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Well done for getting control of your HOCD, as the person above said, try to use the same tools for your TOCD. You could look at it as “If I am trans that is okay. Currently I feel content as this gender. If i want to identify as something else in the future I can. I don’t have to decide right now.” Not sure if I’ve worded that right, but try to see it like you said “I have a bf now, but maybe I could be with a woman too and that is OKAY”. At the moment you are happy and that’s what matters. With your TOCD you could think see it in a similar way. I cannot speak for everyone, as I myself am not trans, but I think trans people often know they are actually a different gender to the one they are born as. It is highly likely that your OCD has latched onto this because being trans is more openly spoken about now and it provides you with another doubt. Also when I had bad HOCD, I tried to look at the fear driving the thought. For me I was scared of being homosexual because I thought it would mean I couldn’t possibly be with my bf. But then I learnt to accept it’s okay, if I am not straight, I am still in love and happy with my bf - so it doesn’t matter as long as I feel happy and okay. You could see the same with the TOCD - “it scares me to not know what gender I am.” “I have always been X gender and have felt secure as that until these thoughts” “if my thoughts are correct, that is okay, because at the moment I feel comfortable as X”. Also gender is a very fluid thing - personally I think that your TOCD is OCD but if there is something behind it who cares - you don’t have to change anything about your identity you don’t want too. It’s okay to be unsure and to go with how you feel right now, because it will become clear. If it’s a possibility for you, please try to get some therapy or professional advice - don’t suffer in silence xxx
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Thank you so much, these are some really good advice. I actually did therapy for a year and i take meds since last August. i've been doing pretty well since. But in quarantine is hard, sometimes i forget about all my progress and i worry about being in the same position as last year and that scares me. When the thoughts come back i'm like okay this is it, this time it must "mean something" and then i remember it's just the obsesions talking. Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, i appreciate it ❤️ have a lovely week
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@paufli Hi there, I haven’t been clinically diagnosed with OCD but after doing copious amounts of research I believe I do. I have been suffering with TOCD. I have never wished to be a boy or transition to be a boy or even dress like a boy. I have always been truly content with being a girl and I still am. But I remember in grade 7, mum and I were watching a documentary on a transgender male and his story. And it lowkey scared me bc I was like imagine living your life in the wrong gender that would be terrifying and then I randomly asked myself “am I transgender?” And that sent me into an orbit of distress. But then it literally went away and I realised how irrational it was. Over the past 4 years the thought would rarely pop up and I would realise that I don’t want to be a boy and that my brains just being a bitch. At one point in around grade 9/10 I was afraid I was lesbian (possibly HOCD - it was very distressful) but then I came to the realisation that I’m attracted to boys but I wouldn’t be oppposed to the idea of being with a woman if I was in love. But 2 months ago the thought popped up again (am I transgender?) in the holidays and I haven’t been able to get it out of my head. It has completely taken over my life and I can’t come to a definitive answer, it’s driving me f****** crazy!!!!! All I would do is research trans stories and ruminate and pull my hair out. I used to be so happy and so worry free but now I feel anxious and I can’t get some peace at mind. All I want is reassurance that I’m a cid female and that I’m not a male but I know that only feeds the OCD. I’m also terrified that one day I’ll wake up and will want to be a man and that I’ll have to transition. Or I’m scared that I’m might be in denial about being trans and that this whole ocd thing is just me lying to myself. I’m so sorry to spring this all on the internet but I honestly don’t know what to do or who to talk to. I wanna live my life as a woman but these trans intrusive thoughts are making me quesiton my core identity and it’s terrifying and I don’t what’s real and what’s not. :(
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This is so awful and I feel for you so much. I can literally feel the ocd anxiety on you. It’s awful. But it is lying. The thing that helped me the most in HOCD was I realised I don’t care if I’m homosexual or not. I know that does work for everyone but I just thought okay I like women, and then I realised maybe I do... but I like the person I’m with and who cares.
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I know it’s so hard but by saying it’s okay, it takes the power away from it.
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Thank u so much. It’s honestly so hard and terrible and my ocd is telling me that I don’t even have ocd. Ugh thank you though your replies mean so much!! ❤️
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Hey, first of all I’m so glad to hear you’ve gained control over hocd, I’m currently struggling with that so if you have any tips please share. For your TOCD, I would apply the same methods you did for hocd, you’ve been your gender your whole life, if you were any other gender you would know. You’ve got this!
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Thank you! I had hocd when i was 15 (im 22 now) and i managed to be okay with it by doing things that were out of my comfort zone, i went on an exchange to another country but that was actually for my Social anxiety but i think it helped me with ocd in some way. Just thinking okay im Happy now im proud of my little achievements, i don't have to worry about my sexualuty all the time, im not certain but that's okay, i don't need to be. I hope that helps you a little. Have a great week!
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Hi! I'm sorry to hear that, I totally get you. I know it's really hard and exhausting. I recomend you to get some professional help, that helped me a lot, now i'm taking meds and i feel better. The thoughts sometimes pop up again (specially before my period)but i also understand that everything is harder because we are in quarantine. I hope you feel better soon and don't worry you will get through this. If u ever need help you can talk to me. Have a wonderful week 🥰
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@tylee161
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Thank you so much, it means the world to know that I’m not alone and that I have someone to talk xxx
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@tylee161 @paufli
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Hi I'm a cis girl from India .I recently have this tocd for 22-23days .How are u feeling right now do u feel okay?
