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I think it's important to remember that gay people can experience this subtype of OCD as well. That's why many people now call it Sexual Orientation OCD. A gay person with this subtype of OCD will question if they were mistaken and really attracted to people of the opposite sex. HOCD doesn't have to do with internalized homophobia because it doesn't have anything to do with a person's real orientation. It is part of a disorder and not part of actual attraction. That's why when reading something on Google about attraction and how one determines it can't apply to OCD because they're not the same.
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This is the real comment here ^
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I find that doing research on the internet makes things worst because there are so many opinions out there. What I find helpful is to simply remind myself that I want a emotional connection with the opposite sex. Sex is just sex.
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Thank you for saying this, i really needed it. It made me feel a lot better, which is rare nowadays:)
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But internalized homophobia is made up. It’s a way to explain why “late bloomers” are late. You have to know that a lot of people hear hocd and they assume it’s stupid, a lot of gay people think we’re being homophobic and their main argument is that it’s internalized homophobia. HOCD is a subtype of OCD but it is OCD and is recognized by OCD experts as OCD, internalized homophobia is a made up thing, and they explain it like it’s some kind of sickness or disease with symptoms along the lines of just about every single thing in the world. Best you think of it that way or you’ll end up struggling more, a lot of gay people don’t wanna see us succeed but you can’t blame them, if someone told me about this a year ago I would’ve called them crazy.
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Good point!
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Exactly its kinda of bias when they say that its internalized homophobia it is made up.
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Internalized homophobia is real but its not like OCD. Its more trying to tone down your gayness because people will judge you or worrying that you are bad because of it. Just because it triggers you doesn't mean its not real but just because its real doesn't mean you are experiencing it.
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@207 Internalized homophobia is very real and it’s something lots of people deal with, regardless of sexual orientation. Even a straight person could have it
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@PinkLotus Straight people can have internalized homophobia?
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@PinkLotus Its just homophobia if you are straight.
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@207 Now im scared that’s me oh lordy🙃
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@hate_ocd.123 Use it as an exposure. Don't do your compulsions and let the anxiety flow away.
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@207 I think that it can totally be used as a term in a more general sense. Just like how some people say they aren’t racist but they feel uneasy around people that look different. Internalized homophobia would make total sense if it wasn’t used to say everyone with it is gay. There are some people that feel uncomfortable around gay people without any outside or physical reasons besides them being gay. Still they don’t say their homophobic because to be fair they aren’t holding any hatred towards them but still. That’s why internalized homophobia for what it’s talked about as doesn’t make sense to me it sounds like manipulation on the same level as conversion therapy take that as you will.
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@NihonWarrior516 The definition of internalized homophobia is: The gay person's direction of negative social attitudes towards the self. (Meyer & Dean, 1998, p.161)
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@207 Well I didn’t say any definition. I’m just commenting with the lack of grey areas that cause confusion among people with OCD in general. How are people supposed to accept uncertainty with the lack of shades of grey? If anything there is a lack of definition that makes sense, with illnesses there are some that share the exact same symptoms but how do they identify them? There is a ground work, at what rate do they symptoms occur, is it caused by a bacteria or is it a virus, or is it a mutation? With mental health it’s similar but it’s more set in stone. It can be difficult to diagnose someone because it truly depends on what they share. It’s common for sociopaths and psychopaths to fly under the radar because they never tell the whole truth. Even then you can diagnose mental illnesses through physical tells, you can tell if someone is a compulsive liar through tells (only if they make it obvious). But every single case of a certain mental illness shares damn near identical symptoms, mannerisms, and effects. Internalized homophobia may be a real thing but it’s mislead, just like OCD is. People thought OCD was something that made people clean a lot so people would say they had OCD for just that reason. In contrast internalized homophobia is something that carries nothing but a clear answer to why you were feeling a certain way, it’s an explanation not a mental illness. But people throw the word out there to everyone, making a list of symptoms that change accordingly and can also be basically everything someone with SO OCD experiences and stuff that your average person may experience. It’s a broad term and that means it loses credibility in the long run since its not being told like it’s something you have it’s being told as an answer to a problem. I’m just saying there are a lot of people who maliciously throw around that term, to the point that it loses credibility and becomes somewhat of a form of manipulation.
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@NihonWarrior516 I don't understand a word of this, but you do you.
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Its not internalized homophonia. It doesnt allign with who you are theres a difference. Homophobia- fear of gay people...... SOOCD or HOCD fear of BEING gay. Theres a clear difference. Idk people think its homophobic, it's not. Its doubting your identity and who you are as person. It's has nothing to do with gay people at all.
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I’ve been struggling with HOCD for years, and it started with an intrusive thought about being gay when I was younger. It came up at age 12 and ever since, I’ve been trapped in a cycle of doubt and anxiety. I obsess over whether or not I’m secretly gay, even though I don’t feel that way at all. What makes it worse is the fear that I might have internalized homophobia, and that’s why I’m having these obsessive thoughts. I worry that my anxiety is a sign that I’m repressing something or rejecting part of myself. It feels like my mind keeps repeating the same question—am I gay?—and no matter how much reassurance I get, the fear doesn’t go away. I used to pray for my family members, fearing that if I didn’t, something bad would happen to them, and now it feels like I have to control these thoughts, or something will go wrong. For a while, it was quieter, but a week ago, the thoughts spiraled up again, and now the anxiety feels overwhelming again. It’s exhausting, and I don’t know how to break free from this constant loop of doubt. Has anyone dealt with the fear of internalized homophobia alongside HOCD? How do you manage the anxiety that comes with it?
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i have had intense thoughts and fears about being gay today and i have been sick to my stomach. it just stopped and now im scared im accepting it and im not freaking out. i feel like im okay with it. I AM NOT OKAY WITH BEING GAY.
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So I’m afraid that I have HOCD, but at the same time that I might also be homosexual. Is that possible? I have all the typical compulsions… checking for attraction, analyzing thoughts, analyzing the past, analyzing emotions, searching the internet. Is it really HOCD? When I see anything related to LGBT, I get strongly triggered. Sometimes I observe how my body reacts around people, but most often I check with ChatGPT to calm myself down, although it doesn’t last long—it depends. I also compare myself to other straight women who look like lesbians, or to lesbians who look like they’re straight. I had a phase where I was analyzing my body… whether I have too much hair, whether I have an Adam’s apple, whether I act like a lesbian without realizing it. I also have the typical intrusive thoughts like “did something from the past actually mean something, or is it a sign?” “am I just lying to myself?” “what if I’m in denial?” “what if I’ve ignored signs my whole life and lied to myself?” “what if I’ll never be able to fall in love with a guy?” “what if there are too many signs and proofs and it’s true?” “what if it’s not HOCD at all?” And much more. But now I’m scared that it’s both—that I have HOCD and that I’m homosexual. I’ve cried multiple times because of this and it’s been going on for 7 months. Some days are better, some are worse. And there’s so much ‘evidence’ that I won’t even list now—over these seven months I’ve found so many things from my past and dreams that I feel like there has to be something to it. I’ve also had around four panic attacks because of this. And I truly believe I have HOCD and that I’m also homosexual, which is killing me and it feels horrible. I just want to be sure that im straight and be at peace. When im doubting and thinking that im a lesbian i feel like im not at peace and i hate it. But u feel like i just need to accept it but i don’t want to and i just want to have a boyfriend, kids but im scared that it’s not possible for me because im lesbian and i actually just think that i want a boyfriend but in reality i don’t. Ughhhh help me.
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