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OCD is often triggered by stress. But your exact theme has more to do with your values, not your circumstances. Plenty of people with OCD can go through breakups and not get that theme. But whatever themes and triggers they do struggle with will likely feel more intense due to general stresses of going through a breakup. You aren’t going to figure out exactly why you have this theme and even if you could it would do absolutely nothing to help you recover. What you need is ERP with an ocd specialist, CBT, and mindfulness training. STOP trying to figure this out. That’s a compulsion. Lean into uncertainty: “maybe this is caused by my breakup. Or maybe it’s caused by something else. I don’t know and I don’t need to know.” STOP comparing your attraction to you ex and all other men. That’s a compulsion. When you feel the urge to do this, remind yourself: “checking this is a compulsion, and compulsive checking when you have ocd only leads to more uncertainty, not less.” STOP reading stories online. This is also a compulsion. Internet research is super common and it’s about seeking reassurance. These stories will not help you. Do people break up and then come out as gay? YUP! Does that mean that’s what’s happening or will happen to you? Of course not. And reading these stories over and over again to “make sure” isn’t going to make you any more sure at all. You can tell this is OCD and not an actual case of coming to understand more about your sexuality because of everything I listed above: obsession, compulsion, repeat. Textbook OCD cycle.
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Thank you, this helps a lot. But of course my mind just thinks "yeah, but" or "what if" and it's a never ending cycle. Also, I read coming out stories because I thought that was a form of erp but all it does is trigger me. For example, if I can relate to their experiences or "signs" then I start freaking out. And no matter what I try to do whether it's read a book, watch a movie, exercise, work, my mind just keeps telling me "your gay" "come out" "your in denial" "your forcing yourself to like men" it's so exhausting and gives me anxiety. I just want to be normal
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@a01 It sounds like you’re confused about how to do ERP. ERP is supposed to trigger you! That’s the whole idea. And then you’re supposed to resist compulsions during and after being triggered (ie to not engage in any of the things I already pointed out and instead lean into uncertainty.) You mind will always find a “yeah, but” or “what if.” That’s OCD in action. It’s up to you how you respond. You can: perform compulsions to try to answer those questions or reason with each point endlessly OR lean into uncertainty, accept all possibilities, and move on. Let the anxiety and fear just be and leave on its own when it’s ready.
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@pureolife PS you are 100% normal.. for someone with OCD. And luckily we’ve developed a lot of great treatments that do work with ocd and we can improve over time with proper treatment. Are you able to see an ocd specialist?
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You will never be able to convince yourself that it's ocd .......... Trust your behaviours - if you're doing compulsions or if you're ruminating then most likely it's ocd
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You’re ruminating and engaging in a reassurance and checking compulsion to try and answer it.
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So what is the difference between someone who is questioning or in denial of their orientation and someone who is experiencing ocd?
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@a01 That’s not a question anyone can really answer with the kind of clarity OCD would demand. The issue isn’t that you’re having the types of thoughts you’re having, it’s the obsessing and ritualizing you’re doing around the thought. Like checking for reassurance or trying to answer if you do or don’t have OCD.
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@NOCD Advocate - Carl Cornett I don't know what to do anymore my mind is making me so depressed
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@a01 There’s treatment that is very effective and works. That usually involves some sort of medication and ERP.
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The thing is idk if it's really ocd because I've never been diagnosed. And I've been to 3 different therapists who specialize in ocd and whenever I tell them my thoughts and what I'm experiencing they make the indication to explore my past and my sexuality or my relationships etc. Which is not what I need to do. I'm also so scared that it gets to a point where I become crazy or suicidal or not able to live a normal life. My bf of 8 years just broke up with me because I was "too much" and now nobody is going to want to be with me I'm just so depressed
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It sounds like you’ve gone to therapists who actually have no understanding of pure O themes. They probably work with contamination clients or other people with overt compulsions but not mental compulsions. That’s a common hurdle to run up against in getting treatment (happened to me!) and I’m so sorry. Their advice would be fine for someone without ocd but for someone with pure o themes it’s actually harmful. I’m also sorry to hear about your bf. OCD can take so much from us when it’s not managed properly and we’re not given the correct resources and education. Are you able to work with the therapists available on this app? They are well versed in mental compulsions and pure O. I’ve been exactly where you are and I’m sorry you’re suffering right now. I promise that with proper treatment OcD is actually very manageable for most people and you can/will feel happier and more in control of your life. If you can’t work with therapists in this app, just be sure you’re seeking out someone who’s worked with pure O clients — even better with people with HOCD themes. Ask those questions up front and don’t waste your time with anyone who hasn’t heard of this. Also know that that’s unfortunately very common in modern mental health care. That’s why I had to seek out an OCD specialist at an OCD center who diagnosed me right away as a pretty classic case after others failing to do so. I worked with her for about 7 months and regained so much of my life back. Recovery is very realistic, you just need the right help!
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@a01 Maybe start with an ocd workbook or other readings while you seek out a qualified therapist. And just let yourself grieve for awhile. You lost someone important and that feeling of loss will take time to heal.
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Sorry long post. Anyone feel like now they’re just in extreme denial. Like when I was little I noticed guys more than girls in movies and was more drawn to them. I remember changing my mindset to switch that. 98%of my life has been straight until recently. I felt drawn to some guys but never thought of it sexually. Always had girl crushes dreams and porn. Now I watch porn and I feel like straight takes longer and then I go and watch gay porn and feel nothing until I tell myself it’s two attractive dudes and love is love and imagine physical sensations and then it hits like suddenly. Like I have to convince myself it’s alright. Then when I try again I can do all that but feel nothing and then straight porn works. Idk if it’s just getting a fix or the first time works with anything or what but it’s confusing. On top of that I’ve felt girl relationships including my wife maybe miss something and a guy maybe matches that feeling that but then I feel like I’d be missing something without a girl or my wife. Idk I’ve had some rough times in life with male figures in my life but idk. I feel like I have to convince myself more and more that I’m straight even more than the first time I dealt with this. Can someone relate? Please
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Like I can’t think straight. This is making me doubt everything I’ve thought about myself and even makes me feel like I like the thoughts when I know I don’t. Like I would be less anxious at a time while I still have the thoughts and my mind would go “oh so you like it you must be gay” or the other one where I’m not anxious and I think of my attraction for girls that I’ve had my whole life and my mind goes “see now you’re not into them you’re gay” like it’s so stupid but so effective. I clearly remember being into girls my whole life but my mind is making me believe that all these attractions and feelings for women were all fake or “a thing of the past”. But I can still get aroused by women but I have this weird anxiety going on which brings these sensations/feelings and it’s so weird. Today I’ve spent my whole day thinking about it like I’ve been doing for 5 months now. I know that this aint normal but my mind just won’t let me live in peace. I never cared about my sexuality cuz I simply liked women my whole life but now my sexuality is a fundamental philosophy. I hate this.
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I don't know for sure if I have HOCD, but it seems like I do, I tried to accept the idea that I'm gay, I felt calm, and then I started to get scared because I didn't feel anxiety anymore, I still feel attracted to my girlfriend, both physically and emotionally, but I feel an attraction to boys, sometimes I panic when I feel attracted and sometimes I don't (but most of the time I do) and I don't want to break up with my girlfriend I want to get back to normal
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