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I think it’s hard to “accept” the thoughts because (for me, personally) that makes it feel like you’re accepting being a predator. That’s something that has made me very s**cidal in the past. I understand how you feel, in fact I struggle with this on a daily basis, even today so much so that I will hit myself to distract myself from a disturbing thought. (I don’t recommend that tbh, it’s probably not healthy) When I have a better wrap on my mental health and a thought like that crosses my mind I do not even think about it at all. I treat my mind like an etch a sketch and shake it away as soon as it pops in. When you invest in the thought it feels more real, and more deliberate. When I am not doing as well mental health wise I struggle to not feel upset, and if I do feel upset of course my first instinct is to immediately stop that, I’ll repeat certain words, talk out loud randomly to drown or distract the thought, sometimes hit myself or pinch myself. It’s a horrible thing to experience because it really feels demoralizing but just remember those thoughts ARENT you. If they were you wouldn’t be turned inside out about them, this is a real subcategory of OCD, you aren’t making it up. My best advice as someone who’s been normally functioning with this and also deeply s**cidal about it is if you can help it do that think even a second further about the thought. It enters your mind and you etch a sketch dissolve it right away and promptly do something afterwards that makes you feel like you. Listen to your favourite song, text a friend, make your favourite snack etc. You got this ❤️
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Thank you ? I have a question. What are your thoughts on “uncertainty” for POCD? It quite honestly scares me and makes me feel worst
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@? Do you mean uncertainty of whether or not you will act on thoughts or whether or not the thoughts are a true representation of yourself
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@Harper I think both
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I know it’s awful, I have the worst accusatory voice in my head any time I’m anywhere near a child or look at one and I start questioning why I looked at them. So I try to act like they don’t exist and I feel like that makes it worse, it feels like I’m trying to be in denial. It doesn’t even make any sense. I’ve never harmed a kid, wouldn’t get anything out of it and really I KNOW I’m never going to. It’s the loop of questioning myself and my memories and the stigma which is really causing the trouble in my mind I think. And it’s disgusting because I feel like I have to think about it vividly so I can check that I definitely still don’t like it, or watch documentaries or Hanson vs predator just to try to “check” and make sure, but it just makes the stigma part feel worse which makes it all worse. I’ve had it about other intrusive sexual stuff I shouldn’t have which makes me spiral the same way. Idk if I have much advice to give other than resisting the thinking about it and ‘checking’. I have other OCDs and once I move onto one of them, the sexual ones seem unimportant and unrealistic. So that’s the gauge I try to go by. Remember how you felt in the times when you have felt/known that it’s not true and is kinda cray.
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Wow I seriously needed this. We’ve both gone through very similar through-processes and feelings! Thank you for responding
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This experience sounds very familiar, and also the checking methods similer too
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@seemeinacrown Yeah I think people shy away from talking about their checking methods because it feels so dirty and shameful and makes you question yourself even more like why the hell would I imagine that or want to see or hear about any of that and feeling like you would be judged or misunderstood. Even if you know it’s because you have the need to check, because then a bit of you is still constantly like “is that really why though?”. It’s this horrible loop of torture-shame :(
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Accepting the uncertainty is the only way to get better.
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But what exactly is uncertainty in regards to POCD
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@? what do you mean
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@Ginger77 For POCD, what does uncertainty look like
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@? You will have to deal with the uncertainty of not knowing.
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@? for example I don't know what's going to happen tommarow, but I can't just sit and ruminate in the thoughts of something bad maybe happening.
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@? I'm not exactly sure what u mean here? Can u explain a little more. About your thought process is? Just so we can help a bit better
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@seemeinacrown Does uncertainty for POCD mean uncertainty of actually being a p********? Or uncertainty of something else?
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You have to accept the thoughts. And get used to them.
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What about “uncertainty”
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What else would you be uncertain of? Generally speaking it's about aether or not you are or aren't, but it can manifest in other things to do with that. Man I wish there was a PM, although I get why there isn't, I can tell you wanna say something but don't feel comfortable to in the forum, just remember you are in a safe place here.
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I don’t feel comfortable with the thought of being a p*. I don’t understand uncertainty when it comes to POCD so I need clarification. If it means being uncertain of whether or not I’m a p*, then that’s very disturbing to me. I know I would never do anything like that. I don’t support those acts. I don’t stand with it. I just want the thoughts to stop :(
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@? Its okay my friend i promise. The best thing my therapist told me was to accept these thoughts as a symptom of the ocd. That these intrusive thoughts and unwanted symptoms are because of the ocd, not you my friend
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@? I do think there needs to be a more clarified explanation of “accpeting uncertaintly” because it doesnt mean you have to accept that you may or may not be that person. It means you accept that ocd is a bully and that it will make you feel uncertain, I promise it wont always be like this my friend. You’re doing great
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@ahhhhhhmybrain Thank you for responding ? I truly appreciate your input. This helped me understand more
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Hi NOCD community, I was hoping to get some advice from fellow sufferers. In December we welcomed the first baby into the family, my beautiful niece. Since then, my POCD has been awful, which I know is probably very normal. Last week, in the middle of a very high stress day in my family, I was changing my niece and as usually happens, I got intrusive thoughts about awful things people do to babies when changing them. The thoughts were so harrowing to have as I was also changing her at the exact same time, and I felt my hands just quickly want to finish patting her dry before putting her nappy on, and for some reason, my heart dropped with that hand movement, because I was afraid that I had acted out the awful thoughts in my head, in a moment of mania because my morals, values and heart do not align with abuse of any kind, especially to children. My niece is my everything, and I know I would never want harm to come to her in any way, shape or form. I love her endlessly. I am having therapy, but have only had a couple of sessions. But, I cannot shake the 'what if'. I am tortured over trying to remember what it was I did that made my heart drop, but I can't, and its getting fuzzier and fuzzier the more I try to remember. Could anyone offer any advice on this please? Thank you.
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I’ve heard it’s not good to seek reassurance or give it because it lowers your tolerance to uncertainty. But how do I avoid seeking reassurance when my thoughts and doubts are so bad, I genuinely just don’t know anymore if I’m a bad person or if it’s just OCD? I know I’m supposed to sit with the uncertainty, but how can I do that when the uncertainty has me unable to trust my own brain? Especially when the OCD is real event and POCD? How can I not seek reassurance when I feel so alone and so abnormal and just don’t wanna feel that way anymore? In turn, I see so many people on here struggling so bad and my heart breaks for them. How can I give advice to towers without giving them reassurance and hurting them in the long run?
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17f So basically I think you know this whole accept and sit with the uncertainty thing. It applies to pocd as well. Because you can ruminate, test yourself, seek reassurance as much as you want but it will never be enough for you brain to be sure you are not a P. So you need to sit with "Maybe I am a P maybe not" and just don't do anything about it. So sometimes I can do that. But here comes moral ocd. If I accept the chanse of me being a pedophile, isn't it morally wrong for me to be around children? Look at children? Watch movies with children in it? Cause now I can't even look at children even if it was an accident without freaking out and thinking that I'm a monster. Sometimes it feels morally wrong to leave the house because there is a chanse I can meet a child on the street I genuinely don't know what to do. It feels paralyzing at this point. Seems like I can't do anything. Like I even need to cover children on the screen with my hand when I watch a movie. It's exhausting.
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