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- Dre83
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It’s all good everyone. Thank you all for your input I greatly appreciate it for sure. We are here for each other.
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You bet! Best of luck! I hope the supplements help you
It doesn’t help with OCD. It’s an anti anxiety medication. Your doctor should tell you that it will only help with your anxiety. OCD medication is SSRIs
But ssri are anti anxiety medication too. Well mostly for depression but have been known to help with anxiety
@Dre83 No SSRI is a antidepressants that is used to treat anxiety, panic disorders, ocd, etc
@Dre83 Lol I promise I’m not lying to you I take it and it doesn’t help my Severe anxiety at all nor the OCD. And my therapist and psychiatrist told me it wouldn’t help OCD at all and bc of how bad my anxiety is it would probably just take the edge off but there’s not many other options outside of SSRIs
@Justmesadly Ah ok. My anxiety isn’t real bad but it is there at times. My thoughts are still prevalent and I either have more intrusive thoughts than I use to or I’m noticing them more. I know it’s because of the ocd but I just want them to lessen so badly. I don’t even remember what I use to think before ocd haha. Hasn’t been a year yet since my diagnosis
@Dre83 I was gonna say apparently anxiety and depression cause bad intrusive thoughts too but if you’re diagnosed with OCD then it’s probably the OCD. If your anxiety isn’t bad I honestly wouldn’t worry about taking buspar because that’s what it’s for
@Justmesadly I hope it’s the ocd I’ve never had such thoughts in my life. Harm ocd it sucks
I know I'm not a doctor so take what I say with a grain of salt but I see no difference between doing compulsions everyday and taking anti-anxiety medication. Same difference. For me it's better to forget about the medication piece and just focus on the behavioral piece that actually get you better. In my opinion taking anxiety meds for OCD is like taking insulin and not changing your diet if you're a diabetic. I mean if you need medication and ssris or anxiety medications help then go ahead but it's the lifestyle piece that will make you feel better ultimately. For me ssris to not work and anti-anxiety medications just make me too tired to do the compulsion then when it stops working you're right back where you started. I have found that doing things like avoiding coffee or drinking enough water or taking some supplements that are good for brain health can help because you don't have the residual effects on your mind that deficiencies can cause. But that being said I have to do this on a non-contingent basis otherwise it becomes a compulsion. All my experience taking SSRI and anxiety medication just proves to me that they are of no use to me. I don't even entertain the idea. That being said everyone is different and for some people but ssris can help
For sure personal preference. I took SSRIs for years. I had almost no anxiety and almost no OCD while taking them! It was heaven. But I felt like a robot so kind of like you said I decided to try and work on the techniques and fixing myself with therapt instead which hasn’t helped at all and now I’m 10x worse but hey I’m stubborn so I’ll continue to suffer lol
Yeah I like the supplements route better myself. I took Ativan over the summer but only when I needed too. Do you have any supplements that you noticed helped you. Like I said in my other comment I just want the dark thoughts to go away or at least diminish some. They are alive every day and i don’t think I have many compulsions if anything rumination and asking questions to myself which I think is rumination.
@Justmesadly Awe that sucks I’m sorry to hear that gotten bad.
@Justmesadly Yeah we all have different experiences I think. I had a great experience with therapy and it really helped me but I am relapsing into it so I don't know if I just wasn't keeping up with it. I struggle with identifying my compulsions when their mental. I guess it's whatever works for you. If ssris work I probably would have never tried therapy all they do is make me angry
I would definitely run this by your psychiatrist especially if you're taking something because supplements can interact with other drugs and just because they're over-the-counter doesn't mean they're automatically safe. That being said a group of supplements called adaptogens may work. I found one through trial and error that works for me. There's some studies out there about inositol that are promising. For me it helps with my pcos more than the OCD I believe. There's also simple things like fish oil that could work alongside of medication plus it's good for the heart. I prefer supplements that I take on regular intervals rather than as needed because as needed can become a compulsion. Meditation has been a huge help but it can be a double-edged sword for mental compulsions. So I work on setting limits and moving on even if I feel like I didn't do it right. I'm a bit of a white light Junkie. I love to cleanse my aura with light light. But I have to look at the reason I'm doing it. If I'm cleansing my aura because I'm afraid that maybe I am going to hell if I don't then I have to stop.
Yeah I’m not taking medication as I don’t wanna take ssri’s. I’m on inositol but it doesn’t seem to stop the frequency of the thoughts as they seem to freaking hound me daily. I’m also not seeing a psychiatrist just a therapist. I will look into adaptogens. Thanks for your feed back
@Dre83 Oh thought u might be since u asked. It's good to check in with a doctor about supplements. It took me a while to find the right adaptogen
@ncamp816 Are most doctors knowledgeable on supplements or do I need to see a special doctor I’m not seeing a psychiatrist
@Dre83 A psychiatrist is the best doctor for any medication for ocd or anxiety. No one else knows anything ! So dangerous to see a GP for a very specialized drug
@Dre83 I don't blame u. I'm not going to a psychiatrist either
@Justmesadly I agree if ur going to go on psychiatric medication best to go to a specialist. But I am not a medication fan.
So see a psychiatrist for supplements as well?
No you just google
@Justmesadly Ah ok haha
@Dre83 and it’s hit or miss and in case no one has told you, it takes a hot minute for supplements to kick in. And always start with one not like 5 at a time. And I’d research what mg to take based on your sex, weight etc and make sure it’s not a vitamin that you’re already getting a ton of from something you happen to eat everyday etc
@Justmesadly Ok will do. Yeah just like meditation gotta find what works for you. Has the supplement you’ve taken lessened the frequency of your thoughts or just the anxiety they cause?
