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- 6y ago
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As someone who is suffering from POCD which shows some similar symptoms to HOCD, I can tell you that the last sentence is quite triggering and far from the truth. I think there are many reasons people are afraid of being homosexual and it doesn’t directly have to do something with homophobia. Maybe someone who’s been in a relationship with someone from the opposite gender for quite a long time suddenly has the fear of being gay and therefor is afraid of not being able to live their relationship like they used to do. Or someone who believes it‘s a sin develops such a fear. Of course homosexuality should be nothing to fear but sometimes the circumstances are the reason they develop the fear. For e.g. having a family and suddenly questioning your sexuality and kinda your identity is a distress for those people. I believe that homosexuality is equally to heterosexuality but I also understand that believing this and thinking about being homosexual yourself even tho you once was convinced you weren’t is a huge difference. It’s quite hard to explain but I think it has less to do with homophobia and more to do with ones self-perception. Still, some cases might be linked to homophobia but definitely not every case. And no, people who are suffering from this are not in denial. They are afraid they might be and that’s a huge difference. But again, it’s quite hard to explain. Nevertheless I understand that HOCD might offend you but believe me most of the people suffering from it don’t want to offend you at all. It’s just not something they are in control of. We still have to remember that it’s an illness, no matter what topic OCD chose to make you suffer from. I just wish everyone the best and hope they’re getting better, because this illness is an asshole.
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- 6y ago
I’m a lesbian too melony and it’s definitely hard to for me to understand too. Coming out was difficult but I’m so proud to be gay! I’d definitely like to hear from people who struggle with HOCD to gain more perspective.
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- 6y ago
@nlnnoaia that was well explained. It’s interesting to hear what others go through. I think I have a better understanding. Thank you!
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- 6y ago
I have HOCD myself, and I can see your point, I’ve questioned myself during HOCD about whether I’m just homophobic but I doubt it. Before the HOCD took hold, I had a friend who came out as bi on Facebook and I was one of the first people to congratulate him, and I was genuinely happy for him. When HOCD strikes it leaves you questioning your integrity as a person, much like POCD which I also had before. I had never thought about the possibility of me being gay until a few months ago, (I’m 19 now btw), when something or other triggered me to begin having these thoughts, (which I tried to disprove and then ruminated on and the whole ocd cycle started). I could be gay for all I know, and it’s not that I dislike gay people for being gay, more that I am confused and exasperated as to whether I have been lying to myself all these years, and whether I was gay from the start. You start analysing your previous thoughts and making connections, e.g. maybe because I’m more of a creative individual, I must have been gay and not known it all these years, or, maybe the fact that I haven’t been in a relationship yet means I must be gay. Then you try to disprove it based on other past experiences, e.g. I’ve only ever been sexually attracted to women so I can’t have been gay, or, I’ve been in a boys school my whole life and never thought about having sex with a boy so I can’t have been gay. This helps for a few minutes but then the questioning begins over and over again. I can’t judge what you went through when you decided to come out as lesbian and the process of figuring out your sexuality, but from the sounds of it, you are happy with who you are attracted to, and would have liked the thoughts and feelings you had for women (even if you may have berated yourself for them after you had them, when you were discovering your sexuality?) The thoughts of having sex with a man (or women if you are a woman) for HOCD sufferers to do not cause pleasure, although after battling with OCD for a long period of time, you can become somewhat desensitised or even become aroused when you don’t want it, as was the case for POCD. The majority of the population also gets the same thoughts as us OCD sufferers, but they react in a different way, without questioning them. OCD is based on the brain’s uncontrollable desire to be certain, which is how the questioning, e.g. “why did I have that thought?” starts. This is why treatment for any kind of OCD aims not to reassure the sufferer, but to make the comfortable with being uncertain. I could be gay/bisexual, I could be sexually attracted to men/wish to engage in a relationship with a man but the treatment aims to make me comfortable with the possibility that it could be true. It may help for you to actually think about OCD overall, rather than just so called HOCD if it’s easier for you to understand. Any OCD is based on uncertainty, for example, the more well known and stereotyped germ OCD. In order to be able to manage their OCD, people must accept that they may be exposed to a deadly disease from touching a surface without washing their hands, but (when treated so they can manage their symptoms) they can function normally and not need to wash their hands, even when they can’t be certain. Back to HOCD: I or any other HOCD sufferer may indeed be gay, the treatment does not aim to disprove that, it aims to help you function normally and stop doubting yourself to the point where it becomes debilitating. I hope this helps.
