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- 5y ago
Right now, I feel convinced about the thoughts. I felt aroused about thinking of same sex scenarios. I feel sick and just lost. I just read something on quora , and it made me just so confused. I really hate this, I’m so sad. I don’t want to think about my sexuality 24/7.
@esosa !!!! Tik tok triggers me so much! There’s triggers everywhere because man, this generation is so accepting that everyone is free to be gay/bi/lesbian and any other sexuality.
She doubted it, but maybe in another way than we do it. We analyze it, we think about it constantly, we get triggered by nearly everything sexual and we don’t like the thought. It’s intrusive with HOCD.
@advice It’s sad to hear that, but I think if you have HOCD it’s normal to have days like these. I hope you will get better soon. Do yourself a favour and AVOID forums like „quora“. Believe me, since 2 weeks I avoided every forum (expect this) because it drove me crazy! Especially quora and reddit! As soon as I quit searching for answers on forums like these, I started feeling better and I could handle my uncertainty MUCH better! On forums like these sometimes there are people who will generalize their experience on all other people. Especially people without (!) HOCD/OCD. It’s good to ask for help or to share feelings on forums like this app because we can understand each other better as we all suffer from the SAME issue, but other pages will drive you crazy and male you sick as a HOCD-sufferer. There will come better days, believe me! ❤️✨ sending my best wishes to you
Thank you, have you ever felt this way? Like convinced and aroused ?
Yes, a hundred times! Like I can’t tell you how often I felt this way. Same sex scenarios can also turn straight people on, there are plenty of girls which also have sex with the same sex but don’t are homosexual or love the same sex in a romantic way. So many sexual things can arouse humans. And I felt so often convinced. I had like thousand moments where I said to myself „Accept it. You‘re lesbian“ but after that, the relief didn’t come. The thoughts started again. And this is because of your mental illness: HOCD. Your thoughts are your symptoms, nothing else.
I was on tik tok today (I know, sue me) and there was this one where this girl who is bi said that she didn’t come out till 17 because she shoved the possibility of liking women so far down, that she doubted it. Like the silly person I am, I immediately started analyzing my past. I also feel guilty for not liking girls? Like I’m supposed to because I’ve questioned it but I don’t so it’s like I’m wrong?? If that makes sense.
@advice? As it should be. Coming from a Christian household despite being reluctant to speak up on it, it never made sense to me of how people within the LGBT community are treated. But because of that (which isn’t anyone’s fault) it makes it more confusing as to whether we’re truly suffering or preventing ourselves from living the lives that we “want” or should have.
@MentalHelp that makes so much sense!
And: she doubted that she is gay, we doubt that we are straight! I think it’s not the same...
It’s ridiculous how much people discussing HOCD bothers me. I know it’s a form of OCD, which I understand is out of the person’s control. I know mental illness is not a choice. I have OCD, so I get it. I get invasive thoughts about being hetero, so it makes sense that it works the other way too. I know the people who have HOCD aren’t necessarily homophobic. It does kind of make me feel like my sexuality is a worst case scenario, though. I can’t help but think “people are as afraid of being like me, as I am of heart attacks”. Idk. It just almost feels like people are saying “oh no what if I’m gay” “don’t worry, you’re straight. You’re okay because you’re straight” (which I know isn’t the case). It could just be because of the lack of positivity I’ve seen surrounding the queer community lately, though. I’m not trying to call out or invalidate people with HOCD though, I know it’s something that they don’t enjoy, and it’s something they suffer with just as much as I suffer with my OCD. Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest
A little clarification on my (and many others’) experience with HOCD. Yes, “I don’t care what my sexuality is, I just wanna know for sure” makes the case for HOCD stronger and more ‘qualified’ sounding- however that is not the only HOCD can manifest. Saying that, can trigger some HOCD sufferers who are simply weary of identifying as lgbtq (an understandable fear). Do NOT get me wrong however. I would do ANYTHING for my friends who are bi and gay. I love them SO dearly and will fight for them for forever. Lgbtq folk who struggle with their identities, and not being loved by the people who are supposed to love them no matter what- INSPIRE me with their resilience. Their strength. Their confidence to live out who they are to the fullest extent. I watched the movie Love, Simon and cried like a baby, and am incredibly excited that Pete Buttigieg is the USA’s first openly gay presidential candidate. However this does not discount the struggles that many lgbtq people face. So many are not accepted by their families, have extremely difficult life transitions, and agonize over coming out. These are not things that people willingly want to go through. Is is completely unreasonable for someone suffering with HOCD to also fear these things? As an example (I’m black)- there is a difference in saying that you wouldn’t want to be black because you believe we are less than, versus saying that you wouldn’t want to struggle with the same things that we do. Just because you understand the trials and tribulations that black people go through in this country and would not want that for yourself, does NOT mean you are racist. It simply means you understand that there is pain. And no human willingly wants pain. Although these are exact things lgbtq people have to deal with (making HOCD distinctly different from most other pure o themes because it becomes impossible to differentiate us from people actually struggling with their identity) it shouldn’t be ignored that HOCD sufferers fear them too! Why wouldn’t we? This is such a deep rooted issue for sufferers because, where you could say someone who is suffering with POCD would never hurt a child simply because their thoughts horrify them (and a real pedophile wouldn’t be scared of their thoughts) you can’t say the same for HOCD. For some of us HOCD people who have these specific fears, it’s even more difficult to trust that what we have is ocd and it’s even more difficult to explain to someone else that what we have is ocd. I’ve had different themes of OCD throughout my life and the obsessive and compulsive behaviors have been the same, but this one makes me feel like I don’t even get to qualify. What a mind-fuck for us, huh? Also understand, this definitely isn’t my only fear. I have been attracted to, day-dreamed about, and desperately wanted to be with one gender my entire life. Having a husband was something I’ve wanted for so very long. It IS a part of who I am and what I want. It’s distressing to think this could all be lost one day. To have these ‘dreams’ stolen by obsessive thoughts, and be made to believe that it was all a lie- is just as hard to deal with as any other form of ocd. When I envision the life that ocd is telling me I “actually” want- I’m filled with sadness. How do any of the rest of you deal with your ocd telling you that you want (or want to do) something- that you actually don’t? I know this can be controversial, and truly truly hope I do not offend anyone- lgbtq friends, I truly do love you. I just want everyone to know that what we can struggle with within each theme, can be very different- but none are any less important or qualified than the others. If you truly disagree and want to share, please be kind. I am just as fragile as a lot of us on here. I’m suffering too.
I like this app but unfortunately I just don't seem to get the support I need. Feel so alone. I see other people post and lots of people relate to what they are going through and always reply. I just don't seem to find that. (harm ocd sufferer) when I say hocd most people think I mean homosexual ocd. I know we aren't supposed to ask for reassurance and I'm not really just would be nice to find someone who suffers the same and gets what I'm going through.
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