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- deputydean
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- 5y ago
I think many of us relate to this. No matter the ‘theme’ OCD tends to pick on one or a few different ‘missteps’ — typically from childhood or adolescence — and preys on them as proof or evidence towards proving a fear/theme to be true/valid/something worth worrying about. One of OCD’s finest tricks. ? There is no action plan here, as to come up with a way to combat these thoughts and fears is just another way of validating them and giving them credence. Perhaps instead you can try something like: I have a vague memory of XYZ happening when I was young. It may or may not mean that XYZ is true about me. If I ever find out that XYZ is true, I will deal with that then, but for now I’ll continue on with what matters to me now.’ Bring yourself back to the present moment and let yourself off the hook from trying to figure anything out. Remember that the compulsion here is likely mental rumination. The goal is no compulsions, so find a way to catch yourself ruminating, collect yourself and bring yourself back to the present and move on with your day. The less you engage with these thoughts, the more you send the signal to your mind that they’re not worth thinking about. ?
Thank you for your response! That's what I try to do. I tell myself "Whatever! It could have happened, but That's not me anymore" but perhaps this is the wrong approach. I'll try doing what you suggested. I do ruminate a lot and I want to stop it. It's hard when you get consumed in your own thoughts and can't escape.
Actually, I think what you say is pretty spot on! It’s kind of just like a ‘so what! whatever!’ which is the right idea! As long as it’s not followed up by dissecting the thoughts and more rumination. I think the idea is to just to let the thought be, and move on with your day. And trust me, I SO so get what you’re going through. And I know first hand that it’s easier said than done. But that’s OK - these are skills we can work on on an ongoing basis - practice makes perfect!
ocd wants to trick you. your brain knows exactly what you fear and what little things feed into it. this is why it’s so convincing, because it is totally based on your thoughts and anxieties. but that’s also why we can’t trust it haha. that memory sticks out to you because you think it reinforces what you are afraid of, not because it is true.
You mean, you were thinking of experiences with girls as a way to ‘neutralize’ or ‘prove silly’ the fears surrounding the other experiences? If so - yes, I believe that would be a compulsion - as to do that would enforce that you have any reason to be concerned about the other experiences, when they are likely just blown out of proportion by OCD. (Sorry if I’m getting the confused! lol)
The bottom line is that there isn’t a single living person on this planet who can say they’ve lived without doing anything they regret/feel ashamed of/confused about/or wish they could take back. That’s just not reality, as we are constantly living and growing, by way of our experiences, and also our ‘mistakes’. OCD sufferers dwell on these things and pick them apart - therein lies the illness. We have to do our best to brush these things off and carry on without thought or investigation, just like people without OCD do. It’s extremely hard when we all seem to be naturally wired this way. ? But other people get through it and so can we! ?
@atkyff thanks! I'm trying really hard to get better and not give these thoughts any meaning, but it feels like OCD has a brain of it's own and it changes constantly so that it keeps scaring you. I really hope we all feel better in the near future. @thistle That makes a lot of sense. And that's why we can't stop it! Unfortunately... ? I try to not think of this stuff, but something is extremely hard. For example, I was told that even thinking of the experiences I had with girls was a compulsion which would eventually make the OCD worse. But then again you crave that feeling of being ok and sure of yourself. Lord help us.
Yeah, I'd be thinking of these positive experiences I had with girls when I'd start to feel like OCD was creeping it's way into my thoughts again. This was either an attempt to make myself feel better or simply take my mind off of this crap and remind myself that I am who I know I am. But it's nice to think of the good moments, like the first time I did something with a girl. We kissed and touched. Nothing more. I remember the rush and satisfaction I felt and the need to repeat it. Or I'll remind myself of the first time I fell in love. These positive memories makes me smile bc *that* Is who I am and I know it I'm 100% sure these thoughts are blown out of proportion, bc I "remember" things that are just flat out weird to have ever happened. After all, I'll be taking about things with my family and they tell me when certain things happened and I can't even remember what they are talking about. Similarly, I'll mention something that I think happened and then everyone will tell me that that never happened. I never took anything to the physical level, thank God! I was only curious about the idea and that only bc I was bullied and received rape threats from other boys in my school. I know, brutal... I've heard other's stories on here and mine doesn't seem bad compared to theirs.
