- Date posted
- 4y
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- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
This sounds like advice from a person who doesn’t understand OCD. I like to think there’s a difference between feelings being “real” and “true”. OCD makes me feel a lot of feelings and sensations that are real and exist but that doesn’t mean they have any truth about me and what I want (my theme is ROCD AND SOOCD) People have feelings that don’t align with who they are all the time! It’s ridiculous that this woman wants everyone to unpack every single feeling and sensation a person might have. Honestly I’d stray from getting advice from people who don’t have any understanding of what OCD can do to a person and how it tricks you.
- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 4y
It’s also possible that she meant that people with OCD tend to try to push away the false feelings that OCD tricks them with and in that case I kinda understand what she might have been saying? Like we aren’t supposed to push the feelings away just disregard them as false and let them pass naturally either way that’s not how she said it and honestly i understand why that would be so triggering. It’s hard to find good specialists who really understand OCD! Hang in there :(
- Date posted
- 4y
First of all, I'm sorry you went through another triggering experience. On one hand, it's a good thing to be exposed to other people's opinions because it teaches you to rely on yourself rather than someone else's perspective in terms of OCD. It's a good exposure. On the other hand, it is still damaging because those of us with OCD take every word as truth from other people. We think that they must have figured out something that we, ourselves, haven't figured out yet. This is not true. If I had to guess, this particular person has no true understanding of obsessive compulsive behavior. Hypnotherapy is a freudian method, which relies HEAVILY on the meanings of thoughts. OCD needs the OPPOSITE of this method. It is NOT the best form of treatment to put OCD patients through hypnotherapy, as it only makes us feel more insecure and doubtful. What we use instead is called exposure response and prevention. This is derived from early classical conditioning and operant conditioning, wherein behavior is changed through facing fears and establishing new connections away from the fear. That process is called extinction. In short, we must put our thoughts through extinction through exposure. What I've noticed is that there are many therapists without proper understanding of OCD and treatment for patients. Take this person's advice with a grain of salt and learn to accept that there is a possibility that she is right, but deep down inside, you must acknowledge that you have OCD and it causes a lot of confusion and doubt within you. It takes so much effort to go through what you go through. Be kind to yourself and recognize how your brain works :) and stay off of platforms that do not have specialization in OCD!!! Have a great night.
- Date posted
- 4y
thank you so much! I really appreciate that!!
- Date posted
- 4y
thank you so much for your response @Kymyland ... the perspective in your second response is really interesting. ...The bio of the womans’ profile included: Counselor, Past Life Regression, Healer
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- 21w
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- Date posted
- 7w
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- Date posted
- 25d
If anyone who's had experience with sexual OCD can answer, please do Like actually, why am I no longer sure of my preferences. Why am I not sure whether I'm not attracted to something wrong. Why am I actually considering that may be the case, and why do I have moments where I feel neutral about these thoughts? The thoughts don't scare me as much, they do disturb me but they're not as scary - what's more scary is their possible meaning. At first, Sexual OCD feels like pure torment - intrusive thoughts and images looping in your head forever. But now? I still have the thoughts, and I've been told that anything from the thought itself to even a groinal response can be OCD related, and the more I go into ERP/ACT the more I feel like the fear is becoming real, even if it eases my anxiety somewhat. I'll put it briefly: I still don't want these disgusting thoughts to mean anything. I still don't wanna be a person that would act on them in any way. But OCD has made me even doubt this: "Do you really not want to act on these thoughts? Are you sure you aren't attracted to this? Are you?" and then that triggers checking, which only makes things worse because "Wait... would I say yes? Why would I ever do that? Did that reaction mean yes? Oh God, what if it did" I've been told I'm not actually who I fear and I can live with these thoughts and feelings, and I kinda do. But that hasn't stopped the doubt from creeping in, and feeling more real with every passing day. In fact, the lack of anxiety and panic makes it feel even more real, like I'm not actually having OCD symptoms. The less I fear, the harder the doubt hits. Picture this: 1. You're told to treat the thoughts as just thoughts, the feelings as just feelings 2. You do that, and you slowly start feeling better 3. But when OCD inevitably goes "but what if?", it seems stronger than before. All of a sudden you're panicking "maybe these things actually do mean something, oh no" ..that's my reality. It doesn't even feel like OCD anymore because it's nothing like the constant panic and dread I experienced in the beginning. But the dread and panic are still there, just more in the background - which doesn't make it any less distressing. And when you start falling into doubt, the rumination, checking, all the compulsions feel much more rational and warranted, they're automatic at this point. Also I tend to get thoughts like "but what if this is real", "but what if that thing that happened means something", "but what if this isn't ocd", "but why does it feel like you're denying it", "you're denying a real issue" - all of these basically keep me in the cycle. Is this meta-obsession? I do actually think that the thoughts, feelings, all of it could be pointing to a bigger issue, even if that's unlikely and the worst case scenario. I don't know if this just isn't poor insight, probably is (I've had poor insight since the beginning). If anyone could give any support or feedback, I'll greatly appreciate it 🙏
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