How do you guys stop the rumination or get past the feeling of wanting to keep obsessing or thinking about the obsession? I feel like this is what is keeping my in the loop rn.
for me, although it's different for everyone, i had to realize my efforts to stop ruminating were really just making it harder to not ruminate. i was still trying to solve the "problem" of my rumination, which is how it started. trying to solve something. really, not ruminating is inaction. it's stepping off a mental treadmill. it should feel like exerting no effort, not even bracing yourself for the thoughts that might pop into your head. does that feel scary? then it'll probably work for you
Learn mindfulness, be aware of your mental decisions and where to put your focus. I highly recommen "The mindfulness workbook for OCD"/ Jon Hershfield, Corboy
Different for everyone I agree with @Estrid mindfullness can be vary helpful. Here a trick I use, when you start ruminating take a moment to sit with yourself close ur eyes and sink into what ur feeling in that moment. Observe the thoughts, acknowledge them and then tell them " your disturbing but you can stay around as long as you like but I'm not gonna try to figure this out right now" then just go about your day. Repeat this process as many times as you need thought they day but don't repeat the phrase compulsively. Just say it once and if the thoughts keep trying to lure you in just repeat it. Like setting boundaries with a four year old lol
To me reading about Metacognitive therapy helped a lot... they say we ruminate, because we have inner believes that "rumination will solve my problem", " if i do not worry about it, i am in danger" and simmilar... MCT therapy teaches you that there are other ways to think about your thoughts (metacognition - cognition is thought, thinking about thought is metacognition)... so check it out...generally they say your mind will heal when you stop using maladaptive thinking patterns (as rumination, in ocd compulsions etc), but first ypu must know these are maladaptive...you do them because inside uou believe these are helpfull - as compulsion, rumination...so first adress your believes about thoughts, emotions, urges, behaviour and then see bad strategies you use... and do good ones... in simple way I adressed my rumination that it doing more damage than good, never aolved anything so i decided it is maladaptive and seen that other thinking-behavorial patterns are more optimal, for example refocusing to your values and present moment (i learned it from ACT therapy) ... and thats how i reduced my rumination...everytime it comes I adress not a thoughts itself, but my false belief, that rumination lead to solution...it is false belief, so MCT do not bother with content of obsessive thoughts, it adress how you relate to them...if you wanna solve or accept...there is a difference...acceptance is a key and comittment to live your life despite fear...not be in false world of your mind, but here and now in real world...ocd lives only in mind...without attention ir is dead...lot of hope for you
Agree! MCT has helped me too.
@Estrid can you tell me more about your use of MCT? Do you had therapist online/offline, or learned it only trought books, seminars?
@drak4 No therapist, too expensive...I have read books, Pia Callesen "Live more, think less", articles and you tube videos also. Something that was easy but very helpful was to use "attention training techniques" on you tube. I have tried to implement this in my daily life in adfition to my ERP, ACT and mindfulness tools.
@Estrid great to know, thanks... yes attention traing in my exprience helps OCD a lot
@Estrid What yputube chanel? That book has poor reviews on amazon...but maybe people donr understanded it...it helped you?
@drak4 I know...maybe people don't understand, but life will for sure be easier if you apply the tools in it, not just for people with anxiety disorders. I borrowed it in the library. You can search for Michael Greenberg OCD, Adrian Wells, Attention training MCT. I don't have the links...
@Estrid I read book from Adrian Wells it was great, but very academic
@drak4 Yes, he is. Then you can check Greenberg.
Two things are happening: I get thoughts that just keep looping. They almost feel like song stuck in my head. Also, I’ll imagine something and I feel my stomach drop. Then as the seconds go by I keep getting fragments of the this thought but with different details. For example, it’s kinda like how a “vision” is portrayed. I’ll get a glimpse of the thought and then it’ll rapidly expand into something worse every few seconds. I don’t know if I’m causing this or if it’s just an automatic thing like any other intrusive thought. It feels unavoidable, idk if this is a compulsion or if it’s just another manifestation of an intrusive thought. Apart from that remembering an intrusive thought triggers the full thought again and then it just keeps looping or expanding. I don’t know how to stop any of this. Help?
What's a piece of advice you give when someone has constantly intrusive thoughts and ruminations that won't stop? Interested to see what you tell others.....more on this when I see some replies!!!
My biggest is ruminating, i talk and talk and over share with myself and others Like what are some exposures?
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