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- sillygoose1012
- Date posted
- 3y ago
Wouldnt make sense for professionals make up soocd, because the treatment is to expose yourself to the situation and accept the possibility of the thought. That wouldn’t make a person more in denial. Also, gay people have soocd. So what would be the professionals main objective? To turn in the closet straight people into gay people and in the closet gay people into straight people ? Sounds like a weird and pointless treatment. Why would real pedophiles be trained to not be around children by the same professionals, and trained to be around children with people with ocd? You see the distorted logic that ocd creates? They know these subs types because they have conducted research that has shown consistent patterns through all ocd subtypes. A thought or feeling comes up, regardless of the theme, and then a feeling or thought comes after. The thought gets stuck, and the person tries to get rid of it through rituals either mental or physical. The thoughts get stuck because the mind has learned the thought to be a threat, and so it continues to solve the “problem.” But the problem can’t be solved, and so the relief the person seeks is by doing rituals. But studies show that when a person does not give in to compulsions, the fear is not reinforced. They have also noticed that people have different themes and sub types depending on the things they focus and fear the most. Soocd usually happens to people who value and are attached to their sexuality identity. ROCD are people who tend to value the idea of having a great relationship and are afraid of being trapped and stuck in a relationship that isn’t the one they want. So all ocd people face the same problem, they are afraid of something and they are looking for certainty. And so there minds gets stuck because there is none
Very well put.
That totally makes sense and that's very well put. It's definitely me overthinking about the complexity of ocd. It's like how is this real??? Almost like it doesn't seem like it could be a real mental disorder. But obviously it is lol. And when i typed that, it was definitely a raving thought that was not rational whatsoever. I appreciate you typing all that!
I relate to these thoughts, it’s awful
i guess they know because the same tools (ERP for instance) can help with recovery and the nature of that recovery is: when people stop worrying about being x sexual orientation and the symptoms that led them to believe they might be lose their significance, the symptoms go away or are revealed to be normal behaviors for people not of x sexual orientation. you would assume that, when people accept that they may be x sexuality they would begin to exhibit more essential traits of that sexuality, but recovery from OCD works the opposite way.
and i should be clear what i mean by “essential traits.” i mean the symptoms of attraction, e.g. groinal responses, and not stereotypical traits of individuals with that sexual orientation.
@CaptainKierkegaard Also, I don’t know what the data says on this, but it seems like people who have had SOOCD have had this experience. I could be wrong.
I need to know if someone else experience this because I think this may be the root of some of my ocd themes. So basically even when I don't really have a theme going on I get intrusive thoughts of different topics. For example if I'm reading an article about a person with ADHD my mind tells that maybe I have adhd and because if I had I'd be different, and it feels like I want to even though I don't do because I know how destressing it is to live with such disorders and who would ever want to develop a disorder like that. I get intrusive thoughts like about illnesses, identities and other things and my mind says that I have to have those things because they would make me different and my mind wanted me to be different in that way. And it felt like I wanted those things even tho I know how terrible they affect people and didn't really wanted to have them. Now it tells me the same thing about gender and sexuality that I have to be different in that way while I don't and it's causing me hocd right now. I guess this is my final answer but I wanted to know if somebody else experienced something like this. Like sometimes I get depressive episodes because of my anxiety and ocd but once I became obsessed with the idea of having chronic severe depression and I got so anxious but then felt relieved when I didn't but then my intrusive thoughts would pop up here and there
i just has a thought that i would like to share... i think that a lot of teens could be going through HOCD in this day and age because there is so much about the LGBTQ community in the media (not like that’s a bad thing btw) back in the day, like maybe the 90s, HOCD was categorised as “fear of being gay” not “fear of being bi” i think a lot of us teens have a fear of being bi because that is seen as a valid sexuality but back in the day i don’t think it was. it was either all or nothing. being gay used to be seen as such a taboo so back then if you were to tell anyone you were getting intrusive thoughts about being gay it would be seen as ghastly and horrible. but now you tell someone who doesn’t get the nature of Pure O and they’d say “oMg iTs 2020 aCcEpT yOuRsElF, gEt WiTh ThE tImEs” which makes it harder for us teens to get through this. i also had a thought that depending on whether you’re a girl or guy, HOCD is difficult in different ways most straight girls watch lesbian porn cus it focuses on female pleasure - HOCD manipulates that i’ve seen tweets saying shit like “how are women even straight have you see a woman naked?” - like sis....really? i’ve seen articles saying women are never straight either bi or lesbian- ....anyways.... - being a straight girl going through HOCD, seeing all that is difficult and not only this but HOCD is focused heavily on straight men and it really pisses me off. all the books i’ve real on HOCD all talk about men specifically and their groinal responses and it’s like...what about me? for guys: the groinal response is more noticeable that’s the biggest struggle i could think of for guys since i don’t know what you guys go through exactly i’ve been told by people that i give of a bisexual vibe because i’m quirky....i literally don’t even know at this point, i could breathe and someone would be like “oMg YoUrE sO bIsExUaL” (ง'̀-'́)ง i kinda want HOCD to be spoken about more cus i feel like it’s one of those OCD subcategories that aren’t really deemed as that important since being gay isn’t a taboo anymore. i feel this way too with ROCD these have just been my thoughts, agree or not idc i just wanted to express my feelings ( ˘ ³˘)♥
How detailed can thoughts be? Can it make you question if it even is OCD or just denial? I have talked to friends and therapist in the past and they have said based on everything you've told me you aren't what you think you are. And it felt like a weight had been lifted. But doubt creeps up saying "you are a pedophile, you are just in denial!" And that feeling comes in my gut followed by intense anxiety. I've heard OCD can make you question who you are as a person and I think that's what is happening now. I'll get a thought like "even if you are one, its not that bad" the I think but I don't feel like one and I've talked about this with mental health professionals in the past and they have agreed based on everything I've told them, then my mind claps back with but what if you are? It is a back and forth I get so exhausted having. I know I have to be ok with never knowing but it is hard to not want an answer because of the fear you may become your thoughts one day.
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