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and also before my tocd I had hocd which I guess is better than tocd
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Hi! Yes, i'm feeling okay. With medication and therapy everything is better. I hope you feel better soon 💜
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@paufli What kind of therapy did u get? I think it will be really nice if u share ur therapy experience.
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@deepikaaa Erp with cbt. It also helped me to read a book named overcoming intrusive thoughts by sally m. Winston
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@paufli Great, thanks for ur support!
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@paufli Between may I know ur age? I'm just 15 and it's really a hell in TOCD
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@deepikaaa I'm 23 but I was 21 when tocd appeared. I was 15 when I had my first intrusive thoughts about hocd. You'll get better, look for professional help and support from friends and family
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@paufli For how many months were u battling tocd? And for me it's really hard to find a therapist cause I'm from India
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@deepikaaa Which country are u from?
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@deepikaaa Argentina 🥰
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@paufli Was it easy to find a therapist there?
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This year was much better. Right now I'm feeling kinda down and a new obsession appeared, what if I'm asexual? But I'm trying to see it just like the other thoughts for now until I can talk to my therapis..t. I know it's hard but thinking "I'm not really sure right now and that's okay" helps letting go of anxiety at least for a moment. I hope you feel good
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I am a man from the Netherlands and I am in my early 40s. When I was 36 years old I became diagnosed with ADHD. At that period of my life I already have had treatment for borderline personality disorder. I might have an impulsive nature due to my ADHD, though unlike many people with BPD I don't act impulsively but I am hindered in my life by indecision and perfectionism. It wouldn't surprise me if I turn out to have OCD. Thanks to a blog from NOCD in which transgender OCD was described it became more clear to me my doubts and anxiety of possibly being a transgender + a coward because of remaining in denial for that, is more likely the cause of OCD. I noticed as well I made progress during the years, because of course it didn't take my doubts away, however I was able to believe dealing with uncertainty probably contributes more to my well-being than finding the answer of my doubts. This specific type of OCD keeps coming back, because it is a fact that I as a homosexual man am very insecure about my masculinity. I had experienced an unsafe childhood with emotional neglect from a mother with autism and also emotional abuse from a father with definitely traits of a narcissistic personality disorder. As an only child who also turns out to have ADHD I felt chronically lonely and grew up with the belief I was a complete failure: not only my actions were wrong, but also my thoughts and emotions. At school I was an outcast. I felt unsafe everywhere. I often escaped into daydreaming and fantasies, because for me it was the only way to bare the reality. As a child I was introvert, anxious and feminine. That's why I developed a feminine alter ego of myself in which I could escape in my fantasies. However I didn't develop an identity align with my biological sexe. When I hit puberty I became worried about it. I was convinced I eventually have to come out of the closet as a transvestite or transgender. I really didn't want that; I wanted to have a stable self-identity align with my biological sexe instead of regularly pretending to be a woman, because I am not a woman. However as you all know very well the suffering is about not having control over yourself. When I was 17 I decided to look for a psychologist, because I definitely didn't want to waste precious years of my life. I assumed a psychologist can help me, because I definitely am not the only homosexual man struggling with his masculinity and sexual orientation. I felt so much ashamed of myself I repeatedly held myself back explaining my problems, though I forced myself to speak up my mind; after all he can't help me if he doesn't know what it's all about. I was very disappointed he replied with "What are you complaining about? Count yourself lucky you live in the Netherlands where you can be yourself." He was bringing up my perfectionism: in my perception he did so because he refused to admit he couldn't help me, so by bringing up something else he still was able to profit about my suffering. Looking back to it now I can understand why he responded like that. Still I think it's disrespectful, because I feel treated in such a way like a disobedient dog that has to learn to obey. I have had a lot of therapists and they regularly responded similarly. What I find striking is that my perfectionism and worrying is one of the first things they notice, but it doesn't occur to them that I may have OCD. I have now signed up for another treatment and at the intake I indicated that I suspect OCD in myself and am open to following exposure therapy, but so far they just don't seem to take it seriously. Over the years, my fears have become less strong. By that I mean that it no longer leads to panic attacks and street fear. The more confident I feel, the more comfortable I feel with my masculinity. But when I feel less good about myself, I get doubts again and especially shame and guilt. It makes me hesitate going to the gym (in the past the gym was too much confrontational) and I cannot at myself in the mirror. I am quite sure my so-called borderline personality disorder at least partly refers to complex PTSD. Actually I don't care anymore which name is assigned to my problems. I just want to be helped. I understand bringing up fears like "Am I transgender or not?" doesn't help me. However it doesn't help me either if they refuse to respond to me. Then I feel like it's some kind of test to observe if I am able to figure it out on my own, and if not then I cannot get better.
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So my whole life I’ve been heterosexual. I have got hocd so I worry I’m a lesbian when I have no reason to worry about it because im straight ( not that my ocd likes to think that tho lol! ). But there’s this thought I have, How do I know I’m 100% straight if I haven’t tried sleeping with a girl? Bear in mind I’ve NEVER WANTED TO and DONT want too. Hence why it is an INTRUSIVE thought. But the thought is so uncomfortable- I can’t seem to shift it. But i do see that THIS IS OCD & wanting to know for certain. Thats the definition of OCD. I do know that but it’s tough with the stupid doubts!!! Do you guys just live with the unknown / uncertainty. I’m so happy and love my boyfriend and only want to be with him etc. Let me say again, I DONT want to sleep with a girl nor have I ever fantasized about it. But why does ocd want 100% certainty.. I just wanna not have that weird niggling thought.
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I need tips on how to really accept the uncertainty the ocd causes, even if it feels so bad like I might get in trouble for something , do I wanna be okay with that?
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