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- mark1991
- Date posted
- 6y ago
I think it’s spot on for a lot of us!! At least I know it is for me!!
My therapist always tells me I have “all or nothing” thinking. It’s either perfect or a disaster, no in between
Totally! I never thought of myself as a perfectionist but looking back after my therapist pointed it out, holy cow. Always caring so much about doing well and receiving praise and affirmation and everyone liking me. Which I think is related to my “reassurance seeking” compulsions. I need constant reassurance that I’m smart, likable, successful, and I get that reassurance from getting good grades (back in the day), or doing well at work, pleasing my parents, and people liking me- basically being a perfectionist. And it’s not about trying to be perfect all the time, because I don’t try to be perfect all the time. But there’s a definite sense of self loathing or disappointment in myself when I’m not. I’m getting better at it though.
How do we work thru perfectionism? What does ERP look like for this?
@roxacres Wow, I do that all the time. My boyfriend always says “you don’t have to be liked by everyone”, “you can say no”, “it’s okay to mess up” and stuff like that. When we get into a fight, even a little argument, I feel I need to fix it right away because he’s going to stop loving me or something. I always seek approval through others like teachers, parents, friends, my boyfriend, and God. I had no idea this was perfectionism.
Perfectionism is definitely a part of OCD for some people. There’s a concept of “maladaptive perfectionism” which means that you are too perfectionist.
I listen to a lot of ocd podcasts and watch a lot videos read a lot of articles. And I’m recently feeling a bit worried when I hea stories about how ocd has manifested in other people’s lives. A lot of people talk about experiencing some perfectionism as a kid, often counting or being afraid of germs. I don’t temper experiencing such things. I don’t think I’ve ever struggled with contamination ocd. I’ve only really struggled with pure o types of ocd. This leads me to worry “maybe it’s not ocd.” Does anyone else feel this way?
I find it helpful to distinguish between pure O and OCD because, while I do have some triggers in my environment, they’re not consistent enough to really establish a theme, and most of the time I’m triggering myself with my own thoughts. For years I didn’t think I had OCD anymore because my OCD was so adaptive, and I had no physical compulsions, besides reassurance seeking and avoidance, but the compulsions were so covert that I rarely, if ever, noticed them. It wasn’t until reading about Pure O that I was able to expand my understanding of OCD as a WAY of thinking rather than a strict set of obsessions and compulsions. As I learned about how my OCD had creeped into the way I thought about practically everything, I became envious of those whose OCD was traceable in a specific theme, e.g. contamination (although I know this is an oversimplification, and people with contamination OCD don’t have an easier time with OCD at all), because I felt like OCD was always two steps ahead of me, distorting my thinking about things big and small. Now that I’ve gained some serious ground, I can see OCD in every area of my life through the way it distorts, but it’s still a constant battle, and I have to do mental exposures all the time. It would’ve been helpful though for people to explain that thoughts can also be triggers, because that distinction kept me in the dark for years. I thought “oh, I don’t have OCD, because there’s not a SPECIFIC trigger I can trace all my obsessions back to.” No—my obsessions are also my triggers, and they are also my compulsions, combining into one great maddening combustible mass that becomes so circular that it’s impossible to figure out where it started. I hope that people can understand this and not just think of OCD in its most stereotypical form. I suffered from harm and morality obsessions when I was really young, and I prayed and tapped and did all sorts of things that made it much easier to diagnose back then, but since then, 20 some odd years later, OCD had crept in the back door in a way that was much more difficult to track, and I spent countless hours and money on therapy that made me worse. It’s frustrating to think back on all the lost time, especially KNOWING I had OCD as a child, and that it duped me for so long afterwards in college and young adulthood. I’m more accepting towards it now, but I just really can’t emphasize enough how important it is for people to understand that OCD is not limited by “themes”, and that it uses anything to its advantage. The good thing is that once we realize that, the common denominator of OCD-thinking is easier to recognize in day to day life.
hey y’all i was wondering if any of yall believe the stereotype that people with OCD are perfectionists? i just remember from a little girl up until now i forced myself to over achieve and be good at everything and anything i did. whether that be from doing well in school, to excelling in extra curriculars to even how i present myself physically and in social situations. was never happy with myself as a person until this summer when i finally became comfy with who i was... then this shit just took over. it’s like my brain needed something to find wrong in myself. idk im just wondering if yall think these “perfectionist” type symptoms are pre-requisites to OCD generally
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