- Username
- Terrie Browning
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- Therapist
- Date posted
- 5y ago
I find separating triggers and thoughts easy enough, but separating obsessions from compulsions more difficult, especially when your compulsions are things like mental rumination.
Thank you for your input. It is much appreciated! I agree that the obsessive thought tends to run right into the compulsion. It’s hard to slow down enough to catch these things isn’t it!
For me at least, sometimes when you have mental compulsions, it almost feels like there is an “automatic transition” from obsession to compulsion. What I do is this, when that happens: 1) I first identify that I just did a mental compulsion (mental compulsions is when I purposely try to push my thoughts out of my head by reassuring myself, reviewing past events, etc) 2) then after I identify the mental compulsion, I accept the thought saying “maybe this (insert thought) is true, I’ll accept the uncertainty”. This gives me an opportunity to practice response prevention in the moment.
@NOCD Advocate - Stephen Smith By practicing response prevention after I did the compulsion, I look at this as a “retry”
I like the “retry”! Thank you for breaking that down too. That’s very helpful!
My compulsions are physical (i.e. touching the stove to ensure it's off). I already know hours in advance that I will start becoming anxious at a specific time of the day and will start doing compulsions. Once I start a compulsion, it is very difficult for me to stop because I know I'm letting my emotions overtake my logical thinking. I have to stop and think outloud, "What is it going to take for me to get this!" Then I panic and go back to doing the compulsion.
I've been through scary moments in the past and was able to get through it, so I'm asking myself why can't I get over this dumb fear !? The fear now is "being okay" with not doing any compulsions rather than the feared "worst case scenario" (stove causing a fire) because I already know the latter is highly unlikely.
I find my compulsions sometimes hard to identify too like maybe sometimes I don’t know if it is an obsession or a compulsion I don’t know if I am obsessing about a past event or if it is a compulsion to prove a point (that I am a terrible personn, a narcissist,...)
It makes a lot of sense. And sorry for the late reply. Thank you all for your posts, it’s super helpful for others to know they are not alone in these situations. I hear so often, how difficult it is to separate the trigger from the obsessive thought and to separate the compulsion from the obsessive thought. That’s why I call it a toxic cycle! It feeds itself. The self monitoring worksheet is very helpful. It breaks it down and possibly will help you to think differently about each part. I like to recommend that you listen to your body - when it starts to become uncomfortable, just that small flutter of worry, that is the obsessive thought. Sometimes it’s easier to think of the unwanted thought. The thought you are thinking that you don’t want to think but do not seem to have control over. Catch the thought and you can back track to the trigger. See a trained ERP therapist and they can help you do this. Once you have separated the trigger from the unwanted thought, image, urge it is much easier to see the behavior you are doing to distract, suppress, neutralize or make that though go away! Let me know what you think and thanks again for being here.
Hi bluegrass, I couldn’t pull that up but I can assure you there are lots of examples of the worksheet online, try therapistaid. You can find all kinds of workbooks etc. However, these tools are much more successful when you work with a professional that has been trained to do ERP. I shared a post about being a therapist for 20yrs. I’ve worked with many OCD clients using CBT and since joining NOCD I have been extensively trained to use ERP. My clients are more successful and obtained positive benefits - moments of peace from their obsessive thoughts came much quicker using ERP. I hope that is helpful!
Hello! I'm new here and new to OCD. My therapist suggested I might have OCD due to my tendency to ruminate endlessly on doubts and fears. These thoughts are indeed intrusive and I can't seem to stop them. The thing I'm kind of stuck on is that I can't see where the compulsions come in. Unless the thoughts themselves are compulsions. Can anyone relate to this?
Hey everyone. I’ve noticed after starting NOCD I’ve become aware of just how “bad” I am regarding my mental health. Triggers and obsessions I never was aware of. I feel like before therapy I managed my day with a big blanket of denial. Now the cover is off and I see all my OCD and feel broken. Much worse than I thought I was. Did anyone else get worse before getting better? I feel like I’m obsessed now with OCD. Irony :(
I'm reaching out in hopes of finding others who might relate to my experiences or offer insights. I'm dealing with a complex interplay of OCD, depression, and existential anxiety, and I'm struggling to make sense of it all. Here's what I'm experiencing: I have OCD with various manifestations, along with episodes of depression. I find myself in a cyclical pattern where, after a few weeks, I start to remind myself about my depressive tendencies. This reminder seems to trigger a cycle that actually makes me feel more depressed or at least more aware of depressive symptoms. When this happens, I often experience feelings of nihilism and existential dread. I try to think about my family - my two young boys and my wife - to find motivation or a sense of purpose, but this strategy often backfires, making me feel even more anxious and depressed. I constantly check my feelings, wondering if they're depressive or anxious. At the same time, I fear that my feelings of anxiety and panic might spiral out of control. I think about my emotions and thoughts on a meta-level, which means I'm not just experiencing feelings, but I'm also constantly analyzing the fact that I'm experiencing them. There's an existential component to my struggles, a fear of depression and anxiety itself, and a sense that this might be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Perhaps most frustratingly, I often have feelings, thoughts, or sensory experiences that I can't explain or put into words. I feel like I've never heard of these before, which leaves me feeling deeply misunderstood. Does anyone else experience something similar? How do you cope with this complex web of symptoms and experiences? I'm particularly interested in hearing from those who've found ways to break the cycle of meta-cognition and self-fulfilling anxiety. Any insights, shared experiences, or strategies would be deeply appreciated. Thank you for your time and understanding.
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