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- anthonycaronna
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Religious OCD
How does scrupulosity or religious ocd affect you? And how do you cope with it?
How does scrupulosity or religious ocd affect you? And how do you cope with it?
you are needed on this earth whether you're a sinner or not for you can be redeemed and changed to fight on the side of good. i think scrupulosity comes from wanting to get rid of the guilt even tho you are already forgiven. no one is meant to dwell on their past sins in regret unless they are repenting. those dealing with scrupulosity are generally already repentant souls and they deserve to move on in peace from their mistakes because they're genuinely sorry. how is anyone gonna try to make up for their past mistakes by just beating themselves up all the time? isn't it better to be humble and understand that we all make mistakes and forgiveness is needed if we're ever gonna survive and live? a life of scrupulosity isn't a way to live at all and eventually it's time to say goodbye to the guilt and hello to a new heart you can use to heal those who have been affected by your mistakes. anyways, God bless
I honestly struggle a lot with it and it impacts my whole life. I worry about if God is telling me things or it’s my OCD. It’s hard to deal with this in therapy or with faith leaders because it is so obscure and neither one can really say one way or the other
@OCDMM This is what is the most impactful for me. I’m constantly worried if God is telling me or it’s my ocd. Like before I was watching a video and I thought it was God telling me to give up something. It gave me anxiety and distress and this happens all the time
@anthonycaronna Some guy posted on here that he wrote a book called waging war against OCD. I ended up buying and reading it. It didn’t all apply to me but he did talk about how to discern God’s word. It’s hard when it’s not black or white. Like if the voice tells you to sin it’s not God but it’s very fuzzy when it’s not something that’s not biblical. I’ve heard pastors and this guy basically say that God doesn’t want to micromanage our lives. But I can’t say that I don’t struggle with this still literally every single day still. These things have helped but haven’t eliminated my fears
@OCDMM I do still recommend the book, though. I highlighted quite a few things that gave me comfort
@OCDMM Wow that’s like what I’m going through. Mine is like going after things that I’m praying for and my goals and desires. It’s hard when you think all the time that God said no to your prayer and your desires (the non sinful ones obv). It causes much anxiety and it seems real all the time
@anthonycaronna I’m sorry you’re going through this. This theme is the one I can’t kick. I’ve been dealing with it for so many years. I did watch a video of Mark DeJesus’ where he said if you pray and ask God if it’s his will that you do x that you want to do, your brain will always tell you no. I just had to make a huge career decision and was so afraid that the voice of God was telling me to leave the job I wanted to stay at. But it wasn’t a super clear message, it left me being like, “but did God mean this or that?”My psychiatrist is a Christian and she told me that she believes God speaks to us but necessarily through thoughts in our head and that if we get it wrong, he’ll end up leading us where we need to be through circumstances based on her personal experience in her life. She said if it’s do or don’t do x or this bad thing will happen then you can be confident that’s OCD talking
@OCDMM I know it’s horrible. I have many goals and desires and I have my own opinions on many things. I believed all my life that God granted us free will and he lets us choose our desires and goals unless they hurt yourself/others or are sinful. However with OCD, it attacks everything. It makes me try to believe contradicting to what I believe and will tell me that God said no to all my preferences and my prayers. It feels so real, it’s as if he really did say no. I’m speaking to a pastor and he gives me insight of how God really is so that helps a lot but it’s still a struggle to deal with. When this voice said leave this job did it causes anxiety and distress?
@anthonycaronna I am glad you are working with a pastor. I think that is so important, I don’t have anyone I really feel comfortable talking to. I ended up calling two different pastors in different states of churches I googled that allow you to talk to one of their pastors. I asked what I should do about the voice I heard. I was so embarrassed about my struggle that I didn’t want anyone to know. They both basically said that it doesn’t matter if I get it right or wrong as long as I believe, which I do, and that God’s grace allows us to get it wrong if it was him and he won’t leave us. Yes, it caused so much anxiety and stress, I felt paralyzed. I couldn’t do anything except try to figure out if it was God or not and what he wanted me to do. It was hard to function. I googled so many things thinking I could find an answer which of course I didn’t
@OCDMM Then my guess was that it wasn’t God. What my pastor told me that if something was from God it would be peaceful and pure happiness. He said it would be a peace beyond this universe. My pastor has really helped me digging deep into what’s God and what’s ocd. I have this specific thing that I’m praying for and I feel as if God said no to my prayer even though I had not recollection of him actually saying and they just came as thoughts. My pastor said that God wouldn’t say no to something like that and that he would actually desire for what I’m praying for to occur. He said though he can’t force anyone to do anything. It made me feel better than I started to freak out again thinking that he actually said no
@anthonycaronna Thank you for these words! I am so glad your pastor can help you with this discernment. So many pastors don’t understand OCD, it sounds like you have a good one!
