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I know that it feels like The Problem is your thoughts, the memory, the ethics of the situation, etc. But right now, in this moment, the problem is the anxiety you’re having. Do whatever it is you need to do to ease the anxiety, that you KNOW works, and that won’t cause adverse effects. Because you have OCD, debating the question probably isn’t what will help. If you don’t know what will help, reach out to a professional for ideas. Strong emotions cloud judgment and interfere with memory. Once you’re out of the grip of intense anxiety, you’ll be able to consider the situation more clearly. Believe me, it’ll keep. Right now, you need to calm your brain down. Focus on that for the moment 💜
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Reassurance makes it worse love. Maybe you did do somthing sketchy. But... Let's say I had tons of sexual thoughts about the guys and girls in my class a few years ago. Am I a terrible person who deserves to die? I would venture to say no... Eo2uld you disagree?
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No, of course you don't deserve to die... It's just... Well, I imagined myself with a teen (maybe, I don't know if this is a false memory). I was a teen in the fantasy but I can't shake the feeling I did something awful. What you hypothetically did was nothing wrong.
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@myocdstory So... what I may have done doesnt change my worth as a human being? Ok. But what YOU may have done changes your worth as a human being? Why is that?
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@Daisy102 What I did was unethical in a higher level... That's why I deserve to be punished.
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@myocdstory Ok... So you think you deserve to be punished. Lets say for sake of argument i am pretty convinced I sexually abused a toddler I babysat. Now I too would go to jail if that were true. But... Why? What is the purpose of going to jail? Is it truly to dish out justice, or merely to keep society safe? Is the purspose of punishment to condemn someone and say they are worthless and bad, or is it to teach and shape behavior? Thoughts?
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@Daisy102 I get what you are going with this. Of course, jail - the concept, I mean - should be both to keep the society safe but also try to shape the criminal. I know that some of them are very bad people... But I believe in treating everyone with respect and human dignity, even if they killed 100 people. I know this sounds awful but, I don't know... Something inside me wants NOT to mistreat them. Instead, try to change them or the very least, treat everyone with respect. I'm so sorry... I'm rambling. I know what goal you intend to reach but... I feel like I deserve to be punished? Like, emotionally and physically hurt. That's what I do to myself. I would hit myself and cut myself and treat me like trash, that's what I do. I'm so sorry for not being able to change... I get your point. I do. And you have a lot of logic in your argument, but human nature can't always succumb to logic. My self hatred has no reason... I just hate myself. It's probably a neurochemical imbalance.
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@myocdstory Okay. That's valid. And i agree on the criminal thing by the way. So... Its sounds like you think you can't change. Is that correct? Why cant you change? I'm not arguing with you, but I want to better understand what you're thinking. If you cant change, why not? Can anyone change? Do you believe in free will?
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@Daisy102 I do believe people can change but for some reason I'm not able to change from this "self-hatred" mindset. There's a block that doesn't allow me to love myself. I don't know what it is or how to destroy it. It's probably a religious thing, even though I'm not religious at all.
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@myocdstory Honey, are you on any medication? Because I recognize myself in you. The incessant feeling that I “should” be punished. The existential crisis. The double standard that other people can change and be forgiven or whatever else, but I can’t, or shouldn’t, or don’t deserve to. I was only able to start breaking out of this mental trap with medication. When you’re in this deep, IMO, the problem has concetrated itself in your anatomy, and you need to go in and change the physical structures and functions of your brain before you can hope to get a handle on your thoughts.
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Hello dear 😊 I won't reassure you that you did nothing bad because it wouldn't help you long term. You have to accept the fact that there is a possibility that you indeed did something "wrong" (this possibility is inherent in everything we do). But that is the point, we never get to do something 100% right. You can't change it anymore. And I know you want to, but atm you certainly can't forget it. So what you can do is accept that you think about it, the fact that you can't change and be present. Sending lots of love and strength your way!
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Again, I feel that arguing about whether or not you did something wrong or not, deserve to go to jail, the concept of jail etc is not helping. Your OCD will always come up with something new that makes you think"alright, but what if I'm different, what if this doesn't apply to me... " You can't think your way out of your illness. It is not possible, there is no intellectual solution you'll find if you just think harder about it. I know it feels extremely irresponsible, but to get better (and I know you don't feel like you deserve to) and most importantly to see clearer again, you have to get away from your thoughts. You have to distance yourself from them. This does not mean pushing them away but rather watching them at first, while you do what you value.
