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As someone who is suffering from POCD which shows some similar symptoms to HOCD, I can tell you that the last sentence is quite triggering and far from the truth. I think there are many reasons people are afraid of being homosexual and it doesn’t directly have to do something with homophobia. Maybe someone who’s been in a relationship with someone from the opposite gender for quite a long time suddenly has the fear of being gay and therefor is afraid of not being able to live their relationship like they used to do. Or someone who believes it‘s a sin develops such a fear. Of course homosexuality should be nothing to fear but sometimes the circumstances are the reason they develop the fear. For e.g. having a family and suddenly questioning your sexuality and kinda your identity is a distress for those people. I believe that homosexuality is equally to heterosexuality but I also understand that believing this and thinking about being homosexual yourself even tho you once was convinced you weren’t is a huge difference. It’s quite hard to explain but I think it has less to do with homophobia and more to do with ones self-perception. Still, some cases might be linked to homophobia but definitely not every case. And no, people who are suffering from this are not in denial. They are afraid they might be and that’s a huge difference. But again, it’s quite hard to explain. Nevertheless I understand that HOCD might offend you but believe me most of the people suffering from it don’t want to offend you at all. It’s just not something they are in control of. We still have to remember that it’s an illness, no matter what topic OCD chose to make you suffer from. I just wish everyone the best and hope they’re getting better, because this illness is an asshole.
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I’m a lesbian too melony and it’s definitely hard to for me to understand too. Coming out was difficult but I’m so proud to be gay! I’d definitely like to hear from people who struggle with HOCD to gain more perspective.
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@nlnnoaia that was well explained. It’s interesting to hear what others go through. I think I have a better understanding. Thank you!
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I have HOCD myself, and I can see your point, I’ve questioned myself during HOCD about whether I’m just homophobic but I doubt it. Before the HOCD took hold, I had a friend who came out as bi on Facebook and I was one of the first people to congratulate him, and I was genuinely happy for him. When HOCD strikes it leaves you questioning your integrity as a person, much like POCD which I also had before. I had never thought about the possibility of me being gay until a few months ago, (I’m 19 now btw), when something or other triggered me to begin having these thoughts, (which I tried to disprove and then ruminated on and the whole ocd cycle started). I could be gay for all I know, and it’s not that I dislike gay people for being gay, more that I am confused and exasperated as to whether I have been lying to myself all these years, and whether I was gay from the start. You start analysing your previous thoughts and making connections, e.g. maybe because I’m more of a creative individual, I must have been gay and not known it all these years, or, maybe the fact that I haven’t been in a relationship yet means I must be gay. Then you try to disprove it based on other past experiences, e.g. I’ve only ever been sexually attracted to women so I can’t have been gay, or, I’ve been in a boys school my whole life and never thought about having sex with a boy so I can’t have been gay. This helps for a few minutes but then the questioning begins over and over again. I can’t judge what you went through when you decided to come out as lesbian and the process of figuring out your sexuality, but from the sounds of it, you are happy with who you are attracted to, and would have liked the thoughts and feelings you had for women (even if you may have berated yourself for them after you had them, when you were discovering your sexuality?) The thoughts of having sex with a man (or women if you are a woman) for HOCD sufferers to do not cause pleasure, although after battling with OCD for a long period of time, you can become somewhat desensitised or even become aroused when you don’t want it, as was the case for POCD. The majority of the population also gets the same thoughts as us OCD sufferers, but they react in a different way, without questioning them. OCD is based on the brain’s uncontrollable desire to be certain, which is how the questioning, e.g. “why did I have that thought?” starts. This is why treatment for any kind of OCD aims not to reassure the sufferer, but to make the comfortable with being uncertain. I could be gay/bisexual, I could be sexually attracted to men/wish to engage in a relationship with a man but the treatment aims to make me comfortable with the possibility that it could be true. It may help for you to actually think about OCD overall, rather than just so called HOCD if it’s easier for you to understand. Any OCD is based on uncertainty, for example, the more well known and stereotyped germ OCD. In order to be able to manage their OCD, people must accept that they may be exposed to a deadly disease from touching a surface without washing their hands, but (when treated so they can manage their symptoms) they can function normally and not need to wash their hands, even when they can’t be certain. Back to HOCD: I or any other HOCD sufferer may indeed be gay, the treatment does not aim to disprove that, it aims to help you function normally and stop doubting yourself to the point where it becomes debilitating. I hope this helps.
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I should also mention that this is not exclusively for heterosexuals. While straight people make up the majority of cases, this can also happen to gay/lesbian people who obsess that they might be straight, such as in this case: https://www.ocdaction.org.uk/forum/ocd-and-intrusive-thoughts/heterosexual-ocd
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I feel like some of it may be internalised homophobia
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Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, it’s nice to get some clarity! Either way, we’re all in this together and it never hurts to understand each other better :). Much love ❤️.
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That’s what I am wondering.
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Well said! I am super proud as well.
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Yes, it is homophobic. That's why it's so scary to people who have it. This can happen in families who are truly pro LGBTQ
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It certainly does, thank you
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If you truly aren''t homophobic you wouldn't be afraid of being gay unless in very specific cases of bisexual cycling, what is the difference?
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I’ve been struggling with HOCD for years, and it started with an intrusive thought about being gay when I was younger. It came up at age 12 and ever since, I’ve been trapped in a cycle of doubt and anxiety. I obsess over whether or not I’m secretly gay, even though I don’t feel that way at all. What makes it worse is the fear that I might have internalized homophobia, and that’s why I’m having these obsessive thoughts. I worry that my anxiety is a sign that I’m repressing something or rejecting part of myself. It feels like my mind keeps repeating the same question—am I gay?—and no matter how much reassurance I get, the fear doesn’t go away. I used to pray for my family members, fearing that if I didn’t, something bad would happen to them, and now it feels like I have to control these thoughts, or something will go wrong. For a while, it was quieter, but a week ago, the thoughts spiraled up again, and now the anxiety feels overwhelming again. It’s exhausting, and I don’t know how to break free from this constant loop of doubt. Has anyone dealt with the fear of internalized homophobia alongside HOCD? How do you manage the anxiety that comes with it?
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I really need help understanding what I’m going through. For a long time now, I’ve been struggling with thoughts and feelings about women that confuse and scare me. Sometimes I feel this strange emotional or mental ‘pull’ toward certain women — it’s not exactly sexual, and not clearly romantic either, but it feels like something, and it triggers deep anxiety. When I see a beautiful woman or a WLW (woman-loving-woman) couple, I feel something that I can’t explain — sometimes I think it’s just admiration or aesthetic appreciation, but OCD keeps telling me: “You felt something, so you must be gay,” or “You’re hiding something.” I get stuck in endless loops, trying to analyze these moments and label them. Even when I feel physical or emotional reactions, they don’t feel natural or aligned with who I am. They feel like a reaction to the idea of women, not real attraction. I try to be honest with myself — I even told a friend I might be bisexual at some point, just to test if that felt more comfortable. But it didn’t. It made things worse, and I felt like I lost touch with who I am. I don’t want to lie to myself or live in denial, but I’m exhausted. It feels like I’m being mentally forced to feel something that isn’t mine. I’m 14, and I understand that things might still be developing, but I can’t help feeling like I’ve always been drawn to men, and never naturally wanted women that way. Still, I keep doubting everything. Is this real attraction or OCD feeding false feelings and thoughts? Can OCD create emotional or mental sensations that feel like desire? I’m so scared that I’ll lose myself, or find out something I never wanted. I just want peace and to feel like myself again.
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