- Date posted
- 2y ago
I can’t
I can’t differentiate my obsessions from rumination from compulsions I’m going insane
I can’t differentiate my obsessions from rumination from compulsions I’m going insane
It's okay, take them in order, first there's the obsession and after that there's the compulsion. The compulsion is the response to a certain obsession. (ie. You feel like you are still contaminated after washing your hands so you wash them again, the obsession is the contamination while the compulsion would be washing your hands). Ofc, there's times where the compulsion is not so visible like a mental compulsion. It's definitely hard for me too, I sometimes think I'm actually avoiding doing a compulsion and then realise I actually did a compulsion instead of avoiding one. It can get tough and it takes time, don't beat yourself up too much about it and don't try and figure it out all the time, eventually it gets repetitive and you kinda see what the compulsion actually.
....actually is.
You aren't alone. I think the problem there is trying to differentiate them; that would be rumination. if it feels like you urgently have to solve this and need an answer, it is OCD. I know it is so hard, but you will get through this
Obsession➡️something you fear, a situation you think that might've happened or will happen, or it can be anything you fear. For example, obsession with the fear of harming someone, or the fear of dying. Rumination ➡️ is the analysis you do when you have an obsession. Did I hurt them? Will I die? Did I wash my hands correctly? Oh no I didn't clean with chlorine so something wrong will happen" all those thoughts count as rumination, they are analysis revolving your fears. Compulsion➡️ action you do to calm the fear of your obsession being true, or to calm the anxiety while ruminating. These actions are to reassure the anxiety immediately and the calm is short term, just like the joy after eating sugar, so, it is addictive and repetitive, like asking things you already know, checking things you already checked, or, making these actions for the first time but knowing you want an instant anxiety relief. Hope this helps
For me, almost any thought that comes after the initial thought is rumination and is too much attention towards the original thought. The original thought happens in a split second.
Rumination is a type of compulsion. Say moral questioning. You got a thought in your head, you might have a straight away answer. For me, I don’t. I doubt. So it makes me think. And think. Which is ruminating. I want to know the answer (the anxiety) so I ruminate (the compulsion) to try to figure it out.
Like for my the intrusive thoughts are always there so I don’t know when the rumination begins. They are so similar to me in my mind
@YaBoio Hmmm, I see. With intrusive thoughts, they tend to be more about things you don’t want to happen like hurting someone. So you ruminate to figure it out if you will. You might think ithe rumination is intrusive but it just your mind doing compulsions (ruminating) by habit. I know it sounds tricky
Like the rumination is intrusive itself
I have sometimes found myself deep in rumination without realizing what the obsession was that started it. Periodically, I like to ask "is there a 'what if' that is driving what I am currently thinking about?" If I can answer this question with a yes then I can identify the obsession: e.g. "what if I did something wrong/touched something dirty/hurt someone/etc." Then I find that it becomes clearer that I was in fact ruminating, and the cause of the rumination was to answer the obsession.
That’s kinda my question. All my thoughts feel so realistic and so now I doubt if they are ocd and if I just can’t make my mind up about something and I’m using ocd as an excuse or something idc I feel like this post is word vomit.
Two things are happening: I get thoughts that just keep looping. They almost feel like song stuck in my head. Also, I’ll imagine something and I feel my stomach drop. Then as the seconds go by I keep getting fragments of the this thought but with different details. For example, it’s kinda like how a “vision” is portrayed. I’ll get a glimpse of the thought and then it’ll rapidly expand into something worse every few seconds. I don’t know if I’m causing this or if it’s just an automatic thing like any other intrusive thought. It feels unavoidable, idk if this is a compulsion or if it’s just another manifestation of an intrusive thought. Apart from that remembering an intrusive thought triggers the full thought again and then it just keeps looping or expanding. I don’t know how to stop any of this. Help?
I cannot for the life of me stop ruminating or checking how I feel about thoughts or focusing on thoughts or creating more thoughts. I feel like I’m losing my mind. I want to scream. I try not to ruminate about the thoughts, but trying not to just makes me think about them more. I try not to check, but somehow, I still check. I want to let a thought sit in the background, but the more I try not to focus on it, the more I end up focusing on it. I don’t want the thought to expand because that feels like engaging with it, but I can’t just stop it from expanding. It feels impossible. People keep saying I’m in control of my compulsions, and maybe that’s true for the physical ones. But when it comes to the mental compulsions, I swear I have no control. It feels like I’m missing something that everyone else seems to have, like there’s some tool they’re using that I don’t have. Controlling mental compulsions has never felt possible for me. I’m starting to fear them. And every time someone says I’m in control and can just choose not to do them, I end up beating myself up even more when they happen. Or when I *choose* I guess. I don’t know anymore. If this is my fault, if I’m responsible for this, then what does that make me? I feel like a monster. I am at my wits’ end. How am I supposed to control mental compulsions when it feels like they control me? I freak out when they happen. They don’t bring me relief, they just make me panic. I want it to stop so bad.
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