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I'm sorry, please help me understand. What can we DO to distance ourselves from our thoughts? Like what are practical things we can do?
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@Daisy102 S-, forgive me... I just... There's nothing I can do. I hate myself so much. There's nothing that will change my mind. I just had a talk with my ex and I'm not well... I finally understood what went wrong but it's nothing I can change and it hurts so much that I never felt worthy of her because that was what destroyed the relationship... I know she deserves better but I am still so hurt because I'll never be able to change that mindset... And I'm so hurt that I'll never be with her again... But I know she deserves better... And I'm like this... But if I can't be happy why am I still here?
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@myocdstory If I cant be happy, why am I still here? Okay... Lets talk about that. What are some potential reasons you are here? Think about it. Lets say I was feeling suicidal. I would feel like I cant be happy. So... What would be my purpose? Should I just kill myself? Can a sad person still do good in the world? Is it possible that people love you and are helped by you and you don't realize? (Hint: why do I keep telling you I love you if I don't?)
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@myocdstory Also... If you want to text on instagram I made a new account for this forum... DaisyDay102
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@Daisy102 I sent you a. MEssage through there!
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Meditate. Try to learn how to see the thoughts flow by, like a river, and you are just looking at them, not swimming in the river
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Thank you Somi💛 that's helpful☺
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I’m a 23 y/o female who has recently entered a phase of obsessive thoughts of mistakes I’ve made, ranging from events that happened over a decade ago when and I was a kid up to things that happened recently. I feel so much debilitating guilt I can’t do anything or function. I especially feel bad for this one instance. I have always had extremely low self esteem, and I often seek attention and validation especially from men. I like being liked. I find myself trying to act or look cute, or even act somewhat like a pick-me, so that I feel liked. I feel like I may even do this with girls too, but especially guys. I just really like attention, and I’ve been in a stagnant 6 year relationship where I don’t really feel desirable, and I’m very lonely. A few months ago I started playing a game where I met a large group of people and we would all play together everyday. One of the people in particular was a 15/16 year old guy who flirted with me a lot, and I kept my distance because he was so young, and I felt kinda weird talking to someone younger than me, but we would still talk sometimes because we were apart of the same discord group, and I have a problem being stern and confrontational so I didn’t want to be mean or make things awkward in the friend group. Although it made me uncomfortable that he was so young and that I’m nearly a whole decade older than him, and I did make it clear that I was dating someone and I was way too old for him and I would tell him to stop, I wasn’t very stern and I was very lighthearted about it and I even found myself liking the attention I got from him. I was flattered. I liked that he liked me so much even though I knew he was a teenager and I feel like I was maybe even seeking attention from him like I did with the other guys in the group. And when I say seeking attention, I mean that I was acting cute so that I was liked and got attention. Is that considered flirting? Was I flirting with him? Does this make me disgusting? That I liked the attention I got even though he was teenager? That I acted cute around him as well as all the other guys so that he would like me? I feel disgusted with myself. Does this make me a predator? Doesn’t this make me disgusting that I liked attention I got from a teenager? To be fair, I like the attention I get from any guy. I just like feeling liked. But I feel like it makes me disgusting that even though I knew he was a teenager I still liked and was flattered by the attention and was possibly even seeking it out from him. My head is all messed up. I really feel like I’m having an identity crisis. I feel disgusted with myself to the point that I’m nauseous. I’m so ashamed. I’ve been crying nonstop for days on end and I feel truly hopeless. I don’t know how I’m supposed to live my life with this shame and that I’m convinced that makes me a predator or a sick person. I don’t know if I’m overthinking things or not. I just really need some relief because I feel like I’m losing my mind, but I want someone to be honest with me about my actions.