@OCDMM One of the main reasons he helps me is because he has OCD himself
It's really hard! My hardest theme. I was on Lexapro for 15 years and it recently pooped out. I got on Zoloft 2 days ago and hope it will help. Im also now in ERP therapy. I just keep reminding myself God is love and I cant come unto Christ while im in this OCD attack.
Trigger warning, I mention ideation. I use to feel extremely guilty, like better off not alive than sinful and alive. I explored other religion and spirituality with less harmful rhetoric on damnation and more in growth. Has really helped
Hi Anthony. I'm the author of Waging War Against OCD referenced above. (OCDMM - thanks again for the kind words!). This may sound overly simplistic, but I don't mean for it to sound that way at all, and I do think its one of the main things that can bring freedom. Grace is the answer. Once we start to grasp that our relationship with God is all b/c of His favor towards us....completely underserved by us.....then we start to see Him as a loving Father. And when we do, the fear of "messing up" what God had planned for us starts to go away. In my chapter on grace I give the anology of having a horrible ruthless boss, vs a loving one. If we have a horrible one we are watching our back, making sure we don't mess up, making sure we please him....if we have a loving one we have more freedom in making choices. We aren't so fearful to make the wrong one, b/c we know he is kind and merciful and will lead us in the right direction if we make a mistake. But FEELING this way is so foreign to all humanity b/c the world doesn't work this way....most people aren't kind and full of grace....so it takes consistent renewing of your mind until you start to live that way. I say that one of the hardest thing for an OCDer to do is to believe God is as good as He says He is. And I feel like once our hearts start to believe that then we begin to have freedom. Again, I hope this doesn't come across as a pat answer....grace is truly powerful in removing these types of obsessions - b/c it makes us realize its not our responsibility to make sure we didn't miss God's will, or somehow mess up so we won't get His blessings.
@Waging War Against OCD Thank you for your book! I have highlighted parts that really spoke to me and reference them when I start to go down my OCD rabbit hole
Mark DeJesus says some great things on this subject. I was listening to this one this week - I think you may find it very helpful....https://open.spotify.com/episode/4DG7l8ZCv2AGHMicbf4ZZ2?si=67GBm0mKQ_e6wHInt0lakQ
@Waging War Against OCD I would love to ask you a few questions if possible, I was praying/worshiping earlier today and as I was praying I heard this voice say “don’t” pertaining to the ceramics I want to get into and I tried to shake it off and while I was praying I feel like I was trying to find the “green light” from GOD that I could do my ceramic projects and so I started convincing myself that I was hearing GOD say yes to me then I felt super guilty and was like I can’t do the ceramics and then I was like maybe this is punishment for having a thought in my mind a few days prior when I was thinking how good and cool my ceramic pieces would be and playing out this interaction in my head if how my mom would think I was gifted and talented (and I repented that day too because I felt that thought was super prideful), but after that day I continued with what I was doing and felt good but now because I was in worship and prayer and heard “don’t” I feel I would be disrespecting and disobeying GOD if I did my ceramics! I know this is A LOT to take in so no rush to reply, it is a lot of digest but I just wanted a Christian perspective and background because I am also a Christian and wanted to move in the right direction! I also think it is so kind and supportive of you to come in here and share such encouraging wisdom and knowledge with us who are struggling! It is seriously such a blessing! Thank you! It touched my heart when I saw your response to @anthonycaronna Thank you!!
I am suffering from religious OCD for the past 32 years. When I am practising disregarding my OCD fires back with strong thoughts of until when u r going to disregard. When I say to myself God is with me it fires back with thoughts of what God has done until now. You will never recover. May I ask you what is this. Azhar from India
I am a Christian and I was wondering with religious OCD that if you give in to a compulsion does that mean you agree with the thought or actually want it?
Hey, guys. So, I feel like a lot of my scrupulosity ocd is emotions/feelings. Like, I get these impressions and feelings of being evil. I really feel like I am whatever I’m afraid of being in that moment. And I’m really confused by this, since ocd is about thoughts, right? Is that how it is for you guys too?
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