@Dre83 I gave up on supplements bc I am currently struggling with money and I could never remember to take them lol. I take anti anxiety medication bc I hate medication and SSRI scared me after a couple years. But anti anxiety doesn’t do crap for me unfortunately
@Justmesadly In the us there are some stores where u can talk to people who know about supplements Reputable books you can read. It's good to talk to a GP if ur taking them.
@ncamp816 Supplements are literally vitamins... no need to go to the doctor just to ask about a vitamin you can just look it up yourself unless you just love going to the doctor
@Justmesadly Yeah I don’t trust ssri medication. I’ve read things from doctors who believe it is a nutrient imbalance we are missing that impacts ocd
@Dre83 For me supplements just keep the edge off. Although the ones that help with regulating hormones do help with stablizing moods.
@ncamp816 Which stores? Like vitamin shoppe? Also which books do you recommend?
@Dre83 That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard... doctors are fully aware of chemical imbalances that cause OCD, even have brain imagines of how different your brain looks based on mental illnesses.
@ncamp816 And that would be adaptogens?
@Justmesadly I think medicine can be subjective. I open to listening especially if they have evidence ya know
@Justmesadly Some supplements aren't just vitamins. So vitamins are things u need to intake through food etc to produce. Some Supplements are a wide range of things. Some ur body makes, which is the case of inositol. Some are herbal remedies and herbal can be drug like so u need to be more causous. Some vitamins are water soluble so u just pee it out if u have too much. This is like vitamins c. Others u can accidently take too much of. Multi vitamins or using as directed are usually safe from my experience. Because of this I personally like to be causous. Do a little research on it. Or ask advice of a professional if i can.
@Dre83 Usually they don't know much about it at vitamin shopp... Holly Hill (if any near u), has people who are knowledgable there. The website might be helpful I mean if not u can google notropics. Im trying to find the book I had that was good but can't remember the name. It was good because he kind of put out some info about supplements and how to be safe with it. But there are books out there about notropics.
@Dre83 I completely disagree, mental illness may show itself in a different way per person but inside your brain it’s the same...
@Justmesadly My problem is if they can see the mental illness on a brain scan... then they should be using brain scans as a diagnostic tool. I mean for physical illness they would. So if they can see it they should have people undergo the test. Then they will know ok, you have bipolar for example. Last information I have is that there is proof that some meds help some people but not that there is any way to see if someone needs the medication objectively. As for diet ect. It may not be the only cause but maybe a cause (just like imbalance may be a cause). I mean anxiety a symptom of mild dehydration or too much cafeen in the diet. It doesn't mean being hydrated or drinking less coffee cures me but it may help lessen my anxiety.
@Justmesadly I dissagree. Everyone's body has it's differences and everyone's body responds to illness different. I don't believe 2 people with the same disease progresses within the body the exact same way. There are bound to be subtle differences in the presentation and in the response to treatment.
@ncamp816 That’s literally what I just said but okay
@ncamp816 Your logic seems so off to me... it’s not healthy or good to have scans especially when you can describe your symptoms in an hour and for 1/4 the cost? And sure I can know I have a disease or cancer or a mental illness and it’s still my choice to take medication or not? What’s your point?
@Justmesadly Maybe I misunderstood you? My understanding of what you said was that there is a way to scan the brain and diagnose mental illness based on the scan of the brain. And what I'm saying is if that's true it should be done
@Justmesadly My understanding came from when you said inside the brain it's it's the same.
@ncamp816 Yea there is. It’s idiotic to do that when it cost thousands of dollars and months to wait for an appointment when you can go to a therapist or psychiatrist for 1/4 cost and talk for an hour and be diagnosed. As I said. Why go around your ass to go to your elbow ?
@ncamp816 Yep the imbalance!
@Justmesadly Wow. Chill out on the insults. Does this scan specify what mental illness someone has?
@ncamp816 Yes... and how did I insult you ... this conversation has gone in a circle for too long Lmao. I’m exhausted enough as it is
@Justmesadly I go around my ass to my elbow when I go to a therapist and spend years trying to get a diagnosis if I can just get a brain scan that will tell me what it is. That's all I'm saying
@ncamp816 That’s strange. I’m sorry to hear that. I’ve never heard someone go to the psychiatrist or therapist more than once for the diagnosis
@Justmesadly Misdiagnosis in the mental health field are rampid
@Justmesadly Yeah my wife has been diagnosed 3 different times so it I out there for sure. That’s why I said medicine is subjective to some sense. She finally has been told she has major depression. It’s sucked that she has had to go through many things to finally find the right diagnosis.
@Dre83 I mean so it’s out there*
@ncamp816 Oh 100%
@Dre83 You can also have more than one and things get missed I feel like
@Justmesadly Oh yeah she has anxiety too. Shits been crazy ride for sure but I love that woman to death
@Justmesadly So if tech and therapy can give a better dx, why not?
I don’t know if anyone wants to or can answer this but in what situation or what’s the reason some of you take antipsychotics for OCD? I’m just curious because I wonder if an SSRI will be enough for me lol
Does anyone have any good experiences with SSRIs for OCD?
What are everyone’s experiences using SSRIs for OCD? I’m not currently medicated and was curious if they actually help.
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