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help. it all happened too very fast. i was having a random b*ner, and i wanted to stop it by forcing an er*ction so it would go down afterwards, i had also seen a yt short of cyberpunk 2077 phantom liberty, in which a beautiful redheaded character appears, and i had random thought abt how maybe she wouldn't be truly that pretty and it was just make up. i imagined a scenario in which i had an okay looking girlfriend but that would look very hot with make up on, and i thought that was the perfect scenario to release the b*ner by momentarily forcing an erection and as i did that i remembered a highschool crush i had of a girl older than me that i found very beautiful and i distinctly remember being excited to see her with make up on, and this memory associated immediately. it went like this -> imagine girlfriend that is beautiful with make up on as i prepare to have an er*ction -> this reminds me just like that time in highschool -> the positive memory of my crush appears as i force an er*ction to happen at the same time without thinking too much (this all happens in a span of a millisec) i don't know how but my brain didn't register that memory as a threat, i had forgotten the context, it didn't even cross my mind that it happened years ago in highschool, i just had this memory. now im worried that i committed a horrible disgusting act. the erection wasn't caused by the memory of the crush, i planned it to happen with a safe image and that image of the crush appeared as i remembered and it didn't register it as a threat and this just happened; because i don't believe i was aroused by the memory, i was just remember that she was pretty. i don't know if it was just coincidence. it wasn't intentional, but now im disgusted at myself. there are 3 possibilities: 1. i already had made the conscious decision to force an erection from the scenario before and as the memory appeared, as it all happened in a millisecond, i didn't have enough time to process it with its due context and i didnt perceive that memory as triggering or something inappropriate and for my brain it was okay to be in the background while the er*ction happened. 2. it happened in one second, the conscious decision was already made from the scenario before so the er*ction randomly happened during the remembrance 3. worst case: in the moment of the er*ction as i remembered the crush i put myself in those shoes of the young me and as the memory happened very fast i forgot the context and the distance of the period frame in which had happened (long ago) and since i remembered her being older than me i still perceived in that fragment of the memory that way, and since i was in the memory itself i found her attractive normally, indistinguishably and separated from the present time, and for that split second i perceived her normally as if i was attracted to a girl in my present time, it literally felt a "normal" perception of a girl i liked and i didn't realise it wasn't the case; and my mind since it lacked the necessary context it allowed it to be non dangerous and not wrong to force an erection, and i realised it was a mistake only after it happened hence the panic... so it all happened before processing the context of the time in which had happen that would result as inappropriate. im afraid that the 3. is what happened and that it is unacceptable.
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help. it all happened too very fast. i was having a random b*ner, and i wanted to stop it by forcing an er*ction so it would go down afterwards, i had also seen a yt short of cyberpunk 2077 phantom liberty, in which a beautiful redheaded character appears, and i had random thought abt how maybe she wouldn't be truly that pretty and it was just make up. i imagined a scenario in which i had an okay looking girlfriend but that would look very hot with make up on, and i thought that was the perfect scenario to release the b*ner by momentarily forcing an erection and as i did that i remembered a highschool crush i had of a girl older than me that i found very beautiful and i distinctly remember being excited to see her with make up on, and this memory associated immediately. it went like this -> imagine girlfriend that is beautiful with make up on as i prepare to have an er*ction -> this reminds me just like that time in highschool -> the positive memory of my crush appears as i force an er*ction to happen at the same time without thinking too much (this all happens in a span of a millisec) i don't know how but my brain didn't register that memory as a threat, i had forgotten the context, it didn't even cross my mind that it happened years ago in highschool, i just had this memory. now im worried that i committed a horrible disgusting act. the erection wasn't caused by the memory of the crush, i planned it to happen with a safe image and that image of the crush appeared as i remembered and it didn't register it as a threat and this just happened; because i don't believe i was aroused by the memory, i was just remember that she was pretty. i don't know if it was just coincidence. it wasn't intentional, but now im disgusted at myself. there are 3 possibilities: 1. i already had made the conscious decision to force an erection from the scenario before and as the memory appeared, as it all happened in a millisecond, i didn't have enough time to process it with its due context and i didnt perceive that memory as triggering or something inappropriate and for my brain it was okay to be in the background while the er*ction happened. 2. it happened in one second, the conscious decision was already made from the scenario before so the er*ction randomly happened during the remembrance 3. worst case: in the moment of the er*ction as i remembered the crush i put myself in those shoes of the young me and as the memory happened very fast i forgot the context and the distance of the period frame in which had happened (long ago) and since i remembered her being older than me i still perceived in that fragment of the memory that way, and since i was in the memory itself i found her attractive normally, indistinguishably and separated from the present time, and for that split second i perceived her normally as if i was attracted to a girl in my present time, it literally felt a "normal" perception of a girl i liked and i didn't realise it wasn't the case; and my mind since it lacked the necessary context it allowed it to be non dangerous and not wrong to force an erection, and i realised it was a mistake only after it happened hence the panic... so it all happened before processing the context of the time in which had happen that would result as inappropriate. im afraid that the 3. is what happened and that it is unacceptable.
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