I’m so sorry to hear you were bullied. ? Stuff like that, especially when we’re young and ill equipped to deal with strong/tough emotions, can be super overwhelming, and it’s no wonder your mind generated some strange and unnerving thoughts at the time. But thoughts are thoughts, and nothing more. The main thing is to realize that rumination is a futile effort to resolve stuff that needn’t be resolved in the first place. ?
Unfortunately yes, and sadly I'm not the only kid who has gone or who will go through this. It's really traumatizing. I remember Id come back home crying a lot of the time. My siblings said the same thing. That basically this wasn't me and the curiosity was forced by my then situation. It all ended in tears bc that's not who I felt I was and was directly against what I knew I wanted. This theme has plagued me for way too long and it always finds reasons to make me doubt. I suppose I should just accept all the fearful and intrusive thoughts and follow the directions I want in life.
Hey guys. Trigger warning Soooo I had sexual orientation ocd where I was worried I was truly a lesbian. Now that obsession has stopped bothering me and I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m bisexual! Totally okay with that except now my ocd is telling me that the only reason why I think I’m bi is because this obsession has convinced me I’m bi! Woohoo what fucking hell! Yeah, and now I’m suffering from pocd. And since my sexual orientation ocd kinda sorta had some truth to it, I’m terrified all my other obsessions do too! I don’t want reassurance. I just want to know if anyone has any similar experiences to this and how you dealt with it. The anxiety is making me lose sleep and is burying me in my depression.
HOCD, ROCD and TOCD . . . So my OCD recently all began with ROCD, I felt guilty all the time with my boyfriend, I wanted to stay with him so bad and I love him so much but my anxiety kept telling me to leave and that something wasn't right, that I'm going to be alone forever. Then my HOCD came up, "something doesn't seem right, what if you're actually gay?" and I struggled with this for about 2-3 months. After accepting that even if I am gay, I'm staying with my boyfriend.. The theme of being a transgender came up. That was the absolute worst of them all. It was at a time my anxiety was at its Peak so I was feeling disassociated and my mind just tried to explain that feeling as "you're in the wrong body". I was thoroughly convinced I was a man in a girls body for a solid 3 weeks, I woke up and that was the first thing on my mind "your a man and now youre going to lose your boyfriend, your life and everything that makes you, you." I didn't want to be a man, but my mind was saying "too bad, you are". I eventually went to therapy for this feeling, (they didn't diagnose me with OCD so they weren't treating me as an OCD patient) the thoughts eventually went away but now I'm back on my HOCD. Ive now thorougly convinced myself that I'm gay and will be with a woman for the rest of my life. I don't want to be and this thought scares me. I want to be with my boyfriend, not a woman. But my mind is saying "too bad, just accept that your a lesbian, you're in denial, just come out" but I don't want to be a lesbian ? can anyone relate to the feeling of convincing yourself to the point where you believe it?
Hello everyone, I don’t know if any of you follow Florence given on Instagram but she is a feminist illustrator and author and she has recently shed some light on a topic which I feel has greatly influenced my HOCD and I hope by sharing this, this makes someone feel less alone. She asked her followers to write in to her about their earliest memories of pleasure - and thousands of predominantly women wrote in saying that at sleepovers when they were young they use to kiss their friends and “hump” one another or watch babystation or what not - the women reported feeling so ashamed of it and could not believe how many people had also done it! I myself am included in the thousands of young girls that did this before they even knew what sex or sexuality even was! She highlighted that these responses were not just from gay or bisexual women but a large majority of the women were heterosexual and they reported being very ashamed of these memories (myself included) however didn’t really bother them. This highlighted to me that I am not alone and loads of kids did this because we were kids and we “practicing” and didn’t really understand?. Unfortunately I suffer with anxiety on a very high scale and I found that my OCD presents itself when my anxiety is very high and my OCD is often centred around this! For so long I felt so alone in this experience and thought it must mean I’m gay despite not romanticising about women at all and online finding men attractive when I reached a sexually mature age - but it DOESN’T MAKE ME ANYTHING! Today I say no to OCD. I’m sure some of you have had an experience with someone of the same sex whether that be when you were a child or adult but it doesn’t define our sexuality. Sex contact, sexual attraction and sexuality are very different things. I’m proud to say yeah I find girls attractive but that doesn’t make me gay - Today I say fuck you to my HOCD.
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