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- 6y ago
I feel like some of it may be internalised homophobia
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- 6y ago
I should also mention that this is not exclusively for heterosexuals. While straight people make up the majority of cases, this can also happen to gay/lesbian people who obsess that they might be straight, such as in this case: https://www.ocdaction.org.uk/forum/ocd-and-intrusive-thoughts/heterosexual-ocd
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- 6y ago
Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, it’s nice to get some clarity! Either way, we’re all in this together and it never hurts to understand each other better :). Much love ❤️.
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That’s what I am wondering.
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- 6y ago
Well said! I am super proud as well.
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- 6y ago
Yes, it is homophobic. That's why it's so scary to people who have it. This can happen in families who are truly pro LGBTQ
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- 6y ago
It certainly does, thank you
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- 25w ago
I just want to know the difference of someone who is gay vs someone who is just questioning bc of ocd. Like would you hear I’m gay im gay over and over and over again in your head but it didn’t feel right? But when I say this is a waste of my time im of course straight it feels like im lying but I know im not attracted to women at all I am certain of that. But picking a label is what i can’t settle on so this is my ocd or not
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Ok so I’m a 17 year old female, and I’ve always thought I was straight. But I just really want to know how you would know the difference between so-ocd and actually questioning your sexuality. I have nothing against the LGBTQ community (in fact I am very much a token straight friend, lol) but I saw a video about comp-het recently and it sort of felt like what I was experiencing. I don’t want to be gay, I want to be with men, I want to like men, I’ve always liked men, but now I’m questioning whether or not that’s real? Because people can be gay but not want to be right? I’m single and I always have been. I think women are gorgeous, but when I try to imagine actually having any sort of romantic or sexual relationship with a woman it feels wrong, at least most of the time it does? Sometimes I’m less sure, and I’ve never been particularly boy crazy. I’ve liked maybe 2 or 3 people in my life, (not to say I’ve never found other guys attractive, but it doesn’t seem to be as often as most people) I have no particular reason to be afraid of being gay, very supportive family, safe area ect, but I don’t want to be, does that mean this is ocd, I don’t know what’s going on every time I say I’m straight I feel like I’m lying, but that might just be because I think about it so much. The idea of being with a woman doesn’t feel like something I would want, but is that just because I don’t want to want it? People online say things with so much sureness, if you feel like this it means this. Ect.
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- 4w ago
Sorry long post. Anyone feel like now they’re just in extreme denial. Like when I was little I noticed guys more than girls in movies and was more drawn to them. I remember changing my mindset to switch that. 98%of my life has been straight until recently. I felt drawn to some guys but never thought of it sexually. Always had girl crushes dreams and porn. Now I watch porn and I feel like straight takes longer and then I go and watch gay porn and feel nothing until I tell myself it’s two attractive dudes and love is love and imagine physical sensations and then it hits like suddenly. Like I have to convince myself it’s alright. Then when I try again I can do all that but feel nothing and then straight porn works. Idk if it’s just getting a fix or the first time works with anything or what but it’s confusing. On top of that I’ve felt girl relationships including my wife maybe miss something and a guy maybe matches that feeling that but then I feel like I’d be missing something without a girl or my wife. Idk I’ve had some rough times in life with male figures in my life but idk. I feel like I have to convince myself more and more that I’m straight even more than the first time I dealt with this. Can someone relate? Please
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