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Only way is to slowly go up your hierarchy. You MUST watch these movies. The anxiety will feel terrible, maybe you’ll panic, maybe you won’t, maybe you’ll feel the most uncomfortable you’ve ever felt. But you MUST watch them and do ERP. slowly build up, watch trailers, maybe write a script or read about serial killers. I did all of those and I never get harm OCD anymore.
Wait, youd did that and dont have harm ocd anymore??? Wow, there is hope after all, so theres a chance i can get out of this stupid cycle ive been in for the last 2 years and use this strategy to get rid of other ocd.
That’s awesome you got rid of it. Did you write a script about yourself, or just any old script of random characters and something horrible?
@Usern4me Yes I actually promise you it will work. But it’s going to very very uncomfortable. It took me around 4 months of consistent work. To the point where I was able to listen to serial killer podcasts etc. and feel fine. I just eventually decided it’s a lot of negative energy LOL and stopped listening to them but it got to the point where the thoughts no longer bothered me and now whenever I even feel the slightest bit of an episode, it moves on as quickly as it came. I believe in you!!!
@charleejadeg How consistent did you watch, and did you do it on your own or with a therapist?
@charleejadeg One more question! How slowly do you work through the heriarchy? Do you expose to one thing until you’re no Longer anxious and then move on? Sorry for the questions! I want to learn as much as I can :-)
@kitty5280 No worries! Sorry I was off the forum for a while but when I had harm OCD I didn’t even know what it was. I was scared as all get out. I was pretty consistent with exposures and what I watched, like every week. I tried not to say no to fear, and sometimes the fear would last all day. Into the night and give me vivid nightmares. I honestly was terrified of myself. But overtime, after every exposure, Everytime I learned I could handle it. And it eventually left. I wasn’t seeing an OCD therapist at the time as I didn’t know what was wrong with me and I was afraid of telling anyone, so I just tried to act like I was normal and do normal people things and not avoid situations and it eventually just passed. Also with the hierarchy question, I worked probably a slow build. It wasn’t until the second month that I could even be in the room with someone watching murder shows (my mom lol loved them), but overtime i learned strength and confidence. I reccomend working slowly for the first month, and then picking up the pace the second month. For me, the first month and building confidence was crucial. You got this !!
@charleejadeg Also!! The thoughts would still come to me a month or so after recovery, and occasionally will like ONCE a month. Or once every two months, but yeah, as far as I’m concerned. I’m free of harm OCD. I also conquered TOCD and HOCD the same way. Slow build up to exposures and letting the thoughts exist. A year and a half later , I’m dealing with a relapse BUT my themes are completely different now. My brain doesn’t even care for harm ocd thoughts anymore.
@charleejadeg Thanks for the info! How long did it take to recover from that theme? You did an amazing job!
@kitty5280 It took probably around 4-5 months.
Dont quote me but im pretty sure thats one of the ways. Like ive read of people watching serial killer documentaries to get over harm ocd n stuff like that so im pretty sure that your idea could also work as well. And to be totally honest, i used to love watching jason, freddy, michael myers, leatherface and all that good stuff when i was a kid, but now since i have also develo Harm ocd i find it hard to watch and i also question what it means that i liked those movies.
I think imaginal exposures should be done before watching horror movies. And some movies today are so violent that it may not be worth. Maybe watch an older horror movie so that there are still triggers (knives etc etc) but you don't have to deal with today's gore. Often you can find the trigger scenes on YouTube. For my religious ocd I watched the "Six Names" sequence from The Exorcism of Emily Rose. Just the YouTube seen several times was enough for an exposure -I don't particularly think there would be a therapeutic benefit to me seeing the whole movie.
What type of imaginary exposures?
@kitty5280 Harm OCD right? Imagine yourself seeing a Halloween decoration and then snapping and killing someone. Or heck find your local spirit Halloween store and buy a few plastic knives to keep around your room. If you want to build up to a horror movie maybe right your own Horror short story to prep your mind for that kind of content.
@RogueKing Thank you for the ideas. I’ve read a lot about imaginary exposures but what is the goal when we imagine ourselves doing awful things? I know those things are helpful in recovery, but why exactly? Gives me such anxiety.
@kitty5280 Same as a normal exposure. Cause anxiety levels. Don't compulse. Force brain to hit its hardware limitations. It can't sustain anxiety forever. Continue exposure until anxiety / suds level drops by itself/habitation.
Okay, so for the most part, if you have harm ocd/intrusive thoughts, you’ll understand (hopefully). If you haven’t seen, everyone is talking about the Netflix documentary “Dahmer”. Most harm ocd sufferers (myself included) that I’ve gotten to know all struggle with fears of being evil in any way (like a sociopath/narcissistic, etc). Do we need to make ourselves watch it? Even some of my friends without OCD say they couldn’t do it. The reason I don’t want to watch it is because I’m afraid it’ll trigger me. I’ll look for any common traits (this is what I do) and it’ll send me into a panic attack. But aren’t we SUPPOSED to on purpose watch things that bring us distress? The series has everyone talking about mental health and it SUCKS because OCD is considered “mental health” and I feel like it lumps us all into a giant category. Everything true crime triggers my harm ocd. I don’t even want to know humans are capable of such things because then it reminds me “it’s all possible”. I don’t know if I explained it well, but does ANYONE understand where I’m coming from 🥺🥺🥺🥺
I got diagnosed in October (even tho I’ve had very obvious symptoms since I was a young kid in hindsight) and started ERP soon after. At first, ERP seemed to make sense to me. The whole idea of exposing yourself to your triggers and overtime learning that there’s no real threat there, and learning to tolerate anxiety. But during this holiday season my harm theme has come up a bit again, due to being home with my family and their playing violent shows on TV. And it occurred to me that there seems to be no winning with ERP. I would sit there watching the violent shows with my family, and try my hardest to resist any mental compulsions, but then just be left feeling horrible and anxious all day. And I realized that I actually DON’T WANT to be desensitized to violence. I don’t want to get to a point where violent thoughts don’t make me anxious, because I think that would make me a less empathetic and less pure-hearted person. To get even more specific, if I have an intrusive thought that says “what if I kill my family like I just saw in that tv show?” the ERP response would be “maybe I will kill my family, maybe I won’t”. BUT THAT’S AWFUL. That just sounds stupid to me. How is anyone supposed to say such a thing or “accept uncertainty” about that?? I would rather keep doing my mental compulsion of blocking out the thought than even entertaining the “uncertainty” that I could hurt my family. So it’s like, if I let the violent thoughts be there, my options are 1: feel horrible all the time (which I think is an appropriate response to having horrible thoughts, but it’s still not a fun way to live), or 2: if I try to push them out, that’s supposedly a compulsion which is supposedly making the OCD worse, so there no winning in either scenario for me. Can anyone relate? What am I missing here? There’s gotta be a better solution or something I’m not understanding about ERP, right?
Suffer from Harm OCD (fear of stabbing a loved one mainly) and used to love horror movies, but now I'm pretty terrified of watching them because I fear I'll trigger my intrusive thoughts even more. Anyone have experience with this? Advice?
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