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I think it's important to remember that gay people can experience this subtype of OCD as well. That's why many people now call it Sexual Orientation OCD. A gay person with this subtype of OCD will question if they were mistaken and really attracted to people of the opposite sex. HOCD doesn't have to do with internalized homophobia because it doesn't have anything to do with a person's real orientation. It is part of a disorder and not part of actual attraction. That's why when reading something on Google about attraction and how one determines it can't apply to OCD because they're not the same.
This is the real comment here ^
I find that doing research on the internet makes things worst because there are so many opinions out there. What I find helpful is to simply remind myself that I want a emotional connection with the opposite sex. Sex is just sex.
Thank you for saying this, i really needed it. It made me feel a lot better, which is rare nowadays:)
But internalized homophobia is made up. It’s a way to explain why “late bloomers” are late. You have to know that a lot of people hear hocd and they assume it’s stupid, a lot of gay people think we’re being homophobic and their main argument is that it’s internalized homophobia. HOCD is a subtype of OCD but it is OCD and is recognized by OCD experts as OCD, internalized homophobia is a made up thing, and they explain it like it’s some kind of sickness or disease with symptoms along the lines of just about every single thing in the world. Best you think of it that way or you’ll end up struggling more, a lot of gay people don’t wanna see us succeed but you can’t blame them, if someone told me about this a year ago I would’ve called them crazy.
Good point!
Exactly its kinda of bias when they say that its internalized homophobia it is made up.
Internalized homophobia is real but its not like OCD. Its more trying to tone down your gayness because people will judge you or worrying that you are bad because of it. Just because it triggers you doesn't mean its not real but just because its real doesn't mean you are experiencing it.
@207 Internalized homophobia is very real and it’s something lots of people deal with, regardless of sexual orientation. Even a straight person could have it
@PinkLotus Straight people can have internalized homophobia?
@PinkLotus Its just homophobia if you are straight.
@207 Now im scared that’s me oh lordy🙃
@hate_ocd.123 Use it as an exposure. Don't do your compulsions and let the anxiety flow away.
@207 I think that it can totally be used as a term in a more general sense. Just like how some people say they aren’t racist but they feel uneasy around people that look different. Internalized homophobia would make total sense if it wasn’t used to say everyone with it is gay. There are some people that feel uncomfortable around gay people without any outside or physical reasons besides them being gay. Still they don’t say their homophobic because to be fair they aren’t holding any hatred towards them but still. That’s why internalized homophobia for what it’s talked about as doesn’t make sense to me it sounds like manipulation on the same level as conversion therapy take that as you will.
@NihonWarrior516 The definition of internalized homophobia is: The gay person's direction of negative social attitudes towards the self. (Meyer & Dean, 1998, p.161)
@207 Well I didn’t say any definition. I’m just commenting with the lack of grey areas that cause confusion among people with OCD in general. How are people supposed to accept uncertainty with the lack of shades of grey? If anything there is a lack of definition that makes sense, with illnesses there are some that share the exact same symptoms but how do they identify them? There is a ground work, at what rate do they symptoms occur, is it caused by a bacteria or is it a virus, or is it a mutation? With mental health it’s similar but it’s more set in stone. It can be difficult to diagnose someone because it truly depends on what they share. It’s common for sociopaths and psychopaths to fly under the radar because they never tell the whole truth. Even then you can diagnose mental illnesses through physical tells, you can tell if someone is a compulsive liar through tells (only if they make it obvious). But every single case of a certain mental illness shares damn near identical symptoms, mannerisms, and effects. Internalized homophobia may be a real thing but it’s mislead, just like OCD is. People thought OCD was something that made people clean a lot so people would say they had OCD for just that reason. In contrast internalized homophobia is something that carries nothing but a clear answer to why you were feeling a certain way, it’s an explanation not a mental illness. But people throw the word out there to everyone, making a list of symptoms that change accordingly and can also be basically everything someone with SO OCD experiences and stuff that your average person may experience. It’s a broad term and that means it loses credibility in the long run since its not being told like it’s something you have it’s being told as an answer to a problem. I’m just saying there are a lot of people who maliciously throw around that term, to the point that it loses credibility and becomes somewhat of a form of manipulation.
@NihonWarrior516 I don't understand a word of this, but you do you.
Its not internalized homophonia. It doesnt allign with who you are theres a difference. Homophobia- fear of gay people...... SOOCD or HOCD fear of BEING gay. Theres a clear difference. Idk people think its homophobic, it's not. Its doubting your identity and who you are as person. It's has nothing to do with gay people at all.
I’ve never heard of HOCD. When I read about it, it says “fear of being homosexual when you are straight or vice versa,” yet it’s still called “homosexual OCD.” I’m a lesbian and I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this concept because honestly the symptoms sound kind of homophobic? Constantly FEARING you might be gay? I’m trying to think of it from other people’s perspective and trying not to be insensitive, it’s just that when I was questioning my sexuality it’s because I was actually gay, and the symptoms sound a lot like someone just discovering their sexuality but being struck with fear and hiding it. Thoughts?
This thing gets weirder and weirder I swear. I literally woke up, right. And my mind immediately went “What if you don’t have OCD? You’d just be really bi” and I went along pretending that I didn’t know about OCD and I was just experiencing denial. Then I scrolled on twitter and went on my friend’s page and then my mind went “why don’t you like her? There’s nothing wrong with her. I thought you were supposed to have a crush on her” Here’s the worst part in this: I’m now convinced that HOCD is a huge lie that I made up and it’s homophobic for me to suffer from this theme of OCD and label my “attractions” to the same sex as “bouts of anxiety.” Therefore, I’m not only a bad person, but a liar.
i think i might be developing sexual orientation ocd because i identify as a lesbian but when i was a kid i only ever crushed on guys. im starting to wonder if i just had hocd the entire time and believed the thoughts so hard that i tricked myself into thinking im gay. but i really don't wanna be straight ?
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