindset or baked out of their mind in medication. Doesn't seem to be a holistic or real solution to this. Just more of the same hellish routines. I'm just very pessimistic, it's been years. Where is the hope. Sick of being stuck like this.
I find while doing exposures, rarely does my anxiety lessen. It usually amps up and stays that way for the remainder of the day. I could be having a fairly decent day, but dutifully do my exposures and then the rest of my day is anxiety filled. I guess that’s just how it is now? Also, I’m wondering if my therapist even believes I have OCD. I totally understand my therapist cannot provide reassurance. But it’s to the point it seems my therapist acts like I actually did the thing I fear. I feel so isolated.
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